You kind of lost us with your Federer take. Joker has had the longest list of no names in finals that you can imagine. Not his fault, but don't crack on Roger. Novak had one all timer to contend with and that guy is a clay court specialist who could play well on all surfaces at times. So don't throw stones in glass houses. Go look at Novax opponents in finals. Its laughable most of the time. Its unimaginable to win as many majors as he has, but let's be honest, this isnt the late 70s and early 80s.
No my take on Fed. That was Harambe’s.
I appreciate the response. It’s great to have someone to debate who has a pulse. Are you arguing that Fed’s draw early in his career was strong? I take it that you (falsely) think that Nadal was one-dimensional as well?
No, Nadal deserves massive credit as an all time great. But clearly 2/3rds of his wins were clay court making Novax job just a bit easier. I do agree that roger had the same advantages as Novak. I guess thats my argument, can't say Novak is the best all time just because of wins. It was a murderous tour in late 70s and 80s. Imagine McEnroe has but 7 majors! Connors, Lendl, Borg, Sampras were the kind of guys he had to beat. Sigle digit majors these guys.
Yep, this is the crux of the matter, Harambe’s full fury revealed for the world to see. Just like he said on the other thread that he *controls* the entire ruse (like all good progressive Democrats). If Djokovic wins, it’s because of drugs (nevermind Sinner’s actual bust). If he loses, it’s because of long Covid, and Harambe is so bored with life that he’d rather debate this argument that nobody else can “win” while he’s controlling it all day long rather than go do literally anything else.
But, fundamentally, he’s just pissed that he couldn’t convince everyone to get the mRNA vax, most of were right for the “wrong” reasons, and even the former director of the CDC has turned on him. And Djokovic is the flag bearer of that movement so we must demean and denigrate him, even as the 🐐. If these “scientists” could only learn humility and take some ownership. But they won’t. So when we have a real pandemic, it’s going to be a $hitshow.
Nearly 30 pages in and Harambe refuses to debate the GOAT. Telling. It’s becoming obvious that he knows the GOAT is Djokovic, but his irrational hatred of him keeps him from publicly admitting it.
I admit I’m more a a fan of Fed’s game and his personality than of Djokovic. However, I’m human enough to admit that Djokovic is the GOAT. Perhaps one day gorillas will evolve to use intelligence rather than raw emotion when making decisions. Until then, he’s stuck seething in his enclosure watching the tourists mock him.
Yep, this is the crux of the matter, Harambe’s full fury revealed for the world to see. Just like he said on the other thread that he *controls* the entire ruse (like all good progressive Democrats). If Djokovic wins, it’s because of drugs (nevermind Sinner’s actual bust). If he loses, it’s because of long Covid, and Harambe is so bored with life that he’d rather debate this argument that nobody else can “win” while he’s controlling it all day long rather than go do literally anything else.
But, fundamentally, he’s just pissed that he couldn’t convince everyone to get the mRNA vax, most of were right for the “wrong” reasons, and even the former director of the CDC has turned on him. And Djokovic is the flag bearer of that movement so we must demean and denigrate him, even as the 🐐. If these “scientists” could only learn humility and take some ownership. But they won’t. So when we have a real pandemic, it’s going to be a $hitshow.
Nearly 30 pages in and Harambe refuses to debate the GOAT. Telling. It’s becoming obvious that he knows the GOAT is Djokovic, but his irrational hatred of him keeps him from publicly admitting it.
I admit I’m more a a fan of Fed’s game and his personality than of Djokovic. However, I’m human enough to admit that Djokovic is the GOAT. Perhaps one day gorillas will evolve to use intelligence rather than raw emotion when making decisions. Until then, he’s stuck seething in his enclosure watching the tourists mock him.
Exactly. And his impassioned plea that he’s “ok with others disagreeing with him” is incredibly disingenuous in light of his very own admission that, either way, he and HE alone controls the narrative that winning equals doping but losing equals long Covid. And he can’t stop posting about it.
I really hope he’s not that older IU exercise science PhD, because then his lack of humility and narcissism that the very audience he’s trying to reach finds so repulsive really reflects his immaturity. And he’s old enough to know better. He’s old enough to know that there’s a much more productive and effective way to win hearts and minds.
Amazing these guys were ok with Djokovic playing in the 2021 US Open (the final which he lost to Medvedev ~ shudder… I thought Djokovic always won everything before his age out) during essentially the worst of Covid and the Delta strain but then wouldn’t allow him back in the country in 2022, even though he was already convalescent with immunity. These same hypocrites who were just fine with unvetted and unvaxxed illegals just pouring over the southern border into the US but then could do nothing but blame Djokovic for his missed opportunity. And he STILL holds the all time record for slam victories.
Nearly 30 pages in and Harambe refuses to debate the GOAT. Telling. It’s becoming obvious that he knows the GOAT is Djokovic, but his irrational hatred of him keeps him from publicly admitting it.
I admit I’m more a a fan of Fed’s game and his personality than of Djokovic. However, I’m human enough to admit that Djokovic is the GOAT. Perhaps one day gorillas will evolve to use intelligence rather than raw emotion when making decisions. Until then, he’s stuck seething in his enclosure watching the tourists mock him.
Exactly. And his impassioned plea that he’s “ok with others disagreeing with him” is incredibly disingenuous in light of his very own admission that, either way, he and HE alone controls the narrative that winning equals doping but losing equals long Covid. And he can’t stop posting about it.
I really hope he’s not that older IU exercise science PhD, because then his lack of humility and narcissism that the very audience he’s trying to reach finds so repulsive really reflects his immaturity. And he’s old enough to know better. He’s old enough to know that there’s a much more productive and effective way to win hearts and minds.
Amazing these guys were ok with Djokovic playing in the 2021 US Open (the final which he lost to Medvedev ~ shudder… I thought Djokovic always won everything before his age out) during essentially the worst of Covid and the Delta strain but then wouldn’t allow him back in the country in 2022, even though he was already convalescent with immunity. These same hypocrites who were just fine with unvetted and unvaxxed illegals just pouring over the southern border into the US but then could do nothing but blame Djokovic for his missed opportunity. And he STILL holds the all time record for slam victories.
I do control the narrative. That’s correct.
Should you choose to reject the narrative and live in fantasyland, that’s your right.
PS: when you’re crashing out about “unvaxxed illegals” it may be time to log off. It’s just tennis
Yep, this is the crux of the matter, Harambe’s full fury revealed for the world to see. Just like he said on the other thread that he *controls* the entire ruse (like all good progressive Democrats). If Djokovic wins, it’s because of drugs (nevermind Sinner’s actual bust). If he loses, it’s because of long Covid, and Harambe is so bored with life that he’d rather debate this argument that nobody else can “win” while he’s controlling it all day long rather than go do literally anything else.
But, fundamentally, he’s just pissed that he couldn’t convince everyone to get the mRNA vax, most of were right for the “wrong” reasons, and even the former director of the CDC has turned on him. And Djokovic is the flag bearer of that movement so we must demean and denigrate him, even as the 🐐. If these “scientists” could only learn humility and take some ownership. But they won’t. So when we have a real pandemic, it’s going to be a $hitshow.
Nearly 30 pages in and Harambe refuses to debate the GOAT. Telling. It’s becoming obvious that he knows the GOAT is Djokovic, but his irrational hatred of him keeps him from publicly admitting it.
I admit I’m more a a fan of Fed’s game and his personality than of Djokovic. However, I’m human enough to admit that Djokovic is the GOAT. Perhaps one day gorillas will evolve to use intelligence rather than raw emotion when making decisions. Until then, he’s stuck seething in his enclosure watching the tourists mock him.
I agree Fed has a good case to be the goat. I’m sympathetic to arguments from tennis’ golden age, but that was before my time.
I appreciate the response. It’s great to have someone to debate who has a pulse. Are you arguing that Fed’s draw early in his career was strong? I take it that you (falsely) think that Nadal was one-dimensional as well?
No, Nadal deserves massive credit as an all time great. But clearly 2/3rds of his wins were clay court making Novax job just a bit easier. I do agree that roger had the same advantages as Novak. I guess thats my argument, can't say Novak is the best all time just because of wins. It was a murderous tour in late 70s and 80s. Imagine McEnroe has but 7 majors! Connors, Lendl, Borg, Sampras were the kind of guys he had to beat. Sigle digit majors these guys.
One of the issues with the guys you just mentioned is their lack of a well-rounded game. McEnroe, Sampras, Connors couldn’t win on clay, Lendl couldn’t get it done at Wimbledon, Borg at the Open. Borg and Connors skipped the AO most of their career.
I just can’t give a lot of weight to an era where several 17/18 year olds were winning multiple Slams and making the semis and finals.
No, Nadal deserves massive credit as an all time great. But clearly 2/3rds of his wins were clay court making Novax job just a bit easier. I do agree that roger had the same advantages as Novak. I guess thats my argument, can't say Novak is the best all time just because of wins. It was a murderous tour in late 70s and 80s. Imagine McEnroe has but 7 majors! Connors, Lendl, Borg, Sampras were the kind of guys he had to beat. Sigle digit majors these guys.
One of the issues with the guys you just mentioned is their lack of a well-rounded game. McEnroe, Sampras, Connors couldn’t win on clay, Lendl couldn’t get it done at Wimbledon, Borg at the Open. Borg and Connors skipped the AO most of their career.
I just can’t give a lot of weight to an era where several 17/18 year olds were winning multiple Slams and making the semis and finals.
It’s a great point. Winning all of the slams and an Olympic gold really narrows the field, doesn’t it??? Plus, unlike Djokovic, none of them had to deal with Covid, lol, in its first or subsequent iterations.
Exactly. And his impassioned plea that he’s “ok with others disagreeing with him” is incredibly disingenuous in light of his very own admission that, either way, he and HE alone controls the narrative that winning equals doping but losing equals long Covid. And he can’t stop posting about it.
I really hope he’s not that older IU exercise science PhD, because then his lack of humility and narcissism that the very audience he’s trying to reach finds so repulsive really reflects his immaturity. And he’s old enough to know better. He’s old enough to know that there’s a much more productive and effective way to win hearts and minds.
Amazing these guys were ok with Djokovic playing in the 2021 US Open (the final which he lost to Medvedev ~ shudder… I thought Djokovic always won everything before his age out) during essentially the worst of Covid and the Delta strain but then wouldn’t allow him back in the country in 2022, even though he was already convalescent with immunity. These same hypocrites who were just fine with unvetted and unvaxxed illegals just pouring over the southern border into the US but then could do nothing but blame Djokovic for his missed opportunity. And he STILL holds the all time record for slam victories.
I do control the narrative. That’s correct.
Should you choose to reject the narrative and live in fantasyland, that’s your right.
PS: when you’re crashing out about “unvaxxed illegals” it may be time to log off. It’s just tennis
Nah man, if I’m “crashing out” about anything, it’s your hypocrisy, deceit, and megalomaniacal obsession. You are the 🐐of narcissism. It is pretty funny to watch you prove it time and again on pretty much every subject, but especially tennis, a game you knew nothing about until 2020-2021. You know others are right about all this stuff of course, but argue on you do… so be it.
Should you choose to reject the narrative and live in fantasyland, that’s your right.
PS: when you’re crashing out about “unvaxxed illegals” it may be time to log off. It’s just tennis
Nah man, if I’m “crashing out” about anything, it’s your hypocrisy, deceit, and megalomaniacal obsession. You are the 🐐of narcissism. It is pretty funny to watch you prove it time and again on pretty much every subject, but especially tennis, a game you knew nothing about until 2020-2021. You know others are right about all this stuff of course, but argue on you do… so be it.
I know I called him out and goaded him into at least putting up a fight. Yesterday he did for the first time. That ended up being a complete failure for him He was quickly exposed as just a dead gorilla who knows very little about tennis. He needs to go back to “trust me, bro.” That was a much better defense than the absolute garbage that he spewed yesterday. It was an embarrassment.
Harambe, please go back to non-answers and “trust me, bro.” It’s much better than your effort yesterday. lol
One of the issues with the guys you just mentioned is their lack of a well-rounded game. McEnroe, Sampras, Connors couldn’t win on clay, Lendl couldn’t get it done at Wimbledon, Borg at the Open. Borg and Connors skipped the AO most of their career.
I just can’t give a lot of weight to an era where several 17/18 year olds were winning multiple Slams and making the semis and finals.
It’s a great point. Winning all of the slams and an Olympic gold really narrows the field, doesn’t it??? Plus, unlike Djokovic, none of them had to deal with Covid, lol, in its first or subsequent iterations.
I thought Covid was no big deal? Interesting change of tack here
Nah man, if I’m “crashing out” about anything, it’s your hypocrisy, deceit, and megalomaniacal obsession. You are the 🐐of narcissism. It is pretty funny to watch you prove it time and again on pretty much every subject, but especially tennis, a game you knew nothing about until 2020-2021. You know others are right about all this stuff of course, but argue on you do… so be it.
I know I called him out and goaded him into at least putting up a fight. Yesterday he did for the first time. That ended up being a complete failure for him He was quickly exposed as just a dead gorilla who knows very little about tennis. He needs to go back to “trust me, bro.” That was a much better defense than the absolute garbage that he spewed yesterday. It was an embarrassment.
Harambe, please go back to non-answers and “trust me, bro.” It’s much better than your effort yesterday. lol
Wow, that dude absolutely cratered. I’ve enjoyed watching him embarrass himself over the years. But this thread is just 🤌. He doesn’t even know what he’s trying to argue anymore. He’s even proven your own points for you. He’s confirmed he’s a man of no conviction, arguing who isn’t the GOAT across multiple sports, yet never having the courage to make a case himself for his own thoughts on the matter. Never having to stand up and make a statement and back it up with thought and reason. What an absolute coward.
Contrarian, that’s all he is. It’s easy to argue endlessly when you don’t believe anything and move the goal posts every time a point is made. Well done on making that fool chase his own tail here. I’ve never seen him sputter and spew with such a lack of ability to assert himself. He has lost this argument countless times over the years, but hats off to you, I’ve never seen him so flustered and give such lackluster responses. I look forward to his response the same way I did back in august of 2024. A post full of nothing punctuated with I’m so smart that of course I’m right, results be damned.
Nah man, if I’m “crashing out” about anything, it’s your hypocrisy, deceit, and megalomaniacal obsession. You are the 🐐of narcissism. It is pretty funny to watch you prove it time and again on pretty much every subject, but especially tennis, a game you knew nothing about until 2020-2021. You know others are right about all this stuff of course, but argue on you do… so be it.
I know I called him out and goaded him into at least putting up a fight. Yesterday he did for the first time. That ended up being a complete failure for him He was quickly exposed as just a dead gorilla who knows very little about tennis. He needs to go back to “trust me, bro.” That was a much better defense than the absolute garbage that he spewed yesterday. It was an embarrassment.
Harambe, please go back to non-answers and “trust me, bro.” It’s much better than your effort yesterday. lol
I am not the one boomer-ranting about “unvaxxed illegals” in a thread about tennis.
But let’s stay on subject.
Chokervic was one set away from the calendar slam in 2023
It’s a great point. Winning all of the slams and an Olympic gold really narrows the field, doesn’t it??? Plus, unlike Djokovic, none of them had to deal with Covid, lol, in its first or subsequent iterations.
I thought Covid was no big deal? Interesting change of tack here
Quick! Someone get this man some more straws to grasp! He’s drowning!
I know I called him out and goaded him into at least putting up a fight. Yesterday he did for the first time. That ended up being a complete failure for him He was quickly exposed as just a dead gorilla who knows very little about tennis. He needs to go back to “trust me, bro.” That was a much better defense than the absolute garbage that he spewed yesterday. It was an embarrassment.
Harambe, please go back to non-answers and “trust me, bro.” It’s much better than your effort yesterday. lol
Chokervic was one set away from the calendar slam in 2023
You say it like it’s a bad thing. Sounds quite GOATish to me. Lol
Chokervic was one set away from the calendar slam in 2023
You say it like it’s a bad thing. Sounds quite GOATish to me. Lol
It’s a goat level performance if it were over a suitable period of time. Unfortunately he couldn’t sustain such a level of play beyond 2023. Had he… we wouldn’t be having this debate
Quick! Someone get this man some more straws to grasp! He’s drowning!
Covid either is a big deal or it isn’t. Pretty simple logical restriction.
Restriction is correct. There’s nobody that lived in the modern world who’s life didn’t have some level of restriction during the covid era. For once in this entire thread you are right.
You say it like it’s a bad thing. Sounds quite GOATish to me. Lol
It’s a goat level performance if it were over a suitable period of time. Unfortunately he couldn’t sustain such a level of play beyond 2023. Had he… we wouldn’t be having this debate
I remember him losing that Grand Slam at Wimbledon and then watching him win the next very next one in New York. Wild times.
You say it like it’s a bad thing. Sounds quite GOATish to me. Lol
It’s a goat level performance if it were over a suitable period of time. Unfortunately he couldn’t sustain such a level of play beyond 2023. Had he… we wouldn’t be having this debate
He won what 3 different slams, went to the final in another slam and won the Olympic Gold in what? 18 months? At age 36/37? Thats a great career for anyone. In fact, off the top of my head, only two other men in history have won individual Olympic gold and 3 different slams in their entire career.
Another example of the GOAT being the GOAT. Thanks for brining it up.
Covid either is a big deal or it isn’t. Pretty simple logical restriction.
Restriction is correct. There’s nobody that lived in the modern world who’s life didn’t have some level of restriction during the covid era. For once in this entire thread you are right.
1.5 million dead Americans or so. Did people live thru restrictions during WWII?
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