Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
My suggestion is to stop replying to Sally on this topic. I ban the crazy people (after giving them a lot of slack first) which is why I don't respond anymore to some who still post here. Sally has moments of lucidity though so, I do respond to him when his thoughts aren't bonkers. It's a fine line Sally walks though.
Flagpole, I am not some nutjob. I posted what I sincerely thought about what Northam had said. I posted exactly what he said. You can claim I am misreading it but I don't think I am.
I said you have moments of lucidity, and I can accept that people are not right all the time. As I have said, I am not going to discuss abortion or anyone's opinions on abortion. Regardless of the subject matter here, you have spewed the same thing again and again and not accepted concrete evidence that what you are spewing is wrong. There are crazy people (I have had to ban another one today) and there are people who sometimes say crazy things. Right now, you are the latter. If you ever dip into the crazy person category, I will tell you, and then if you can't pull yourself out, I will ban you. Consequently, you COULD be someone who evolves to NEVER say any crazy things. I will wish that for you.
Fetus does not = infant wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The governor of Virginia Ralph Northam supports infanticide. Many Democrats are on board with killing viable babies outside the womb. What say you?
Ed,
Just an FYI, here is the Oxford English definition of infanticide...
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/infanticideAn infant is defined as a child from the point of live birth - 1 year old. Medical definition of fetus and infant here...
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/5/e20160551It should be noted, in medical textbooks there is often a distinction made between neonates (birth to 2 months—ever heard of a NICU?) and an infant (2 months post birth to 1 year) but that may be splitting hairs too much for some of you.
I am not aware of any lib calling to kill infants (properly defined as either a child from live birth to 1 year old or, more correctly, 2 months post live birth and 1 year old). If you are referring to Ralph Northman’s recent comments on abortion—what you are saying is false. Here is what he said....
“Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman is going into labor who desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that this kind of procedure only occurs in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy. He said that in this scenario, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
Source....
https://www.nbcnews.com/card/fact-check-virginia-gov-ralph-northam-stated-he-would-execute-n967626In case you need it, here is a link to the English definition of non-viable.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/non-viableHere is a link with Northam’s full radio interview—its long but if you listen to what he says you’ll see he never says he thinks it’s okay to kill an infant. To claim he said he was okay with “infanticide” is a lie.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6WD_3H0wKU... but here is Trump saying we should specifically target our enemies families which presumably includes innocent children in the age range of an infant.
http://time.com/4132368/donald-trump-isis-bombing/And here is Jeb Bush saying he’d kill a baby under certain circumstances. Admittedly, he doesn’t specifically say he’d kill a baby if it was an infant or if he’d wait until after its first birthday.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oFZoVIDx5dgOf course, there is also the fact that the majority of conservatives frequently call for increasing the number of infants born to poor women by restricting access to appropriate family planning options while simultaneously calling for slashing funding to programs that help poor children get adequate access to healthcare, good nutrition, and housing which, of course, all contribute to increased infant mortality in the US.
+1
Sally Vix wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Sally’s not a nut job, she’s a serial liar supporting a serial liar (who’s a nut job!). She’s a professional troll in that someone’s dumb enough to pay her, but she’s a rank amateur in terms of zero actual ability. But then all trumpers have similar characteristics, based on the ignorant racist who they support. Sell-outs.
I am not here to troll. I am here to engage in sincere discussions about politics and related subjects. It really concerns me how so many of you here are all about removing Trump from office. Sure, he is the biggest douche around. He treats ladies like dirt. He is a bombastic fool. But, he was elected fair and square. The American electorate elected him to be president. You Democrats have had your panties in bunches since and have been trying everything possible to reverse the election. Again, I despise Trump but he was the legitimate winner of the last election. Accept that and you will sleep better at night. You can work at defeating him in the next election all you want. I would rather have Pence as president. Trump is a blowhard but I do have to admit I derive some pleasure how much his presidency makes you more and more deranged. It is great entertainment seeing you Liberals having a meltdown every day of his presidency. God bless you and I still love you despite our differences.
He actually was NOT elected "fair and square". He directed TWO FELONIES to help him get elected, and that's just what we know about. If he is not pardoned for that, he WILL go to prison for those felonies.
You support a serial liar and a criminal. You just admitted now that you like Trump because he makes liberals upset. THAT is not a good reason to enjoy a president, and it does not show a person with a good heart. I thought you were all upset about the migrants coming into this country. Now, Trump just wants to let them ALL in as long as they go to traditionally Democrat cities. First of all, there are Republicans who voted for Trump in those cities too, and second of all, if you let them into a certain city, there is no guarantee they will stay there. Why would they? They will go where the jobs are, and farm jobs and cheap illegal labor is found in rural areas in RED states...well, at Trump properties too. When have you ever heard of a president doing something ONLY as a perceived punitive for political opponents? His suggestion is illegal, immoral, childish, and indicative of an a$$hole.
I reject that you still love liberals if you have glee in them being upset over Trump. That's one difference between you and me. I actually DO care about those who feel disenfranchised by politicians, even by Democrats, for I feel Democrats have a lot of fault there. I don't want those people to be upset by anything Democrats do or anything politician does. ON THE OTHER HAND, I continue to KNOW that Trumpers (and you are one) were fooled initially in 2016 and those that remain are either JUST stupid or racist. NOTHING that Trump has done has helped the working class or the lower class. The stupid tax break helped corporations and wealthy people like me who are heavily invested in the stock market. Joe punch card has seen nothing improve other than a slight improvement in the unemployment rate that was on the way down to where it is now anyway, no matter who was elected.
You remain wrong in your view of Trump, and you should feel shame until you change.
TRUMP FLIP-FLOPS AGAIN!
After twitter-ranting in the course of less than 100 minutes . . . . Trump claimed was pro sending asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. And then claimed he would arrest them all after he dropped them off.
Rigged, Sally and JaminLoper immediately flip-flopped to agree with their deer leader.
First they wanted NO ONE IN.
Then they wanted them ALL IN.
Then they wanted them ALL OUT.
Hmmm . . . what, all in about 1-1/2 hours?
So much Trumper flip-flopping.
Democrats must change the Immigration Laws FAST. If not, Sanctuary Cities must immediately ACT to take care of the Illegal Immigrants – and this includes Gang Members, Drug Dealers, Human Traffickers, and Criminals of all shapes, sizes and kinds. CHANGE THE LAWS NOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 5:08 PM - 13 Apr 2019
Just out: The USA has the absolute legal right to have apprehended illegal immigrants transferred to Sanctuary Cities. We hereby demand that they be taken care of at the highest level, especially by the State of California, which is well known or its poor management & high taxes!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 6:47 PM - 13 Apr 2019
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117218059738079233
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117242926654947328
Flip-Flop wrote:
TRUMP FLIP-FLOPS AGAIN!
After twitter-ranting in the course of less than 100 minutes . . . . Trump claimed was pro sending asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. And then claimed he would arrest them all after he dropped them off.
Rigged, Sally and JaminLoper immediately flip-flopped to agree with their deer leader.
First they wanted NO ONE IN.
Then they wanted them ALL IN.
Then they wanted them ALL OUT.
Hmmm . . . what, all in about 1-1/2 hours?
So much Trumper flip-flopping.
Democrats must change the Immigration Laws FAST. If not, Sanctuary Cities must immediately ACT to take care of the Illegal Immigrants – and this includes Gang Members, Drug Dealers, Human Traffickers, and Criminals of all shapes, sizes and kinds. CHANGE THE LAWS NOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 5:08 PM - 13 Apr 2019
Just out: The USA has the absolute legal right to have apprehended illegal immigrants transferred to Sanctuary Cities. We hereby demand that they be taken care of at the highest level, especially by the State of California, which is well known or its poor management & high taxes!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 6:47 PM - 13 Apr 2019
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117218059738079233https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117242926654947328
Maybe Donny should stick to what he’s good at, like eating cheeseburgers
Trollminator wrote:
Flip-Flop wrote:
TRUMP FLIP-FLOPS AGAIN!
After twitter-ranting in the course of less than 100 minutes . . . . Trump claimed was pro sending asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. And then claimed he would arrest them all after he dropped them off.
Rigged, Sally and JaminLoper immediately flip-flopped to agree with their deer leader.
First they wanted NO ONE IN.
Then they wanted them ALL IN.
Then they wanted them ALL OUT.
Hmmm . . . what, all in about 1-1/2 hours?
So much Trumper flip-flopping.
Democrats must change the Immigration Laws FAST. If not, Sanctuary Cities must immediately ACT to take care of the Illegal Immigrants – and this includes Gang Members, Drug Dealers, Human Traffickers, and Criminals of all shapes, sizes and kinds. CHANGE THE LAWS NOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 5:08 PM - 13 Apr 2019
Just out: The USA has the absolute legal right to have apprehended illegal immigrants transferred to Sanctuary Cities. We hereby demand that they be taken care of at the highest level, especially by the State of California, which is well known or its poor management & high taxes!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 6:47 PM - 13 Apr 2019
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117218059738079233https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117242926654947328Maybe Donny should stick to what he’s good at, like eating cheeseburgers
ya trump is the ultimate troll.
he's there to annoy snowflakes and losers.
so what?
the economy is rolling and the dems want to crash it, as a tactic to power.
trump makes cash and dems take it.
hello, is anyone home?
Must be tough to be locked up for insanity, and they don’t even allow you capital letters!
jamin wrote:
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You are an idiot.
Flagpole wrote:
Not So Fast My Friend wrote:
No one is asking you to. You should admit you are wrong when you are wrong, and you are wrong here. You know that a thread wasn't deleted. You then need to either prove that what you say I said is true or admit you are wrong...OR we just will all know you have no integrity.
You are wrong, brother. No shame in that, but you are wrong.
Not sure why admitting you backed Avenetti is causing you so much stress. Why even continue to lie about it at this point? He's not running (unless he pulls a Ron Reynolds, of course).
You are obviously trolling at this point, so this will be my last comment to you under your user name which I'm sure you'll just change.
1) I never lie.
2) I did not back Avenatti for President.
3) You can not prove that I did, because I did not.
4) Not causing me stress...just feel it would be good for your soul to admit you were wrong. And you are wrong.[/quote]
flagpole: fwiw. i do remember you saying in this thread or one on an avenetti one that you could see yourself voting for him for president. whether that means you backed him, i'll leave it up to you and this other guy.
Kenpo wrote:
jamin wrote:
You are an idiot.
He also is responsible for over 10,000 posts on this thread. Rarely using his regular name. Drink F*cK Fight was one he posted under before it got banned.
I’m from Arkansas & we’re known for strong family ties & soybeans, not for being smarter than New Yorkers.
jamin wrote:
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Thankfully dirt doesn’t vote. The American City is very liberal.
Alan
Plus all of Russia ?? voted for trump, too.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
You are lying again. Northam does not support infanticide and you know it. Why do you keep spouting the same old lies over and over?
I am NOT lying. Northam said that if a baby survives a botched abortion, i.e., he or she is born alive, the mother and family would decide to provide medical care to the baby or just allow the baby to die. If mom and the family decided they did not want the baby, then the baby would be killed.
That is not infanticide. Any parent has the right to decide appropriate care to their child. And sometimes, that means allowing a suffering child to die instead of taking extraordinary measures to keep it alive. You know that and yet you keep saying that Northam, and other Democrats are in favor of infanticide.
So stop saying people are in favor of infanticide.
By the way, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
v good point
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I am NOT lying. Northam said that if a baby survives a botched abortion, i.e., he or she is born alive, the mother and family would decide to provide medical care to the baby or just allow the baby to die. If mom and the family decided they did not want the baby, then the baby would be killed.
That is not infanticide. Any parent has the right to decide appropriate care to their child. And sometimes, that means allowing a suffering child to die instead of taking extraordinary measures to keep it alive. You know that and yet you keep saying that Northam, and other Democrats are in favor of infanticide.
So stop saying people are in favor of infanticide.
By the way, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
Enough Fat Hurts. You are way out of bounds and you are totally misrepresenting what Northam said. What you said was garbage. You should be ashamed of yourself and I may ban you.
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I am NOT lying. Northam said that if a baby survives a botched abortion, i.e., he or she is born alive, the mother and family would decide to provide medical care to the baby or just allow the baby to die. If mom and the family decided they did not want the baby, then the baby would be killed.
Any parent has the right to decide appropriate care to their child. And sometimes, that means allowing a suffering child to die instead of taking extraordinary measures to keep it alive.
Wow. It amazes me that some people in this day and age have this view.
It's people like you with that attitude that keeps DFACS overworked.
