Official US-Israel-Iran War Thread

per NBC News and Ryan Grim.

Iran see the upcoming peace as a stabilizing period to close out the last US fascist proxy regime from the region. Egypt, Turkie, Pakistan are the next targets for liberation.

Iran's president has again repeated his position that there will be no talks with the US until the blockade is lifted. The Trump administration is telling the press that the US and Iran are very close to a "short term" deal to end fighting. Ghalibaf today said that there was no such deal and told the people of Iran to be prepared for more fighting.

It is hard to tell what is going on with the reports that the Saudis stopped Trump's Project Freedom NASCAR Driving Laps Around Masjid al-Haram. Reports are that the GCC states were mad that they were not consulted and did not want to get bombed by Iran in response to the new military action. But this conflicts with reports that the Saudis have wanted Trump to finish the job and restart strikes against Iran.

The Emiratis have spilt from OPEC and the Saudis are complaining that there is now an emerging alliance with the Emiratis and Israel. Iran and Saudi Arabia's foreign ministers held a diplomatic phone call yesterday. At one point, Iran was willing to cut deals with its neighbors to allow vessels to transit the Strait. That was part of the reason Trump implemented the blockade. But things could get very messy if there is a split between the GCC states with some willing to bury the hatchet with Iran and others sticking with the US. Saudi Arabia really holds the most cards as the US needs to be able to fly over Saudi because it has a carrier group in the Red Sea in order to be out of range of Iran's missiles and drones.

What about the Iranian people? Now women are forced to wear hijab and internet is down. The protesters are getting killed because of US

Way to go, Way to go...

Tehran has laid out a set of new rules for vessels seeking to transit the strait, according to a document seen by CNN, pressing ahead with efforts to formalize control over the waterway in defiance of US warnings.

Entitled “Vessel Information Declaration,” the document is an application form issued by Iran’s newly created Persian Gulf Strait Authority (PGSA) and must be completed by all transiting vessels to ensure safe passage. It was shared with CNN by Lloyds List and another shipping industry source who wished to remain anonymous.

Before the US and Israeli campaign against Iran began at the end of February, the strait was free for any vessel of any origin to navigate. But since the conflict began, Iran has threatened to strike any ship passing through Hormuz without permission from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) navy. A number of vessels have come under attack, but the vast majority of ship owners and operators have opted not to take the risk of sending their vessels through in defiance of Iran.

The PGSA document now made available to shippers comprises more than 40 questions, requiring vessels to declare their name and identification number, any “previous name,” country of origin and destination.

It also asks for the nationalities of the registered owners and operators and of the crew on board, plus details of the cargo.

According to the PGSA, the information must be emailed to the authority before a vessel can transit the strait.

An email from PGSA shared with CNN includes a warning that “complete and accurate information is essential” to processing the vessel’s request to transit and that “further instructions will be communicated via email.”

“Any incorrect or incomplete information provided will be the sole responsibility of the applicant, and any resulting consequences will be borne accordingly,” the email says.

cnn.com

Iran imposes new rules for Hormuz in effort to cement control of key waterway | CNN

Eleni Giokos, Tim Lister

Tehran has laid out a set of new rules for vessels seeking to transit the Strait of Hormuz, according to a document seen by CNN, pressing ahead with efforts to formalize control over the waterway in defiance of US warnings.

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And now the Saudis and Kuwaitis have agreed to reopen their airspace with the Trump administration claiming that they may be able to revive Project Freedom UFC Fighters Making Khabib Eat Pork Chops.

One factor that could play into Trump cutting a deal soon is that Trump is scheduled to travel to China on May 14 to meet with Xi. The Chinese want this conflict to end and Trump does not want to have to sit down with Xi and explain why cutting off China's access to Persian Gulf oil, aluminum and fertilizer is a good thing for US/Sino relations.

Sure. Always the fault of the USA. I'm Canadian. The USA has saved dozens of countries the last 50 years.

Yet people live there and complain to no end. Where did those Biden tax dollars sent to Ukraine really go to? BILLIONS! The corruption part goes unchecked but you all complain about your own country doing what other countries rely on them to do.

We actually had a true scammer, and Justin is gone now---thank God. Appreciate what you have as Harris probably would have done the same

Israelis and Saudis have a plan. They are telling Trump what to do and he is obeying like a good little subordinate. Weak. Impotent.

you know that the White House has had meetings with Albertan separatists, right? Sure you want to defend them as they support dismembering Canada?

This WH is a cancer on free nations, including yours. The USA currently has a foreign policy closer to Russia than the UK.

Trump is now letting this get even more messy.

If, but I doubt, op freedom was stopped cos gulf states wouldn't allow fly through/ bases, then trump has irrevocably lost - hence I doubt it.

Emirates partnering with Israel has been on the cards, but to do it now is reckless.

Hang on, didn't Iran go into economic meltdown last week? Or not.

Trump needs to gain the upper hand, instead he is losing ground.

Israel wants the attack on Iran resumed. Israel is the reason there is a war with Iran and why the US is in it. Hence, there will be no cessation of hostilities.

REally? By killing millions of people in the ME once they were done killing millions in Asia

Nearly all these "hate crimes" are not crimes and not hateful against the supposed victims

And now the US has hit Iran's ports of Bandar Abbas and Qeshm and Iran launched attacks against US destroyers in the Gulf. Unclear who shot first. But this definitely is not any sort of fighting that would be subject to the War Powers Act. Operation Epic Fury Keeping Trans Iranian Kids from Playing Girl's Soccer is over and Iran is on the verge of accepting all of Trump's 15 point peace proposal. There is just some push back on points nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15. And Iran wants reparations and will not negotiate until the blockade is lifted. But other than that, there is practically a signed peace deal in place at least until Trump's cronies have bought up a bunch of oil futures that they will flip when the price spikes again after renewed fighting.

Cherry picking fits you well. America has saved too many countries to count. You should really jump pack a suitcase and move.

Drawdowns of reserves of crude and refined products have erased pre-war oversupply conditions and are quickly heading into a shortage danger zone for this summer if the conflict continues. US exporters are increasing shipments to Asia, but at the same time are causing US gas prices to spike. Average gas price in the US is up to $4.558 and will continue to climb as summer driving season hits. The increased shipments to Asia have not been able to come anywhere close to meeting the gap left by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. Shortages will begin hitting middle income Asian countries like Vietnam and Thailand later this month and then the high income Asian countries like S. Korea and Japan will get hit. That will mean spikes in the cost of consumer goods, especially those that use plastics or are energy intensive in manufacturing.

Trump has the ability to ban US exports of oil just with the stroke of a pen. But the oil companies would crap themselves as it would cause a glut in the US and crashing prices. And it would tank the world economy by sending crude prices from all other parts through the roof.

Energy markets and equity markets have generally been unable to accurately price future supply shocks and have been in denial since the beginning of the conflict. The constant assumption is that Trump will end it before it gets too bad. But we may be beyond that point and markets are going to freak out when we start seeing second and third order effects from this mess.

My wifey is a MD at the VA and tells my most ground combat vets are Dems, most REMFs are repubs. But this time the REMF Mac IT guys got bombed by Iran.

Meanwhile, China has decided they can ignore the US and the UN. They’ve decided to issue orders to ignore sanctions on Iran.
There’s a price to pay for stupidity and losing wars. When even Iran can take your biggest military hit and not back down, the rest of the world realizes you’re a paper tiger who’s $37 trillion in debt and run by buffoons. No one needs to listen to us any more.