How do you prove that a man who has said on social media every single day for 3 years now that he thinks the election was stolen doesn't really believe it?
Hint: You can't.
As has been explained to you, that's not how it works and that's not what the prosecution has to prove.
But one way to prove what naive, mistaken idiots like yourself erroneously believe must be proved, is to put in evidence of Trump saying the exact opposite in private -- Trump saying that he knew he lost the election. There is undoubtedly plenty of that evidence to come (some is in the Indictment), including White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony that Trump repeatedlytold Mark Meadows (Chief of Staff) that he knew he lost the election and that Trump also told John Ratcliffe (Director of National Intelligence) that he lost the election.
Poor Cassidy is not very popular in Trump world any more. Trump called his former employee a "whackjob" and Trump world just plain hates her. I think it was her testimony that Trump threw a plate of spaghetti at the wall that really upset the faithful. Or maybe it was something else . . . .
You haven't read the indictment.
Everyone knows he lost the election. Some people disagree about WHY he lost the election.
Maybe you are right Adult. It might go down like this:
Appeals court opening arguments:
Trump's defense attorney: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury. The govt has the audacity to say that my client "knowingly made false claims". This is the height of absurdity. It is widely known that my client does not know his head from his Azz. How dare the govt make a claim that my client could or would know anything at all. We will demonstrate that my client is a complete imbecile and thought he won.
Judge: Defense is making a logical argument. Trump is an idiot. Go on.
Prosecution: How the hell will we fight this? WE would have to make a claim that trump is not a complete idiot. We are toast.
How do you prove that a man who has said on social media every single day for 3 years now that he thinks the election was stolen doesn't really believe it?
Hint: You can't.
So your logic on this is if someone tells a lie for enough times he must believe it?
Law or proof aside, don't you think Trump knew he lost and just conned America?
How do you prove that a man who has said on social media every single day for 3 years now that he thinks the election was stolen doesn't really believe it?
Hint: You can't.
So your logic on this is if someone tells a lie for enough times he must believe it?
Law or proof aside, don't you think Trump knew he lost and just conned America?
This is the end for Trump. Sure he gets an immediate boost in popularity from Republicans who feel sorry for Trump and anger toward the Dems. Trump is very popular now, but Republicans will grow weary of Trump and the continued bombardment of all facts of his illegal con job. Republican candidates will very very gradually increase criticism of Trump.
Republicans will look elsewhere for a candidate who channels their anger and hate, and who promises a pardon (for the federal charges) for Trump. DeSantis appeals to the angry voter and he might get a gradual resurgence if he can stop being an idiot.
This is the beginning of the end for Trump. His brand of "the winner who owns the libs" is over. Even Melania has jumped ships and is nowhere to be seen to support her husband.
He is a sad loser. All that power he had with the presidency went to his head and was the cause of his demise.
Meadows and Kushner are going to testify against Trump. They’ll talk about not only what he did, but what he failed to do to stop the attack on the Capitol.
It will be painfully obvious that he did nothing for hours because he wanted the proceeding stopped (interfered with) as a step in the overall conspiracy to defraud the people.
That won’t have anything to do with his free speech right to whine about how he lost.
Ultimately it will be a parade of Republicans that will show the jury how guilty Trump is.
Meadows. Pence. Kushner. White House lawyers. Co-conspirators who could flip.
The trial will be like watching the murder of Julius Caesar.
Sure he gets an immediate boost in popularity from Republicans who feel sorry for Trump and anger toward the Dems.
Only the beginning. Trump gets a boost from folks who don’t believe in criminalizing disagreement, i.e. those in favor of Democracy, and will be smashing the War Monger in 24’.
Sure he gets an immediate boost in popularity from Republicans who feel sorry for Trump and anger toward the Dems.
Only the beginning. Trump gets a boost from folks who don’t believe in criminalizing disagreement, i.e. those in favor of Democracy, and will be smashing the War Monger in 24’.
Disagreement is criminal when it involves conspiracy, interfering in government activity, and attempts to defraud the American people, etc.
We have already seen that disagreement is criminal when it involves trespassing, smashing windows, beating police officers with flag poles and spraying them with bear spray, etc.
Only the beginning. Trump gets a boost from folks who don’t believe in criminalizing disagreement, i.e. those in favor of Democracy, and will be smashing the War Monger in 24’.
Disagreement is criminal when it involves conspiracy, interfering in government activity, and attempts to defraud the American people, etc.
We have already seen that disagreement is criminal when it involves trespassing, smashing windows, beating police officers with flag poles and spraying them with bear spray, etc.
No clue what you’re talking about. I clearly remember Trump telling people carrying flags to to go home. people like you are just beside yourself that others have a different opinion. no doubt every single one of you pushing for incarcerating the opposition, still believe in Russia collusion. people like us who knew this was bogus from day 1 are just tired of your nonsense so will put Trump back in office in a landslide in 24’
we’re you referring to Epps when you mentioned the government activity?
Meadows and Kushner are going to testify against Trump. They’ll talk about not only what he did, but what he failed to do to stop the attack on the Capitol.
It will be painfully obvious that he did nothing for hours because he wanted the proceeding stopped (interfered with) as a step in the overall conspiracy to defraud the people.
That won’t have anything to do with his free speech right to whine about how he lost.
Ultimately it will be a parade of Republicans that will show the jury how guilty Trump is.
Meadows. Pence. Kushner. White House lawyers. Co-conspirators who could flip.
The trial will be like watching the murder of Julius Caesar.
Republicans will hold the knives.
Right. It is reported that Trump fought tooth and nail to NOT include the line "remain peaceable". But guess who worked him over and pleaded with him to include it. Ivanka Trump. His daughter had to beg him to add it to the tweet. It is reported that she was in tears.
Guess who is not listed in the indictment in any fashion. Ivanka Trump. She was not only present but she was his daughter and his "chief adviser" by title.
Interesting piece about how none of the family members have supported Trump by being along side him for his indictment. Where is Melania? You don't join your husband for moral support?
Meadows and Kushner are going to testify against Trump. They’ll talk about not only what he did, but what he failed to do to stop the attack on the Capitol.
It will be painfully obvious that he did nothing for hours because he wanted the proceeding stopped (interfered with) as a step in the overall conspiracy to defraud the people.
That won’t have anything to do with his free speech right to whine about how he lost.
Ultimately it will be a parade of Republicans that will show the jury how guilty Trump is.
Meadows. Pence. Kushner. White House lawyers. Co-conspirators who could flip.
The trial will be like watching the murder of Julius Caesar.
Republicans will hold the knives.
Right. It is reported that Trump fought tooth and nail to NOT include the line "remain peaceable". But guess who worked him over and pleaded with him to include it. Ivanka Trump. His daughter had to beg him to add it to the tweet. It is reported that she was in tears.
Guess who is not listed in the indictment in any fashion. Ivanka Trump. She was not only present but she was his daughter and his "chief adviser" by title.
Interesting piece about how none of the family members have supported Trump by being along side him for his indictment. Where is Melania? You don't join your husband for moral support?
Disagreement is criminal when it involves conspiracy, interfering in government activity, and attempts to defraud the American people, etc.
We have already seen that disagreement is criminal when it involves trespassing, smashing windows, beating police officers with flag poles and spraying them with bear spray, etc.
No clue what you’re talking about.
It continues to be obvious who has not read the indictment.
As has been explained to you, that's not how it works and that's not what the prosecution has to prove.
But one way to prove what naive, mistaken idiots like yourself erroneously believe must be proved, is to put in evidence of Trump saying the exact opposite in private -- Trump saying that he knew he lost the election. There is undoubtedly plenty of that evidence to come (some is in the Indictment), including White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony that Trump repeatedlytold Mark Meadows (Chief of Staff) that he knew he lost the election and that Trump also told John Ratcliffe (Director of National Intelligence) that he lost the election.
Poor Cassidy is not very popular in Trump world any more. Trump called his former employee a "whackjob" and Trump world just plain hates her. I think it was her testimony that Trump threw a plate of spaghetti at the wall that really upset the faithful. Or maybe it was something else . . . .
You haven't read the indictment.
Everyone knows he lost the election. Some people disagree about WHY he lost the election.
The Cassidy Hutchinson testimony I just cited isn't in the Indictment. If you had read the Indictment, you'd know that. There's LOTS of evidence against Trump that is not in the Indictment. Stay tuned to this thread for further developments.
Because these are adults. I don’t remember Melania ever banging the gong over your Russia collusion nonsense all the way to today. Ivanka neither. It’s all about nothing. Your dream will end in Nov 24’ in a big way. Americans are just over it. The media has lost its grip. The temper tantrum will go on but the reality is that the vote will happen in 24’ and the bribe taking President has little chance. Just be patient. You can’t rush “the indictment”. We’ve got years to read it but most will just enjoy the theatre in court.
Meadows and Kushner are going to testify against Trump. They’ll talk about not only what he did, but what he failed to do to stop the attack on the Capitol.
It will be painfully obvious that he did nothing for hours because he wanted the proceeding stopped (interfered with) as a step in the overall conspiracy to defraud the people.
That won’t have anything to do with his free speech right to whine about how he lost.
Ultimately it will be a parade of Republicans that will show the jury how guilty Trump is.
Meadows. Pence. Kushner. White House lawyers. Co-conspirators who could flip.
The trial will be like watching the murder of Julius Caesar.
Republicans will hold the knives.
Right. It is reported that Trump fought tooth and nail to NOT include the line "remain peaceable". But guess who worked him over and pleaded with him to include it. Ivanka Trump. His daughter had to beg him to add it to the tweet. It is reported that she was in tears.
Guess who is not listed in the indictment in any fashion. Ivanka Trump. She was not only present but she was his daughter and his "chief adviser" by title.
Interesting piece about how none of the family members have supported Trump by being along side him for his indictment. Where is Melania? You don't join your husband for moral support?
Lol, the fact that a huge part of his defense will be the one tweet for which there is evidence he didn't even want to write tells us a lot. There are 2 1/2 months of a trail of proof of his scheming and criming. This is really hard for the 70% of Rs who still believe in his big lie, but they need to ready themselves for the heartache. He will be found guilty, he will not be reinstated, and he will not win the next election. They can then either move on and accept their loss or continue believing the lie in support of the stone cold loser conman. At this point I don't think most of these folks can be deprogrammed. It's at least 2 generations of R voters who are irretrievably lost. We can only root for the mangling of the GOP so there is a new start.
It is an interesting indictment. I am not convinced that the DOJ will gain a conviction...
Here's the thing. To all the people still saying rEaD tHe iNdiCtMeNt, if you have to tell people to read the indictment, you already lost. (And I think I've read enough of the indictment to make up my mind, but not most of it.) The Founding Fathers believed the law should be simple to understand so it can't be abused. Otherwise how can you expect the average person to follow the law? If person A murders person B, everyone can clearly see how that's a crime. But if it takes 47 pages of legalese to explain how someone broke the law then you don't have a case, you have a witch hunt, IMO.
Allright, this has to be a POE troll. Extremely well played, Mr. Peanut. I'd even say that particular post is brilliant.
