whatever feels right=moron wrote:
whatever feels right wrote:
The shirt is in poor taste. There are more people who voted for Trump in California than in any other state except Texas.
LOL!!!!! You lost the election snow flake, get over it honey and move on off to work at McDonald's now.
I voted for Trump you fucking clown did you not read my post?
Trollminator wrote:
So nothing new in the report apparently. Good, so now the Dems can look at the full report (except for obvious classified stuff) and make a determination as to whether they believe there was any obstruction based on the evidence. Mueller refused to give his 2 cents on that. The real drama begins now.
Correct! Still too early to celebrate for the Trumpers.
And, the Mueller's stank is still on a lot of investigations.
This is STILL as true today as ever...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Have you followed politics at all over the last several hundred years? There are so many other investigations going on right now that we will NEVER be done with all of this. These investigations may continue past 2020.
I'll rephrase it for you if you're too effin stupid to interpret. If the Dems strategy is to investigate Trump and his people to a win in 2020 it is a losing strategy with the conclusion drawn by Mueller. At this point, it appears to be what the Dems intend to do.
The Fokus wrote:
agip wrote:
Pelosi said pretty much just this a few weeks ago.
The comments about not impeaching him notwithstanding, the investigations by various committee's will belie what she "pretty much" said. I can understand looking at the full Mueller report which needs to be done but if the plan is to have a parade of witnesses mosey up to appear in front of multiple committees, which I suspect it is at this point, it will have a negative effect on 2020.
the Rs aren't the only party with a base that can be revved up. Keeping Trump's feet to the fire is first off the job of congress and second off a good way to get the D base energized. Rs aren't voting blue anyway. Indies...they'll just vote on whoever they want to have a beer with or whatnot. They aren't issue driven so not so relevant here.
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
So nothing new in the report apparently. Good, so now the Dems can look at the full report (except for obvious classified stuff) and make a determination as to whether they believe there was any obstruction based on the evidence. Mueller refused to give his 2 cents on that. The real drama begins now.
Correct! Still too early to celebrate for the Trumpers.
And, the Mueller's stank is still on a lot of investigations.
This is STILL as true today as ever...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flaggy P should be blocked by the owners of the board for simply being an idiot and a pompous one at that.
The Fokus wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Have you followed politics at all over the last several hundred years? There are so many other investigations going on right now that we will NEVER be done with all of this. These investigations may continue past 2020.
I'll rephrase it for you if you're too effin stupid to interpret. If the Dems strategy is to investigate Trump and his people to a win in 2020 it is a losing strategy with the conclusion drawn by Mueller. At this point, it appears to be what the Dems intend to do.
it is not a losing strategy for Dems in congress to do their job of oversight. It is nobody's job to give the WH free reign to do whatever it wants without congressional oversight.
But sure there is a line. We'l see if the dems can stay on the correct side of it.
agip wrote:
the Rs aren't the only party with a base that can be revved up. Keeping Trump's feet to the fire is first off the job of congress and second off a good way to get the D base energized. Rs aren't voting blue anyway. Indies...they'll just vote on whoever they want to have a beer with or whatnot. They aren't issue driven so not so relevant here.
Good luck with the strategy. It's likely to backfire.
Flagpole wrote:
You just don't like the message, brother, but Trump IS going to go to prison. My prediction of the truth doesn't make me any of the things you mentioned.
If you look at the felony campaign finance law violations alone, he's going to go to prison for that. Michael Cohen is going to prison for that, and Trump directed him to do it. That's just one thing in a sea of many. He's a criminal. He runs a criminal organization. He ran a fraudulent charity. He is on the hook for all kinds of fraud along the lines of what Manafort is going to prison for. You are delusional to think this is over...it's not even close to over.
Again, it was expected that you Trumpers would take a victory lap way too early, and you have. Ignorance is strong with your group. It gives me no joy to say that, because I don't like to have to label a group of people, but, based on your BEHAVIOR, not anything you can't change, it is true.
Mueller is coming (and as I have said for a LONG time...don't challenge me on this or I will prove you wrong as I always do when I am challenged...this includes anything he pawned off to any of the investigators who are looking into Trump and his criminal activities.
The clown is done.
I'm unimpressed.
You just say things. I can just say things too.
But where's the substantiation for your hyperbolic claims? Yes, yes, let's just 'wait and see'... let's just 'wait and see' until the sun explodes...
How many times can a full-grown man cry wolf?
flaggy is one of the most dangerous types of people. he's convinced himself that he's an intellectual based on privilege and tribal identity, very little difference between him and your run of the mill white nationalist.
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
It's good news that the Trump campaign apparently failed in its attempts to collude. We should be happy about that.
Now it's up to the voters, and 2018 showed us that they are not pleased with Trump.
Although it's not over of course - virtually every organization Trump leads or has led is under investigation, and it's already been proven that Trump is a massive tax cheat.
And Mueller and Barr made sure to make it clear that Trump is not exonerated.
Of course the first thing Trump heats after victimizing himself is to announce he was 100% exonerated, while his boy Barr says it does NOT exonerate him. Let the chronic lying continue. Dems will want to weigh in on that determination themselves.
Interesting that Barr made that statement by the way. That’s called covering your a$$.
At least no collusion by any American is a great thing. I wish people were more focused on the proof of Russia’s meddling, but it doesn’t benefit Trump or GOP to admit that. Country remains divided, what’s new?
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
It's good news that the Trump campaign apparently failed in its attempts to collude. We should be happy about that.
Now it's up to the voters, and 2018 showed us that they are not pleased with Trump.
Although it's not over of course - virtually every organization Trump leads or has led is under investigation, and it's already been proven that Trump is a massive tax cheat.
And Mueller and Barr made sure to make it clear that Trump is not exonerated.
We need to see the whole report to know exactly what this all means. Depending on what the report actually says, that will depend on whether the House moves forward with impeachment and what the articles will be about.
Regardless, this much is clear...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Multiple news outlets are reporting that Barr's summary will be given to congress today by 5pm.
Democrats will not accept any conclusion by the Robert Mueller report, by the Congressional investigations or by the Southern District of New York that does not ultimately remove Donald Trump from office. They are deranged to the 100th degree.
Not true for me. I will accept all of the findings as long as there isn't criminal behavior or the aliens from space thing.
I agree that the full Mueller Report and all related documents should be released. That's what Democrats want, so let's give it to them.
And if that happens, will Democrats accept the findings on FISA abuses? The salacious fabrications relating to the Steele Dossier? The coup d'état that CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and NBC will never talk about?
Or better yet, on the topic of there being no collusion, how about the real collusion? That Google may have steered some 3 million votes in Hillary's favor through algorithm changes? Or what about the coordinated efforts between many heads in the IC?
Will the Dems own up to any of the transgressions on their side?
Of course not. Which is why Trump got elected, why Big Tech is hurting, why free speech on college campuses now requires protection through an EO.
The blatant partisanship and hypocrisy is almost amusing. Almost
cucks, cucks everywhere wrote:
I agree that the full Mueller Report and all related documents should be released. That's what Democrats want, so let's give it to them.
And if that happens, will Democrats accept the findings on FISA abuses? The salacious fabrications relating to the Steele Dossier? The coup d'état that CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and NBC will never talk about?
Or better yet, on the topic of there being no collusion, how about the real collusion? That Google may have steered some 3 million votes in Hillary's favor through algorithm changes? Or what about the coordinated efforts between many heads in the IC?
Will the Dems own up to any of the transgressions on their side?
Of course not. Which is why Trump got elected, why Big Tech is hurting, why free speech on college campuses now requires protection through an EO.
The blatant partisanship and hypocrisy is almost amusing. Almost
troll
The Fokus wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Have you followed politics at all over the last several hundred years? There are so many other investigations going on right now that we will NEVER be done with all of this. These investigations may continue past 2020.
I'll rephrase it for you if you're too effin stupid to interpret. If the Dems strategy is to investigate Trump and his people to a win in 2020 it is a losing strategy with the conclusion drawn by Mueller. At this point, it appears to be what the Dems intend to do.
Calm down millennial.
Mueller investigated Obstruction (no conclusion there) and Conspiracy (not enough evidence does not mean ZERO evidence).
The other investigations were just outside his scope.
I’ve said before....the money is with....the money.
Trump has zero chance of winning in 2020. Zero. None. Zilch. Again my offer stands if anyone wants to put some money on the line, or an embarrassing video, whatever your poison. Dare ya!!
The Mueller Report simply wont move the needle. His approval will still be in the high 30s to low 40s regardless. Independents aren’t magically going to flock to his corner.
Mark my words, the only thing keeping his 2020 prospects above water is the economy, which will tank before Election Day 2020. You can save this post now and revisit later.
I’ve also said before, it’s all about turnout. I haven’t voted since 2008 and I’m gonna vote this time around. For anyone other than Trump.
Alan
cucks, cucks everywhere wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You just don't like the message, brother, but Trump IS going to go to prison. My prediction of the truth doesn't make me any of the things you mentioned.
If you look at the felony campaign finance law violations alone, he's going to go to prison for that. Michael Cohen is going to prison for that, and Trump directed him to do it. That's just one thing in a sea of many. He's a criminal. He runs a criminal organization. He ran a fraudulent charity. He is on the hook for all kinds of fraud along the lines of what Manafort is going to prison for. You are delusional to think this is over...it's not even close to over.
Again, it was expected that you Trumpers would take a victory lap way too early, and you have. Ignorance is strong with your group. It gives me no joy to say that, because I don't like to have to label a group of people, but, based on your BEHAVIOR, not anything you can't change, it is true.
Mueller is coming (and as I have said for a LONG time...don't challenge me on this or I will prove you wrong as I always do when I am challenged...this includes anything he pawned off to any of the investigators who are looking into Trump and his criminal activities.
The clown is done.
I'm unimpressed.
You just say things. I can just say things too.
But where's the substantiation for your hyperbolic claims? Yes, yes, let's just 'wait and see'... let's just 'wait and see' until the sun explodes...
How many times can a full-grown man cry wolf?
Crying wolf is only apropos if there are two things present:
1) The one crying wolf is putting forth a lie.
2) People are fooled by said lie.
Neither of the two things are in play here. #2 can't happen is #1 isn't true.
I have been clear on the substantiation. Trump has already been fingered in TWO FELONIES. His criminal Trump Organization is being looked at by the SDNY. There are 17 investigations going on right now that directly involve him, most of which were spawned by the Mueller investigation.
He has lied to you AGAIN with his first tweet since this came out:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1109918388133023744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1109918388133023744&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fpolitics%2Flive-news%2Frobert-mueller-report-summary%2Findex.htmlNice. Certainly NOT, and actually specifically stated NOT "total exoneration".
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Runningart2004 wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
I'll rephrase it for you if you're too effin stupid to interpret. If the Dems strategy is to investigate Trump and his people to a win in 2020 it is a losing strategy with the conclusion drawn by Mueller. At this point, it appears to be what the Dems intend to do.
. I haven’t voted since 2008
Alan
WTF. Seriously. WTF.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Calm down millennial.
Alan. You're an idiot. I'm probably older than you.
agip wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
. I haven’t voted since 2008
Alan
WTF. Seriously. WTF.
Exactly.
Runningart2004 wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
I'll rephrase it for you if you're too effin stupid to interpret. If the Dems strategy is to investigate Trump and his people to a win in 2020 it is a losing strategy with the conclusion drawn by Mueller. At this point, it appears to be what the Dems intend to do.
Calm down millennial.
Mueller investigated Obstruction (no conclusion there) and Conspiracy (not enough evidence does not mean ZERO evidence).
The other investigations were just outside his scope.
I’ve said before....the money is with....the money.
Trump has zero chance of winning in 2020. Zero. None. Zilch. Again my offer stands if anyone wants to put some money on the line, or an embarrassing video, whatever your poison. Dare ya!!
The Mueller Report simply wont move the needle. His approval will still be in the high 30s to low 40s regardless. Independents aren’t magically going to flock to his corner.
Mark my words, the only thing keeping his 2020 prospects above water is the economy, which will tank before Election Day 2020. You can save this post now and revisit later.
I’ve also said before, it’s all about turnout. I haven’t voted since 2008 and I’m gonna vote this time around. For anyone other than Trump.
Alan
This. Any findings by Mueller and any continued action by Dems to keep looking isn’t going to cause any Independents or moderates to suddenly like Trump. None of that is also going to change Trump’s strategy of doubling down on the far right base instead of shifting to the center to try to build on the 46%. How is he going to get more votes??? The Dems remain energized and there is no question whoever didn’t like Trump before find him that much more repulse now. What’s going to change? It remains for the Dems to somehow lose, but Trump has given them a massive head start.