L L wrote:
They need to impeach him and make him testify.
Expect Trump to declare a National Emergency in that case.
L L wrote:
They need to impeach him and make him testify.
Expect Trump to declare a National Emergency in that case.
This is ridiculous.
Mueller terminated his membership at Trump's Virginia golf club in 2011.
Mueller asked if he was entitled to a partial refund of the initial membership fee.
The golf responded in 2011 that he was placed on a waitlist to be refunded on a first resigned / first refunded basis.
The golf never contacted Mueller again. In others words, he got stiffed by Trump.
Mueller was appointed to conducted his investigation in 2017.
Trump screamed that Mueller was not qualified to investigate him because he had a conflict of interest. The conflicted was that Trump refused to refund him any membership money.
Trump claimed that Mueller had a long time dispute about the membership fees. Other than asking if he was entitled to a partial refund, Mueller had no dispute at all.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/mueller-trump-golf-club/index.html
Why impeach, when investigating is so much fun and so productive, ha ha. Looking for crimes that trump’s committed must be one of the world’s easiest jobs.
Trumpers must have gotten tired, having to defend all day! Don’t forget to check out mainstream media! They actually covered the Mueller Report, then you won’t need us to tell you what it says.
Make America Great Again wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
The House will take this on. He's not out of the woods on obstruction.
endeavor to obstruct justice
There is no way 20 Republican Senators agree with them. Any attempt at impeachment will blow up in their faces, just like it did with impeachment of Clinton.
Yeah, the Dems would be wise to investigate but not attempt to impeach. I think their best strategy would be to leave a wounded and hamstrung DJT in place.
Well, that, plus Pence would be *terrible* for the country.
Does he shower wrote:
“Prosecutors have one job, and that’s to prosecute and indict,” Meadows said.. “And if Bob Mueller in two-and-a-half years of investigation — which includes both the FBI and special prosecutor’s time — doesn’t bring charges, I don’t know how much longer we need to be talking about collusion and obstruction.”
Well THAT is certainly disingenuous--and, given that Meadows knows better, it's a simple lie.
It is settled DOJ policy that a sitting president *cannot* be indicted. So Mueller *could not* "bring charges."
Meadows is simply a liar.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
exwives wrote:
Remember Trump's ex-wives, and women he cheated with? Trump does because he paid a porn star a lot of money not to tell.
He cheated on his wives, nobody disputes this, but he is not a racist no matter how much you libs wish it to be.
And you know this because?... he has produced pictures of himself next to popular black people and received some award? Yeah that does it, that is certainly proof he isn’t racist.
Flagpole wrote:
880 gal wrote:
If that is true then why is Trump not guilty of attempted obstruction of justice. The report clearly says he tried to do illegal things but his staff either ignored him or refused to do it.
The House will take this on. He's not out of the woods on obstruction.
endeavor to obstruct justice
The House should call Mueller to testify and go after Trump on obstruction charges, they are as clear as day on the report. In Trumpland, if you missed your shot when you tried to murder someone you are not a criminal.
Sally Vix wrote:
Veni, vidi, no vici
Meuller came, he saw, and he did not conquer.
Trump defiantly wins yet again.
The only one involved here who actually did his job and followed the rule of law was Meuller.
your leader, trump, tried actually to both conspire and obstruct but... 1) there was not enough evidence to prove in court that trump (and team) conspired... 2) trumps minions actually prevented obstruction by not following orders... yes, orders from trump to actually obstruct.
So your leader is cleared... you should be so very happy... even though he actually tried to both conspire with a foreign power and obstruct justice... keep on keep'in on ye old trumper
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Mueller and team found no collusion/conspiracy and no obstruction. Wrap it up and put a bow on it. It is done!
Wrong. The report says the exact opposite of this. We have provided plenty of direct quotes, which you have completely avoided addressing.
Something else worth noting: the report provides a comprehensive overview of Russia's "sweeping and systematic" attempt to interfere in our elections. This happened. It is no longer up for debate. Trump has defended Russia from accusations of election interference ad nauseam and his administration has done NOTHING to prevent this from happening again. This alone is cause for impeachment.
All of this. Sally, read it an weep.
Obstruction wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
You are obviously not an attorney. Ignorance of the law is not a defense.
̛I am far more knowledgeable of the law than you are. Attorneys pay me as an expert witness.
Ignorance of the law is the rationale Barr gave to Mueller for not indicting the children of the Trump (daily Don Jr) and Trump himself. So, Barr os obviously not a qualified attorney in your opinion.
Sally, you lose again. speaking of egg on your face...
Obstruction wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I hope attorneys don't pay you too much for your "expert" services. Mueller was never going to indict Trump. Mueller was serving at the behest of the Department of the Justice and it has a long-stranding practice/principle of not indicting sitting presidents.
$250 per hour.
I realize you are whining about spelling—something I could less about on an internet forum. Proper spelling in a draft document will not earn you the pay I make. What does earn me the pay is my ability to limit the amount of money an attorney suing someone can make on a claim. Attorney hire experts to shut down parts of a case. That is what I do.
You on the other hand, with your good, but worthless, internet spelling seem to be unemployed.
Obstruction...crushing it
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Oh my, this report is riddled with episodes of obstruction... including motives and smallest detail. There is a lot of evidence of obstruction there, no way to dispute that... Dems should move to impeach. Mueller clearly wanted to lay out all the details possible for congress to have a go at it.
I believe that is correct and what will happen. Mueller says exactly that Congress should be the one to look at the Obstruction of Justice issue. Set up for an impeachment move by the House.
You guys are great at watching CNN.
the colonel wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Not only am I not going to race you...
LOOK CHICKEN!!!!!!!
http://subversify.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/chicken-011.jpg
OK. That made me laugh.
CNN watcher wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I believe that is correct and what will happen. Mueller says exactly that Congress should be the one to look at the Obstruction of Justice issue. Set up for an impeachment move by the House.
You guys are great at watching CNN.
And they are great at watching PMSNBC too. The delusion never ends with these libs.
The corrector wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I will read it of course, because I always properly educate myself on matters before forming an opinion unlike many here.
I actually don't feel a need to pick it "apart". Trump's comeuppance is coming. He is a fool to have run for President to begin with knowing how criminal he was (and he knows he's a criminal). He was continuing his fool self by firing Comey and then announcing on national television that he did it because of the Russia investigation.
You Trumpers for some reason (well, EITHER stupidity or racism) continue to back a man who lies to you constantly, who assaults the rule of law, who doesn't appear to understand how anything works, both political and non-political, who is a criminal and a grifter.
He will go to prison. He will be ruined financially. I hope he lives a long life.
You won't read one page of the report. You'll watch CNN and/or MSNBC and get your information from there, just like you always do.
Not only have I now read the whole report, I used Adobe Acrobat to change the picture PDF that I had to text so that I can search it and copy text from it if I want to.
impy wrote:
Make America Great Again wrote:
There is no way 20 Republican Senators agree with them. Any attempt at impeachment will blow up in their faces, just like it did with impeachment of Clinton.
Sounds like desperation.
FYI: The attempted impeachment of Clinton by Republicans resulted in eight years of President Bush.
Exactly right. If not for that scandal (which is one of the 13 keys by the way), Al Gore would have been President. It didn't help Hillary in 2016 either. She was seen as an enabler of a womanizer (at best just a womanizer), and that's not an inaccurate assessment. Those opinions were baked in because of Clinton's impeachment.
While the House moving forward with articles of impeachment is ultimately bad for Trump and Republicans, even if he is acquitted in the Senate, that is not why I am for it. A President should have to go through the impeachment process if they committed impeachable offenses (which he has), regardless of the political outcome. Really the only reason not to is a timing issue...too close to an election to complete the process in time.
except... wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Veni, vidi, no vici
Meuller came, he saw, and he did not conquer.
Trump defiantly wins yet again.
The only one involved here who actually did his job and followed the rule of law was Meuller.
your leader, trump, tried actually to both conspire and obstruct but... 1) there was not enough evidence to prove in court that trump (and team) conspired... 2) trumps minions actually prevented obstruction by not following orders... yes, orders from trump to actually obstruct.
So your leader is cleared... you should be so very happy... even though he actually tried to both conspire with a foreign power and obstruct justice... keep on keep'in on ye old trumper
Sally Vix is a stamp approved certified trumper through and through
HeBeDumb wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
The House will take this on. He's not out of the woods on obstruction.
endeavor to obstruct justice
The House should call Mueller to testify and go after Trump on obstruction charges, they are as clear as day on the report. In Trumpland, if you missed your shot when you tried to murder someone you are not a criminal.
I agree that this is what SHOULD happen. Democrats are politicians too though and do not have a stranglehold on integrity like I do. If the Democrat leadership decides it will be detrimental to Democrats to begin an impeachment process, they will not do it. So far, Pelosi is saying that, and others do agree with her, but, again, being politicians, you can't take that to the bank. That stance now just makes it all the more strong if they DO decide to go forward with impeachment. They can then say, "We have been on the record as saying there wasn't enough evidence, blah, blah, blah...but now that we have seen the fully unredacted Mueller Report (which they will), we have decided we have no choice. It is our responsibility as elected members of Congress to proceed with impeachment."
Time will tell. Mueller is still coming in the form of 14 other investigations that were borne of his probe. Then there are 3 others on top of that (that we know of).
So...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
CNN watcher wrote:
You guys are great at watching CNN.
And they are great at watching PMSNBC too. The delusion never ends with these libs.
Is all the content of the Mueller report delusion to you? Have you read any of it? Do you understand it’s that document that matters and not how any network spins it?
