NEW Atlantic Region XC *2009* thread

mikejones999 wrote:

http://www.stlawu.edu/athletics/sites/stlawu.edu.athletics/files/results/pdf/09mhoffmann.pdf

Cortland looks great. I no longer think Geneseo can beat them. Dan Ramsey shows that he's ready to compete. The proof? Not in his win, because I'm sure it wasn't an "all out" effort for Cortland, but because he ran one of the fastest times for the course.

No Mwenda? Looks like Greenlaw didn't have a great day. I heard the course was in good shape, but wet.

http://www.stlawu.edu/athletics/sites/stlawu.edu.athletics/files/results/pdf/09whoffmann.pdf

Pretty much the same story, just switch the teams. SLU top 3 look like they ran "together." Lots of team bunching throughout the race.

Geneseo had 4 guys with an 8k equivalent time faster than Cortland's first man. I'm not saying Geneseo is the favorite, but their race at Penn State was more impressive than Cortland's today. November...very well could be a completely different story knowing Geneseo's past.

THISISFREDONIA. wrote:

Geneseo had 4 guys with an 8k equivalent time faster than Cortland's first man. I'm not saying Geneseo is the favorite, but their race at Penn State was more impressive than Cortland's today. November...very well could be a completely different story knowing Geneseo's past.

i agree, cortland's performance yesterday was not as good as geneseo's at penn state. simple as that, just look at the times.

hard to say if dubios, wager and curry were running hard. but stermer's 26:03 as the 5th man (if you include o'brien) is a ways off of what gabler and o'connor ran as geneseo's 5th and 6th at penn st. although you gotta assume that either him or greenlaw is gonna step up and bridge the gap with that top 4.

UR looked decent. RIT appears as if they didn't run their A squad.

Fredonia Results.

Fredonia Men and Brockport Women win big.

Mens

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/mcrossc/docs/Results-09MInv.xls

Womens

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/wcrossc/docs/Results-09WInv.xls

yeah fredonia won HUGE, maybe it had something to do with the race being nothing but a dual meet vs matt avery

"being nothing but a dual meet vs matt avery"

well now we all know what alias matt avery posts under

how fast was the course they ran on?

and last year:

If the course hasn't changed much it doesn't look too fast by last year's times compared to this year. Then again this year's performances in general from Fredonia look stronger so it might not say much. Any word on if the course was the same?

I dont think it matters if the course changed because it is run through the same surfaces and areas just in a different way. I have run their course in the past and it is pretty slow.

Just look at these results:

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/mcrossc/mxc_06invite.htm

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/mcrossc/mxc_05-fred-invite.doc

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/wcrossc/fredoniainvitational.htm

http://www.fredonia.edu/athletics/mcrossc/fredoniainvitationalmen.htm

I think it is safe to say the course is slow.

Yo Fredonia wrote:

What's wrong with your boy Tommy Williams?

He's running like a girl.

Maybe instead of shaving his beard he should shave his legs and throw on some spankies and start running for the Fredonia women's team.

They still wouldn't break top 5 this year by a loooooonnng shot

Dan Ramsey for the win @ Atlantic Regional in November.

mikejones999 wrote:

http://www.stlawu.edu/athletics/sites/stlawu.edu.athletics/files/results/pdf/09mhoffmann.pdf

Cortland looks great. I no longer think Geneseo can beat them. Dan Ramsey shows that he's ready to compete. The proof? Not in his win, because I'm sure it wasn't an "all out" effort for Cortland, but because he ran one of the fastest times for the course.

No Mwenda? Looks like Greenlaw didn't have a great day. I heard the course was in good shape, but wet.

http://www.stlawu.edu/athletics/sites/stlawu.edu.athletics/files/results/pdf/09whoffmann.pdf

Pretty much the same story, just switch the teams. SLU top 3 look like they ran "together." Lots of team bunching throughout the race.

Dear Whoa Nelly,

1 25:08 Dan Ramsey JR St. Lawrence-1

Just sayin.

Love and kisses,

Big Will

PS I know you'll say that it's only September and he'll choke in November. Go ahead.

Big Will wrote:

Dear Whoa Nelly,

1 25:08 Dan Ramsey JR St. Lawrence-1

Just sayin.

Love and kisses,

Big Will

PS I know you'll say that it's only September and he'll choke in November. Go ahead.

Peter Kosgei

Ithaca gets handled by Susquehanna yesterday at the Misericordia Cougar Classic.

Very slow course, so times mean nothing, but it wasn't even very close

Looks like Ithaca didn't run a LOT of guys (looking at results, seems like 3 of the top 5 returners didn't race (Palma, Walker, Karkuff)...plus they had a lot of guys just standing around)

If those guys weren't racing for some reason other than rest, Ithaca will get destroyed in the postseason. Very poor meet for them.

No RIT vs. Ithaca trash talking yet?

Looking at the St.Law results I see two things;

Dan Ramsey is an animal

and

Cortland's pack ran to get their new frosh acclimated to the distance. (Which he obviously handled well)

also:

St. Law has 3-13 hanging out between 26:30 and 27:00. That is depth I've never seen before.

also:

Geneseo is lame.

Pertaining to Ithaca, times mean something when you compare them year to year on the same course, and Ithaca's times were much worse than last years team, a team that for a time looked to be a contender for top 5. Ithaca will have to run a lot better this year to be top 5. I would almost imagine they are out of the top 10 right now.

As to Dan Ramsey winning the regional: Kosgei, Heymann and Dubois will all have something to say about that. In fact I believe he was smoked by Heymann two weeks ago who just got smoked by Kosgei.

Cortland (Only by a few points)

Geneseo (If L Berube continues along the same way he is racing now)

NYU

SLU (could fall apart, did not look as sharp as their opener)

Plattsburgh (needs a 5th)

RIT (looks to be a spoiler)

Rochester (let's here the strong pack arguments!)

Fredonia (needs Williams back for a hope and prayer to crack the top 5)

Oneonta (surprisingly good, especially missing a couple top 5 guys this past weekend, we'll see how they run in an 8k though)

Ithaca

*hear the strong pack arguments

I also forgot tcnj. Here are better predictions, no ithaca

Cortland

Geneseo

Nyu

Slu

Plattsburgh

Tcnj

rit

Rochester

Fredonia

Oneonta

.

Is Plattsburgh that high up only on account of Heyman?

also:

TCNJ's opener wasn't anything to be proud of. (Lest there is information that I am missing)