Fred Kerley arrested in Miami

8minpace wrote:

been suspicious of him wrote:

Roid rage

I know that many frequenting this website don't like to hear about the plight of the Black man in America, but this would not have happened to a White man in this situation. Fred refused to move his car from a crime scene? Where is that audio? It must be available if the rest of it is, right?

The first thing I saw on the shared video was Kerley and his girl leaving a conversation with an officer, but getting circled by them. The officer initiated contact with Fred, and he could probably claim it was self defense, no? He pushed the officer with the body cam recording the confrontation, got thrown to the ground and fought back. . Once subdued by a taser after reaching his feet, he was handcuffed.

He didn't do anything wrong. The police in this video need to keep their hands to themselves, and speak to people with respect. How do you de-escalate a situation by surrounding someone and putting your hands on them?

"it's the police-you have to respect them!"

No, friend, it's more important in their line of work to respect YOU. The man stating that you have to respect them even when they disrespect you shows the unhealthy power dynamic and inflation of importance within the community. Free Fred.

Belarussiya wrote:

I know a lot of people on this website like to worship track athletes and give them a pass, but there’s so many differences here and I will explain why. He is African American and his mentality is not the same as most of ours. For example, while I don’t like the police I never argue back with them. Fred K. Could have taken the liberty to spend a few minutes of his life to go around the scene , but that was clearly worth the risk of wasting hours/days of your life with the police and legal troubles. I’m a track athlete I can move one foot in front of the other. Well you’re not on the level as someone who moves one foot in front of the other and kicks a ball or runs with a ball. Know your place in the world, nobody knows who you are.

The Klingon wrote:

Belarussiya wrote:

I know a lot of people on this website like to worship track athletes and give them a pass, but there’s so many differences here and I will explain why. He is African American and his mentality is not the same as most of ours. For example, while I don’t like the police I never argue back with them. Fred K. Could have taken the liberty to spend a few minutes of his life to go around the scene , but that was clearly worth the risk of wasting hours/days of your life with the police and legal troubles. I’m a track athlete I can move one foot in front of the other. Well you’re not on the level as someone who moves one foot in front of the other and kicks a ball or runs with a ball. Know your place in the world, nobody knows who you are.

Know your place???? No you didn't go there. F--k you!!!!!

You are absolutely wrong! wrote:

“Fred has weak masculinity, gets too easily threatened with a slight push on his chest and back. A Samson man would easily control his urges and humbly pray to God for inner strength and peace!!!!!!!!!!“

I’ll grant you some truth here but you also know that he is a world class trained athlete, currently one of the best on the planet at nurturing and developing fast explosive busts of strength and energy - IT’S HIS JOB! Conversely it is a “weak masculinity” that is immediately threatened by none compliance and only responds with power over moves. I’ve taught for many years in the classroom with all kinds of different students and if you were to respond aggressively to every slight noncompliance and bit of attitude, you quickly get fired and have chaos. Some - and I say, just “some” police have a disproportionate adversarial attitude - It’s the same in the UK where pushing down a man on the spectrum during a riot, where he was just simply trying to escape the situation resulted in his death not too long ago - Don’t preach to Americans on here about violence ‘Mr. Stadium Squish!’ Fred did not commit a crime and he is not a criminal and has no history of violence or physical confrontation as far as I’m aware of. He was not drunk, on drugs or angry about anything other than being treated like $hit for no reason. Do an experiment- Go up to 10 people randomly and scream and shout in their face, grab their hoodie or jacket, put your open hand on their chest pushing them back and just see what response you get? I guarantee that 9 out of 10 will respond aggressively back to you because that is human nature and normal when threatened. I’ve seen this tactic by police with my own eyes many years ago and narrowly avoided it myself. He should have gone completely silent though I’ll grant you that. It would have made them appear more insane than they were. Those watching were trying to reason with the police but were told to back off and move away. I’m so glad his girlfriend/wife kept yelling “Stop! Stop! Stop!” This whole thing is nonessential and should be dropped and dismissed completely with apologies issued on both sides immediately!

LaFluer wrote:

Newname wrote:

So, in your view, young black males and young white males receive the same treatment from the cops by and large?

Regardless of race, yes people are going to get treated much worse by police if,

1) they cross police lines

2) they start screaming obscenities at police and take a confrontational stance

3) they shove police

4) they commit felonies

5) they have outstanding warrants.

6) they run from the police when told to stay put

7) they resist arrest.

8) they continue to resist arrest when it is obvious and futile to continue to resist

9) they keep resisting even after cuffed.

10) they keep resisting even after being warned they are about to be tased.

11) they are hanging out at a crime scene.

12) they interfere with a police investigation

It is really simple if you open your mind a little and start thinking for yourself and not just be brainwashed by what some sociology professor "taught you".

Some people may even conclude it is all simple commonsense.