jesseriley wrote:
And trump’s buds at FakeBook are facing a $5 billion fine.
The proper way to do the fine is to force FacePlant to take the entire find out of stock holdings of the founders and top management. Otherwise, all share holders get to pay for transgressions of those people.
*fine
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Ok. I have answered this already a couple of times, but I would have thought this would be crystal clear to you even if I hadn't.
1) Mueller has spun off 14 investigations based on stuff he found on Trump while investigating the primary allegation. His work lives on in those investigations. There are three others too that we know of that didn't come from him.
2) Mueller made it crystal clear that he was punting obstruction to Congress and preserving all the info while "fresh" so that if others deem it necessary he can be indicted for obstruction when no longer in office.
Mueller's active work is over, but the ramifications of his work are still coming, hence HE is still coming.
Mueller is never the clown.
The clown is always of course our Orange President, Tiny, Spanky, Individual-1, whatever you want to call him.
Know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole - where do you stand now? The Mueller investigation brought no criminal charges or indictments against any of those close to Trump or even Trump himself. The House has pretty much already ruled out impeachment. It is already 2019 and the election is not too much more than a year away. Trump is here to stay. Unless the Dems can come up with a viable candidate he will win re-election. Can you handle him for 5 or actually almost 6 more years?
I am going to have to choose to be amused by you. Annoyance was never a choice because I don't get annoyed. Indifference or amused are the two options. For now I choose amused.
1) Criminal charges or indictments -- depends on who you consider close to Trump. You know who they are. I disagree with your definition of "close".
2) Mueller was handcuffed by the OLC regarding actually indicting a sitting President, so he didn't. He said plenty though and punted to Congress and mentioned how he could be indicted after he is out of office. Mueller did NOT have to say that, and as I said earlier, that was probably going a tad far if he wasn't just going to break the guideline and indict.
3) The House actually has NOT pretty much ruled out impeachment. They are investigating now for the sole purpose of determining if they want to. They aren't about to scream for impeachment (well some are) as a whole until they really can convince at least more than half of America that they should have.
4) Timing IS an issue as I have said many times. Impeachment isn't the end all be all. He is a criminal, and ultimately a legal punishment is probably worse for him, so I can be happy with that. Impeachment and conviction would be nice though because he really is a clear and present danger and should be removed as soon as possible by any legal means.
5) "Trump is here to stay?" That isn't a true statement even if he wins another term.
6) So far polls suggest you are incorrect that Trump will win again. WAY too far out to put ANY stock in the polls, and of course things were skewed last time with Russian help that doesn't show up in polls.
7) Not sure who the Democrat challenger will be, but all things on the up and up and no outrageously odd thing right at the end of the campaign cycle (Democrat dies or is convicted of murder or some weird thing like that) or criminal behavior or space aliens making us vote for Trump, he will not win a second term.
Whether a bad person like Trump affects your life or not, it is right to stand up for justice. He is SO criminal and has such little either understanding or respect for how things are to be done in Washington that he would likely get himself in new hot water if he had 4 more years.
Mueller is still coming. Don't kid yourself that he isn't.
The clown is done.
+1 wrote:
'specially wrote:
Especially when they DO NOT support your Orange God.
+1
Except of course that I despise Trump as one of the worst human beings on the planet and clearly the worst president in history. So, there is that. A bit inconvenient for your little narrative, no?
P wrote:
+1 wrote:
+1
Except of course that I despise Trump as one of the worst human beings on the planet and clearly the worst president in history. So, there is that. A bit inconvenient for your little narrative, no?
It looks like you are rather butthurt that your narrative was shot down as well.
There’s no crystal ball, but trump has proven a master at making enemies.
Your narrative wrote:
P wrote:
Except of course that I despise Trump as one of the worst human beings on the planet and clearly the worst president in history. So, there is that. A bit inconvenient for your little narrative, no?
It looks like you are rather butthurt that your narrative was shot down as well.
Your post makes zero sense. Care to try again - in English this time?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
You and Sally ignoring this then?
https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/440518-biden-leads-trump-by-8-points-in-hypothetical-2020-matchup-pollTrump has zero chance .
Alan
Yes, talking about today's polls are irrelevant. Creepy Uncle Joe will NEVER be Potus. Your zero percent comment is very Flagpolian- which means you will flop too.
Are you finally going to vote next year?
KAG2020
Creepy Joe has no chance but is up 8pts and the touchy feely stuff is pretty fresh news?
Yep I’m voting. You can thank Trump for that.
Alan
P wrote:
Your narrative wrote:
It looks like you are rather butthurt that your narrative was shot down as well.
Your post makes zero sense. Care to try again - in English this time?
Take your head out of your ass and read it again.
Done after the 2024 election?
Flagpole wrote:
Mueller is still coming. Don't kid yourself that he isn't.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole - where do you stand now? The Mueller investigation brought no criminal charges or indictments against any of those close to Trump or even Trump himself. The House has pretty much already ruled out impeachment. It is already 2019 and the election is not too much more than a year away. Trump is here to stay. Unless the Dems can come up with a viable candidate he will win re-election. Can you handle him for 5 or actually almost 6 more years?
I am going to have to choose to be amused by you. Annoyance was never a choice because I don't get annoyed. Indifference or amused are the two options. For now I choose amused.
1) Criminal charges or indictments -- depends on who you consider close to Trump. You know who they are. I disagree with your definition of "close".
2) Mueller was handcuffed by the OLC regarding actually indicting a sitting President, so he didn't. He said plenty though and punted to Congress and mentioned how he could be indicted after he is out of office. Mueller did NOT have to say that, and as I said earlier, that was probably going a tad far if he wasn't just going to break the guideline and indict.
3) The House actually has NOT pretty much ruled out impeachment. They are investigating now for the sole purpose of determining if they want to. They aren't about to scream for impeachment (well some are) as a whole until they really can convince at least more than half of America that they should have.
4) Timing IS an issue as I have said many times. Impeachment isn't the end all be all. He is a criminal, and ultimately a legal punishment is probably worse for him, so I can be happy with that. Impeachment and conviction would be nice though because he really is a clear and present danger and should be removed as soon as possible by any legal means.
5) "Trump is here to stay?" That isn't a true statement even if he wins another term.
6) So far polls suggest you are incorrect that Trump will win again. WAY too far out to put ANY stock in the polls, and of course things were skewed last time with Russian help that doesn't show up in polls.
7) Not sure who the Democrat challenger will be, but all things on the up and up and no outrageously odd thing right at the end of the campaign cycle (Democrat dies or is convicted of murder or some weird thing like that) or criminal behavior or space aliens making us vote for Trump, he will not win a second term.
Whether a bad person like Trump affects your life or not, it is right to stand up for justice. He is SO criminal and has such little either understanding or respect for how things are to be done in Washington that he would likely get himself in new hot water if he had 4 more years.
Mueller is still coming. Don't kid yourself that he isn't.
The clown is done.
I'm bored and need some entertainment so I'll bite on this conspiracy theory.
#6 - How does "Russia help" not show up in polls.
re; Biden
My biggest short term interest is how his candidacy plays out in the arena. The reporters love Pete and Warren...they get those people. Rich white people with lots of ideas and who speak well. but that's just not a huge part of the democratic party.
Biden is old and moderate and not surprising. Reporters and pundits don't much like that. But that is a very large portion of the dem and indie electorate. And maybe even some Rs. So Biden will probably poll higher than the reporters understand.
Will be interesting.
Sally Vix wrote:
The Mueller investigation brought no criminal charges or indictments against any of those close to Trump or even Trump himself.
Did you write that just so we would point out that Trump's campaign manager Manafort, his personal attorney Cohen and his associate and adviser Roger Stone all have faced criminal charges and at least two are going to jail because of the Mueller investigation?
And there are still 12 additional undisclosed criminal referrals from the report.
And ongoing trials that have not been decided.
Also, Trump's refusal to cooperate with subpoenas is an impeachable offense.
Nixon was not impeached but they did write up articles of impeachment. He resigned before the vote.
http://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachmentTrump has done many of these things.
Look at article 3.
"in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives"
There is precedent to impeach right now.
And it has to be now.
I don't believe it would be prudent to do it in 2020 and if it's not done before summer, it will creep into 2020.
Your narrative wrote:
P wrote:
Your post makes zero sense. Care to try again - in English this time?
Take your head out of your ass and read it again.
English, please.
Trump is a f*cktard. So are people who support him. They can all go f*ck their sisters in Appalachia while chugging Mountain Dew and listening to country music with their camo trucker hats on.
SumpDucksTricks wrote:
Trump is a f*cktard. So are people who support him. They can all go f*ck their sisters in Appalachia while chugging Mountain Dew and listening to country music with their camo trucker hats on.
Whadup Flaggy.
Lindsey Graham thinks Trump's actions deserve impeachment
Democrats are disgusting pieces of trash!!!!
Ha ha, “GOP in 2020, Vote for cowards!”
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article229629454.htmlDemocrats are disgusting pieces of trash!!!!
It’s Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.