You're either in the 'It was a nothingburger, being blown out of all proportion by desperate Democrats that was probably Biden's fault anyway (P.S. Goldberg should be jailed)' camp or you're a RINO.
I have to say that if Trump and team are able to successfully turn this episode into a nothing burger in the eyes of America with no accountability for anyone this would be a huge leap forward in their quest to make this country a lawless autocracy for themselves.
I have to say that if Trump and team are able to successfully turn this episode into a nothing burger in the eyes of America with no accountability for anyone this would be a huge leap forward in their quest to make this country a lawless autocracy for themselves.
They're really going with: "Don't believe your lying eyes."
The state of "law and order" in this country is quickly becoming: Republicans cannot commit crimes or even be held responsible for unprofessional conduct, but everyone else is potentially subject to indefinite prison sentences in El Salvador, depending on whether they say the wrong thing, have the wrong tattoo, or draw a penis on the wrong car.
This is a scandal that has no precedent. So of course the mods try to delete it.
"I had very strong doubts that this text group was real, because I could not believe that the national-security leadership of the United States would communicate on Signal about imminent war plans. I also could not believe that the national security adviser to the president would be so reckless as to include the editor in chief of The Atlantic in such discussions with senior U.S. officials, up to and including the vice president.
It was the next morning, Saturday, March 15, when this story became truly bizarre.
At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” posted in Signal a “TEAM UPDATE.” I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East, Central Command’s area of responsibility. What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing...
The Signal chat group, I concluded, was almost certainly real. Having come to this realization, one that seemed nearly impossible only hours before, I removed myself from the Signal group, understanding that this would trigger an automatic notification to the group’s creator, “Michael Waltz,” that I had left. No one in the chat had seemed to notice that I was there. And I received no subsequent questions about why I left—or, more to the point, who I was...
I have never seen a breach quite like this. It is not uncommon for national-security officials to communicate on Signal. But the app is used primarily for meeting planning and other logistical matters—not for detailed and highly confidential discussions of a pending military action. And, of course, I’ve never heard of an instance in which a journalist has been invited to such a discussion.
Conceivably, Waltz, by coordinating a national-security-related action over Signal, may have violated several provisions of the Espionage Act, which governs the handling of “national defense” information, according to several national-security lawyers interviewed by my colleague Shane Harris for this story. Harris asked them to consider a hypothetical scenario in which a senior U.S. official creates a Signal thread for the express purpose of sharing information with Cabinet officials about an active military operation. He did not show them the actual Signal messages or tell them specifically what had occurred. All of these lawyers said that a U.S. official should not establish a Signal thread in the first place. Information about an active operation would presumably fit the law’s definition of “national defense” information. The Signal app is not approved by the government for sharing classified information. The government has its own systems for that purpose."
I thought when he hired people with zero experience to head up key parts of the cabinet, it would tale a year for things to be this bad. We literally texted war plans. Big surprise. Measles and polio coming back...big surprise.
And let's not forget that no laws are being broken, according to Trump, if he is saving the country and bringing back the rule of law. Makes perfect sense.
To say this is a bad look is an understatement. Going forward there should be congressional inquiry and accountability. Hegseth and Waltz should resign But with this congress and administration. Expect a week of noise and bluster and then nothing. Goldberg is the one who will now be in the crosshairs.
To say this is a bad look is an understatement. Going forward there should be congressional inquiry and accountability. Hegseth and Waltz should resign But with this congress and administration. Expect a week of noise and bluster and then nothing. Goldberg is the one who will now be in the crosshairs.
Lie. Deny. Deflect. Attack. Repeat.
I suspect Trump will order The Atlantic to fire Goldberg and apologize or face the consequences. Perhaps he will issue an XO declaring The Atlantic to be illegal.
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i mean if hegseth is going to link a professional photo to his signal account why not just throw in his social security number, his passwords, and some biometrics?
You're either in the 'It was a nothingburger, being blown out of all proportion by desperate Democrats that was probably Biden's fault anyway (P.S. Goldberg should be jailed)' camp or you're a RINO.
I don't make the rules. You guys make the rules.
c'mon, be honest, for 40% of the country he could shoot someone on a corner and their vote wouldn't change. which morality is why the country is now running the constitution through a shredder.
and the weird part is it's personal loyalty to his essence independent whether he does any good a job. i guess they like him as lead troll or something.
cause otherwise all this crap reeks of North Korea. Dear Leader is awesome, does nothing wrong, and once had 18 holes in one on his golf round. which if you know how this works, is a loyalty test. they know how they are supposed to answer, which has nothing to do with the facts. and i don't want to ever hear again about their free speech theories, their presentations of self as defenders of the constitution and the republic, because there is literally nothing the man does they will publicly criticize, and for all their false bravado, they cowardly do what the boss says.
Trump has called this the only glitch for the two months he has been president.
the M. Crowd. Is heavily in engaging in whataboutism, trying to attack Goldberg, denying and downplaying. they hope to delay things as long as possible until Trump says or does something that draws attention away from this incident.
Nobody really cares about this incident except the libs, and they cry about everything Trump does anyway. It was certainly an unfortunate mistake, but the intended outcome was not affected at all, therefore nobody really needs to be fired. My advice to the administration is to just say it was a mistake, and to tell the loser liberals to go pound sand. Overall Trump has been fantastic, and it's great to see him shattering the dreams of the libs on a daily basis.
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