Armstronglivs wrote:
As for those other countries you say are simply "getting on with their lives", they are also getting on with dying and their economies are hardly flourishing. That is the reality of this disease. There is no normal life with Covid..
Scared of your own shadow, eh?
Lmao “The government is backing down/losing control”
I don’t know where you are from but if 400 angry tradies and 600 idiots rioting for the sake of rioting counts as the government losing control other countries like the USA and Uk must be living in a state of perpetual civil war or something.
Also “extreme civil unrest”
Living in Australia I haven’t seen any civil unrest except for the thousand or so people in Melbourne which isn’t extreme in the slightest.
I don’t really know what your media is making the situation in Melbourne seem like but they must have it quite wrong.
Authorities in Australia, and particularly Victoria, have to be in a bit of a panic mode. Despite having among the most strictly enforced lockdowns in the world it appears covid is still spreading more rapidly than ever in Australia.
I think it does stand to reason that if the Australian authorities were properly enforcing the lockdown you shouldn’t be seeing this kind of spread. However, I think the authorities simply are unable to cope with an increasingly defiant population- as seen by case levels.
Wuss alert wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
As for those other countries you say are simply "getting on with their lives", they are also getting on with dying and their economies are hardly flourishing. That is the reality of this disease. There is no normal life with Covid..
Scared of your own shadow, eh?
Indifferent to the loss of 5 million lives world-wide - including those in your own country - eh? So brave. Creep.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-victoria-reports-record-new-covid-19-cases-2021-09-29/Authorities in Australia, and particularly Victoria, have to be in a bit of a panic mode. Despite having among the most strictly enforced lockdowns in the world it appears covid is still spreading more rapidly than ever in Australia.
I think it does stand to reason that if the Australian authorities were properly enforcing the lockdown you shouldn’t be seeing this kind of spread. However, I think the authorities simply are unable to cope with an increasingly defiant population- as seen by case levels.
The US has just surpassed 700,000 deaths. And yet you are obsessed with Australia.
Armstronglivs wrote:
439 wrote:
He is almost 70 and scared of dying. Fvck the rest, is his attitude.
Well we know f*ck the dying is your motto.
Care to corroborate that with any of my posts' content?
Oh, you can't.
Dishonest old cvnt you ;)
I see pretty much normal life here other than shops being open. No one ever sticks to the 5k rule, no masks other than in shops, no police anywhere. It's been that way more or less the whole time. Eastern suburbs are the same. Western Sydney - who knows, never go there. Anyway, as 'freedom' is now a week away, important questions:
Australia seems to be going on authoritarian on the East Side, Example they had a manhunt for someone with COVID who sneezed in the elevator without covering his moith, the news talks about him like he is enemy number 1. Not so much on the west side PERTH in Perth they have sport events with sold out stadiums without masks, I don't know why the difference?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Wuss alert wrote:
Scared of your own shadow, eh?
Indifferent to the loss of 5 million lives world-wide - including those in your own country - eh? So brave. Creep.
8 million kids starve every year.
Where is the big push for them?
There isn't one because their starving is enriching the Oligarchs.
Stop pretending the people running things care about us
439 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Well we know f*ck the dying is your motto.
Care to corroborate that with any of my posts' content?
Oh, you can't.
Dishonest old cvnt you ;)
You just proved it with your dismissive response to my comment about the record number of deaths from Covid in the US (greater than Spanish flu or any war the US has fought). You know all about being a dishonest c*nt.
The Unkle wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Indifferent to the loss of 5 million lives world-wide - including those in your own country - eh? So brave. Creep.
8 million kids starve every year.
Where is the big push for them?
There isn't one because their starving is enriching the Oligarchs.
Stop pretending the people running things care about us
And the oligarchs need a pandemic to get richer? Strange they haven't tried it since Spanish flu in 1918 (did that make them richer? the 20's recession followed), despite numerous recessions and a Great Depression since. The medical profession (not an oligarchy) cares about the loss of human life, as does the person in the street (with the exception of deniers and disaffected nutjobs like yourself).
Perth may as well be another country. Look at the geography of Australia. Perth and Sydney are 2,000 miles apart
anonymoose wrote:
I see pretty much normal life here other than shops being open. No one ever sticks to the 5k rule, no masks other than in shops, no police anywhere. It's been that way more or less the whole time. Eastern suburbs are the same. Western Sydney - who knows, never go there. Anyway, as 'freedom' is now a week away, important questions:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/freedom-interrupted-will-the-liberties-we-lost-to-covid-be-regained-20211001-p58wce.html
I actually believe this.
If the covid restrictions and mandates were actually being followed and enforced then it stands to reason people would be kept apart from each other and Covid cases would fall- this is how contagious diseases work. However, Covid cases are up 10% in Australia from last week and I believe they may be at a record weekly high across the country. What does this all mean? It means “the powers that be” have simply lost the will and/or ability to enforce Covid restrictions.
The same type deal happened in the United States long ago. Despite all the lockdown orders, mask mandates and vaccine mandates from our authorities up in Washington DC and our various state capitals we still led the way in Covid cases and deaths internationally and it isn’t even close. Why? Because our political overlords (many of them senior citizens) didn’t have the will or power to enforce their own mandates. They were, at the end of the day, just tired old men and women.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
439 wrote:
Care to corroborate that with any of my posts' content?
Oh, you can't.
Dishonest old cvnt you ;)
You just proved it with your dismissive response to my comment about the record number of deaths from Covid in the US (greater than Spanish flu or any war the US has fought). You know all about being a dishonest c*nt.
Dismissive response?
Nope.
I just pointed out, correctly, that you don't care about COVID "collateral damage".
So the dishonest cvnt prize is all yours.
439 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You just proved it with your dismissive response to my comment about the record number of deaths from Covid in the US (greater than Spanish flu or any war the US has fought). You know all about being a dishonest c*nt.
Dismissive response?
Nope.
I just pointed out, correctly, that you don't care about COVID "collateral damage".
So the dishonest cvnt prize is all yours.
I said nothing about collateral damage. So you are a liar as well. But as I said, a country that has incurred 700k avoidable deaths is no model for us.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/30/australia/victoria-covid-grand-final-intl-hnk/index.htmlhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/travel/amp/2021/09/28/hoping-for-the-best-australians-react-to-borders-reopening-soonDespite Australia covid cases spiking (10% up from last week, averaging around 1,600 new cases a day and 13 deaths a day) it appears the anti-lockdown protests are working and the Australian government is backing down/losing control.
They are still a long way from being a free society again but if Australians keep pushing they will get there.
In Sydney, no protests.
In Melbourne, protests but they are making zero difference to the road map out.
So what you said is factually 100% wrong, but thanks for your contribution. Sydney’s lockdown finishes in a week. Melbourne’s finishes when they get to 70%, in a few weeks.
douglas burke wrote:
Australia seems to be going on authoritarian on the East Side, Example they had a manhunt for someone with COVID who sneezed in the elevator without covering his moith, the news talks about him like he is enemy number 1. Not so much on the west side PERTH in Perth they have sport events with sold out stadiums without masks, I don't know why the difference?
No covid in Perth. Not hard to work out. WA is pretty isolated.
Looks like Ardern is giving up the fight as well:
Like how they took a page from the right's playbook and deflected the blame to poor people (gangs and homeless) for the failure of the elimination strategy. They still need to double their vaccination rate to be fully open (90% fully vaccinated before re-opening compared to 46% currently vaccinated), so they will reopen next year some time.