Maybe, but someone running 16:45 at 45+ there's a paper trail or digital trail somewhere. Without that, the poster's claims are just that .. claims....not evidence..
Show me the evidence, otherwise it seems unlikely...
Hahahahaha, you are now talking to your 'buddy" yes?
I looked at my quite short time of serious training 6 sessions per week and the fastest I 've done was 300ms interval at 4:48 min/ km, so with my experience of predicting shape and race results doable I decided to go with 5:18- 5:19 min/ km in a 5 k time trial today . So I ran 26:30 min ......I'm pleased with that after 26 years with just sporadic runs and now serious training again . It gets better and better.🧙♂️
im proud of you coach! keep it up
Thanks 'High school xc coach! Really appreciate that. 🖐🧙♂️
IMO, sub-20 is definitely doable for the OP with his impressive background and probably enough spare time for training. But quite unlikely in 11 months, perhaps in 2 years.
My personal experience, in short. Was running sporadically and in an unstructured way from 40 through 60, making not more than 15-20 miles a week. When the weight came to a frighteningly high number (74+ kg with my height 170 cm only) I said “enough is enough” and decided to come back to competitive running. Was unable to complete 5K at my first attempt erroneously thinking that 4:30/km was a moderate pace (as it was in my youth). So, decided to play long and progress slowly (but surely), mostly because I was very injury prone, worked full time (and keep working in aerospace engineering) and did not have enough time for training. In a couple of months (T0+2) was able to make it at 23:36. Then the progress was as follows:
T0+6 months: 21:48 (weight – 72 kg) T0+12 months (was not running in winter for 4.5 months and only XC skied): 20:55 (weight – 67 kg) T0+17 months: 19:56 (weight – 65 kg)
Did not give up after that and at T0+5 years (being 65 y.o.) made it at 18:28 (weight 62), and 38:03/10K. Stayed at a plateau for about 1.5 years and then started declining ("father time" finally pressed me and also injuries accumulated). Now almost totally switched to trail running.
Again, good luck to the OP! The goal is reachable, but it is not easy.
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Thanks 'High school xc coach! Really appreciate that. 🖐🧙♂️
I remember when 2 years ago you said you could easily run a sub 20 and beat me. Now you are training, you have lost weight, and you look like you're dying while running a 26:30*
I was at the British masters 5k champs, as my wife was running. Letsrun very own sirpoc won (he's 42?) in 15:03 i think (a good tactical race to watch).
Anyway, there were 8 guys 45+ under 16:30, 6 guys 50+ 16:30 or under and a 60+ ran 16:42 (which was only good enough for 42nd overall.
A lot of these guys also never ran to their potential when they were younger. Sub optimal training, lack of mileage. A lot of the stuff we all got wrong when we were younger. In that we ran fast in spite of our training, not because of it.
Obviously some of these guys are also totally new runners. But I think you are way wrong in running 16:45 being articles about it. Nobody is writing an article on a 45+ year old running 16:45. In fact, to think so it's delusional. It's good, but this sort of stuff happens pretty regular.
Maybe, but someone running 16:45 at 45+ there's a paper trail or digital trail somewhere. Without that, the poster's claims are just that .. claims....not evidence..
Show me the evidence, otherwise it seems unlikely...
OK fair enough to ask someone for evidence of the time they claimed to have run even if we are only talking about a 16:45 5K. But then why earlier on in this thread did you give the benefit of the doubt to a total clown like Antonio Cabral who has made many far more ridiculous claims? This just smacks of double standards.
There IS no USATF Level IV coaching certification. The idea that you claim it, and JS didn't call you out for bullshytting everyone, is a clear sign you are both pathological liars. Honestly, both you and Coach JS are in desperate need of psych evals. Hope you get help soon before you go down the tubes.
Even our own Ghost1 tells sometimes tailes of the unexpected.
But then let it get removed so nobody can call him out on this.
I looked at my quite short time of serious training 6 sessions per week and the fastest I 've done was 300ms interval at 4:48 min/ km, so with my experience of predicting shape and race results doable I decided to go with 5:18- 5:19 min/ km in a 5 k time trial today . So I ran 26:30 min ......I'm pleased with that after 26 years with just sporadic runs and now serious training again . It gets better and better.🧙♂️
Wait a minute here... In your own words you claimed...
The training this week points to I can run a 25 min 5 k now and I will make a try next Saturday to do a TT 5k 25 min
I think you tried to run 25 minute 5k, but blew up a bit. Than damage control and say you decided to go 5:18. Just be honest with yourself, for once.
I looked at my quite short time of serious training 6 sessions per week and the fastest I 've done was 300ms interval at 4:48 min/ km, so with my experience of predicting shape and race results doable I decided to go with 5:18- 5:19 min/ km in a 5 k time trial today . So I ran 26:30 min ......I'm pleased with that after 26 years with just sporadic runs and now serious training again . It gets better and better.🧙♂️
Wait a minute here... In your own words you claimed...
The training this week points to I can run a 25 min 5 k now and I will make a try next Saturday to do a TT 5k 25 min
I think you tried to run 25 minute 5k, but blew up a bit. Than damage control and say you decided to go 5:18. Just be honest with yourself, for once.
Plus we know treadmill are faster than outside, it’s ok not to be in that shape but need to be honest with your assessment of your performance. That way you can measure your improvement and prove whether dancan or Daniels or NSM works. Just saying
I looked at my quite short time of serious training 6 sessions per week and the fastest I 've done was 300ms interval at 4:48 min/ km, so with my experience of predicting shape and race results doable I decided to go with 5:18- 5:19 min/ km in a 5 k time trial today . So I ran 26:30 min ......I'm pleased with that after 26 years with just sporadic runs and now serious training again . It gets better and better.🧙♂️
Wait a minute here... In your own words you claimed...
The training this week points to I can run a 25 min 5 k now and I will make a try next Saturday to do a TT 5k 25 min
I think you tried to run 25 minute 5k, but blew up a bit. Than damage control and say you decided to go 5:18. Just be honest with yourself, for once.
You ' think' alot of things ..... 🤔😉 Firstly one week ago I was thinking sub 25 could be possible out from the relatively short time I've been in serious training, but the days just before my TT I decided to play it safe to be sure getting throug it . I now see it was a good decision due to my heartrate figures in the 26:30 TT. I'm always honest with what I write here( out from when I write it I believe it's the truth)🧙♂️
Wait a minute here... In your own words you claimed...
I think you tried to run 25 minute 5k, but blew up a bit. Than damage control and say you decided to go 5:18. Just be honest with yourself, for once.
You ' think' alot of things ..... 🤔😉 Firstly one week ago I was thinking sub 25 could be possible out from the relatively short time I've been in serious training, but the days just before my TT I decided to play it safe to be sure getting throug it . I now see it was a good decision due to my heartrate figures in the 26:30 TT. I'm always honest with what I write here( out from when I write it I believe it's the truth)🧙♂️
LOL funny you said i think a lot and than saying your thinking a week ago sub 25.
Just days before decided to play safe, but when asked if your were ready the day before TT you said YES!!
What is the point of doing a tt then....
But as we all know in hindsight.... stunning judgment Wizzie.
Wait a minute here... In your own words you claimed...
I think you tried to run 25 minute 5k, but blew up a bit. Than damage control and say you decided to go 5:18. Just be honest with yourself, for once.
Plus we know treadmill are faster than outside, it’s ok not to be in that shape but need to be honest with your assessment of your performance. That way you can measure your improvement and prove whether dancan or Daniels or NSM works. Just saying
Well, I'm pretty sure using the NSM instead of my the DANCAN method in this relatively short serious training hadn't made me run a 26:30 TT by now. But that statement of course we will never know if it's correct or not when I never will try the NSM .🧙♂️