"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

It's "memory B & T cell" action from the adaptive immune system - c'mon now don't act ignorant about this important function of the adaptive immune system. 😉 I experienced mild symptoms that didn't slow me down much - I was still able to hit my workouts, keep my healthy nutrition up & function normally. 💪 Btw, I've experience more discomfort while training with the weights from my post-traumatic OA then what this coronavirus can do (compliments of injuries sustained in car accident when hit by a texting driver who ran a red light 😡). And isn't this supposedly the very virulent Delta variant that you & your pro-vaxx mafia members keep fearmongering about? Lol.

And aren't you the one that will post & glorify when a "anti-vaxxer conservative" dies of Covid (as if all anti-vaxx, conservatives are doomed to die of Covid). Well...it didn't take me down or even put me in the hospital. Can you do better? Have you gotten Delta or the original SARS-CoV-2 that you can share your personal experience with? I would think you would appreciated my case acknowledging that the majority of unvaccinated healthy & fit at any age that had a previous infection are not in danger of suffering severe illness that requires hospitalization. If I had died & someone posted my obituary here, and knowing you - you would celebrate my death using it as an example of a stupid, anti-vaxx conservative that should have taken the vaxx. Lol. So, why aren't you acknowledging that my robust memory B & T cells from prior infection & my excellent overall health & fitness promulgated a good outcome in my case? TBH, I think you're just pissed that I didn't die from Covid & that I'm unvaxxed Conservative Right-Winger that you Leftists despise. Lol.

Here's another older athlete (59) surviving Covid with flying colors:

Here's his message for people like you:

Omicron is the vaccine that works without all the problems from the jab.

This thing will be over soon.

How will Pfizer keep it going?

You think it'll be over soon?

What happens then all these vaccine mandates?

Will the mayor of NYC resind the vaccine passport and the unvaccinated & those with natural immunity can once again patronize the gyms, restaurants, theaters, indoor sporting events, etc., once again?

Same with the strict vaccine passport systems in Boston, Chicago, LA & San Fran - will these measures be terminated once the pandemic is over?

Or will the Democratic mayors of these fine cities keep the passport systems operational indefinitely as a means to continually punish and discriminate against the vaccinated & those with natural immunity?

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

You think it'll be over soon?

What happens then all these vaccine mandates?

Will the mayor of NYC resind the vaccine passport and the unvaccinated & those with natural immunity can once again patronize the gyms, restaurants, theaters, indoor sporting events, etc., once again?

Same with the strict vaccine passport systems in Boston, Chicago, LA & San Fran - will these measures be terminated once the pandemic is over?

Or will the Democratic mayors of these fine cities keep the passport systems operational indefinitely as a means to continually punish and discriminate against the vaccinated & those with natural immunity?

I do think it (the pandemic) will be over. And soon. Omicron seems to be incredibly transmissible and we will all get it within the next month or month and a half. 80% of cases will be asymptomatic with nearly all the rest quite mild. It will be worse for some of the most vulnerable. WE will then have natural immunity, herd immunity. Future mild variants may crop up seasonally that we may not be immune to

The vaccine mandates and passports will remain in place as long a we allow them to get away with it. Lockdowns too.

The reaction has never been about public health. WE know this as the FDA et al have actively smeared and discouraged early treatment options and continue to do so.

Like the Patriot Act that was supposed to sunset after 3 years but is continuously renewed in quiet, the govt and the oligarchs will keep all the added power the have claimed due to Covid.

Unless we stop them

Cases in Florida skyrocketing.

How many times can we issue and then rescind DeSantis’ apology?

Another strike against the “it’s only seasonal therefore having a bonehead governor and state policymakers who ignore mitigation and sacrifice thousands to Delta isn’t bad, actually.”

carmine9 wrote:

Unless we stop them

You’ve done nothing but cry and lie online for 2 years. You’ve made no attempt to stop anything. If this is supposedly a power-grab for the ages… you’ve simply rolled over and accepted it. Pitiful.

1) Delta is not really more virulent than prior strains. This is what the evidence shows. It’s simply more transmissible.

2) I don’t celebrate the deaths of antivaxx morons. It’s tragic that they die due to poor choices fueled by propaganda that you and your ilk amplify.

3) If you got symptomatic COVID twice before Onicron, you didn’t have an amazing immune response from the first one. This isn’t that big a deal, but it highlights the extreme variability in immune responses after COVID infection, again demonstrating the need for vaccination after infection (as we cannot know how well someone built immune memory after infection). Thank you for accidentally proving my point.

NachoLibre wrote:

I can't believe the Brojos let the misinformation title of this thread stand when hospitals are in chaos because healthy unvaccinated people are not allowed to work and sick vaccinated and boosted people can't work.

Or when fully vaccinated colleges are shut down and back to distance learning which is most unfortunate for those 100% vaccinated population, sure no pandemic impacts there.

Hospitals would not be in crises if not for the antivaxxers getting severe COVID. It always comes back to them.

Youre this close to understanding it… good work!

Most kids in ICU at major hospital with COVID had underlying conditions: NYC doctor

Healthy young kids in New York may be spared from the worst of Omicron.

The majority of children hospitalized in recent weeks with serious cases of COVID-19 at one major New York City pediatric center had underlying conditions or were adolescents, a doctor told The Post.

Most younger children admitted to Northwell Health’s pediatric ICU amid a wave of Omicron were immunosuppressed, had cancer or other preexisting problems, said Dr. Matthew Harris, who specializes in pediatric emergency medicine.

Harambe wrote:

NachoLibre wrote:

I can't believe the Brojos let the misinformation title of this thread stand when hospitals are in chaos because healthy unvaccinated people are not allowed to work and sick vaccinated and boosted people can't work.

Or when fully vaccinated colleges are shut down and back to distance learning which is most unfortunate for those 100% vaccinated population, sure no pandemic impacts there.

Hospitals would not be in crises if not for the antivaxxers getting severe COVID. It always comes back to them.

Youre this close to understanding it… good work!

You fully put Covid in the upper case to show your worship?

You're almost ready to get it. The people that need non-Covid treatments and are being pushed out of hospitals because your expert/heroes said healthy medical professionals have to stay home. Those are the ones most impacted. Meanwhile, your hospitals play Covid for everything is worth to their bottom line.

Harambe wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Unless we stop them

You’ve done nothing but cry and lie online for 2 years. You’ve made no attempt to stop anything. If this is supposedly a power-grab for the ages… you’ve simply rolled over and accepted it. Pitiful.

Its easy to stop you Big Pharma shills.

Just say no to the jab. And the vaccine passports and mandates. As I have done.

The opposite of rolling over and accepting it.

You will never be accused of clarity of thought

It's a pandemic, not a debatable difference of opinion. Personal quibbles and cherry-picked examples for the sake of argumentation are not helpful. Your personal rights will be intact but required to be a bit more flexible in the interest of the General Good. It's hard to trust government and most organized agencies and businesses these days after the recent half-decade debacle involving objective truth and reality. If not humility then maybe a greater measure of common sense is needed:

take your medicine and hope for the best for all of us.

carmine9 wrote:

Just say no to the jab. And the vaccine passports and mandates. As I have done.

Easier said than done.

What if you live in a city like NY where de Blasio has implemented such a strict passport that you practically can't take a leak without being vaccinated.

If you say no, you're lock out of society - no going to gyms/rec centers, theater, restaurants, indoor sporting events, indoor concerts, museums, libraries, chiropractors, etc.

What do you do then carmine9?

And it seems more & more of America is okay with these strict vaccine passports. Look what the "Jamese 1045" just posted - we should give up our personal rights for the greater good of society.

How do you counter that mindset?

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Just say no to the jab. And the vaccine passports and mandates. As I have done.

Easier said than done.

What if you live in a city like NY where de Blasio has implemented such a strict passport that you practically can't take a leak without being vaccinated.

If you say no, you're lock out of society - no going to gyms/rec centers, theater, restaurants, indoor sporting events, indoor concerts, museums, libraries, chiropractors, etc.

What do you do then carmine9?

And it seems more & more of America is okay with these strict vaccine passports. Look what the "Jamese 1045" just posted - we should give up our personal rights for the greater good of society.

How do you counter that mindset?

So far, gyms, etc, outside of the big cities are not vaccine passported yet. So, much as I love the big cities, just cannot visit until sanity returns. I will obviously have to miss my Celts games this year.

Let's see how much more draconian they will become and if the people will continue to roll over.

Omicron is very mild and will get everyone --jabbed or not. This will be an effective vaccine and will end this pandemic. Let's see if the elites can continue to scare people when this happens. I am hopeful enough people will wake up and end this nonsense. They will continue to fear monger and many will still fall for it but I am hopeful they will not succeed.

NachoLibre wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Hospitals would not be in crises if not for the antivaxxers getting severe COVID. It always comes back to them.

Youre this close to understanding it… good work!

You fully put Covid in the upper case to show your worship?

You're almost ready to get it. The people that need non-Covid treatments and are being pushed out of hospitals because your expert/heroes said healthy medical professionals have to stay home. Those are the ones most impacted. Meanwhile, your hospitals play Covid for everything is worth to their bottom line.

The CDC shortened the isolation time to 5 days.

Only the UNVACCINATED are likely to be transmissible with Omicron after that time period.

The unvaccinated continue to require the vast majority of ICU beds, vents, $$$, and HCW time. A pitiful shame, the price of dogma and stupidity.

BTW COVID is an acronym. It’s normal to capitalize it. Telling that such semantic BS was your leading argument…

2600 bro wrote:

NachoLibre wrote:

You fully put Covid in the upper case to show your worship?

You're almost ready to get it. The people that need non-Covid treatments and are being pushed out of hospitals because your expert/heroes said healthy medical professionals have to stay home. Those are the ones most impacted. Meanwhile, your hospitals play Covid for everything is worth to their bottom line.

The CDC shortened the isolation time to 5 days.

Only the UNVACCINATED are likely to be transmissible with Omicron after that time period.

The unvaccinated continue to require the vast majority of ICU beds, vents, $$$, and HCW time. A pitiful shame, the price of dogma and stupidity.

BTW COVID is an acronym. It’s normal to capitalize it. Telling that such semantic BS was your leading argument…

Here's to another year of antivaxxers going home DEVASTATED everyday.

2600 bro wrote:

The CDC shortened the isolation time to 5 days.

Only the UNVACCINATED are likely to be transmissible with Omicron after that time period.

The unvaccinated continue to require the vast majority of ICU beds, vents, $$$, and HCW time. A pitiful shame, the price of dogma and stupidity.

BTW COVID is an acronym. It’s normal to capitalize it. Telling that such semantic BS was your leading argument…

Now that data is starting to trickle in on Omicron, it appears more and more likely that Omicron is acting on Antibody Dependent Enhancement, which is why cases are rising particularly fast among the vaccinated. Cases started the past couple weeks and it is starting to hit hospitalizations (Ontario went from 31% of their hospitalizations being vaccinated to 71% over the past two weeks). Most US hospitals are not tracking or disclosing these numbers until after the holidays, but there will be an awakening in a couple of weeks that will likely flip a lot of your claims and knowledge about vaccines over on themselves.

Harambe wrote:

Hospitals would not be in crises if not for the antivaxxers getting severe COVID.

Translation:

All the healthy people who haven't gotten the clot shots are causing the vaxxers to get sick from them.

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

If you say no, you're lock out of society - no going to gyms/rec centers, theater, restaurants, indoor sporting events, indoor concerts, museums, libraries, chiropractors, etc.

What do you do then carmine9?

And it seems more & more of America is okay with these strict vaccine passports. Look what the "Jamese 1045" just posted - we should give up our personal rights for the greater good of society.

How do you counter that mindset?

It seems you can only stay home and cry on your computer. Should be pretty easy for you :)