The Shadow Provisional Government-in-Exile respectfully demands the resignation of the US Government (i.e. Trump/Pence).
Madam Speaker Pelosi, please issue a formal statement of acceptance & be duly sworn in as President.
The Shadow Provisional Government-in-Exile respectfully demands the resignation of the US Government (i.e. Trump/Pence).
Madam Speaker Pelosi, please issue a formal statement of acceptance & be duly sworn in as President.
Little Green Men wrote:
Flagpole’sonly chance of giving the highest I til you so in the history of the internet is now the aliens coming.
At this moment he is furiously scanning the sky for UFOs.
Darn autocorrect.
Flagpole’s onlychance of giving the biggest I told you so in the history of the internet is now the aliens coming.
At this moment he is furiously scanning the sky for UFOs.
Bad intel in bad intel out.
We respectfully nominate Hon. Robert Mueller as VP. All other positions should follow as directed by the US Constitution & subsequent precedent.
Watch Mueller become target #1 of Dems. He will be smeared beyond belief
Shaquille O’Neal installed on Papa John’s Board to reply to neo-Nazis.
Nose Dame wrote:
Watch Mueller become target #1 of Dems. He will be smeared beyond belief
I do think he needs to be supeonaed to explain this to Congress.
Helicopters provide only coverage of London. Trump stopped tweeting.
Gospodin Putin, please designate a provisional leader & resign.
Slightly off topic, but how long do you think it has been since Melania spread her legs for Donald?
Nose Dame wrote:
Watch Mueller become target #1 of Dems. He will be smeared beyond belief
Before he submitted his report, Mueller was always referred to on every MSNBC show as "the Honorable Bob Mueller" and Morning Joe and Mika would go on for 15 minutes about how Mueller is a true patriot, his integrity is beyond question, how Mueller has served the country his whole life, blah blah blah. Will be curious come Monday morning what Mika and Joe have to say. On the Joy Reid show (I shudder even saying I am watching this) all the guests are downplaying the significance of the Bob Mueller report, how it was targeting only very specific crimes, and how Congress should have been conducting investigations long, long ago. It is a comedy routine.
We respectfully demand Putin’s immediate resignation.
I think this is all rather hilarious. People already saying the report had nothing it in when the report hasn’t even been released.
People saying Flagpole was wrong when there are like a dozen other investigations going on.
I think Jr and Kushner are still in legal jeopardy with the SDNY. I will be interesting to see the actual report since Jr lied to Congress and he’s not indicted. Is that being wrapped up with other charges in other districts?
The bar for conspiracy was always high and Flagpole has been overplaying his hand with the other charges he thinks will be coming. I just don’t think there will be enough evidence to indict on most of what Flagpole thinks will happen.
What I see:
1. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator on felony campaign finance violations. That’s a fact they cannot be argued against.
2. Bank fraud as it relates to Deutsche Bank. This is becoming even more clear.
Those two seem pretty cut and dry. Of course that’s not “collusion”.
Stone may be shown to have conspired with Russian intelligence via Wikileaks....but did Trump know? Again no conspiracy directly with Trump. Remember what Guiliani said about members of the campaign conspiring doesn’t mean Trump did. Plausible deniability.
Either way, Trump loses in a landslide of historic proportions in 2020 and loses TX :)
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
I think this is all rather hilarious. People already saying the report had nothing it in when the report hasn’t even been released.
People saying Flagpole was wrong when there are like a dozen other investigations going on.
I think Jr and Kushner are still in legal jeopardy with the SDNY. I will be interesting to see the actual report since Jr lied to Congress and he’s not indicted. Is that being wrapped up with other charges in other districts?
The bar for conspiracy was always high and Flagpole has been overplaying his hand with the other charges he thinks will be coming. I just don’t think there will be enough evidence to indict on most of what Flagpole thinks will happen.
What I see:
1. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator on felony campaign finance violations. That’s a fact they cannot be argued against.
2. Bank fraud as it relates to Deutsche Bank. This is becoming even more clear.
Those two seem pretty cut and dry. Of course that’s not “collusion”.
Stone may be shown to have conspired with Russian intelligence via Wikileaks....but did Trump know? Again no conspiracy directly with Trump. Remember what Guiliani said about members of the campaign conspiring doesn’t mean Trump did. Plausible deniability.
Either way, Trump loses in a landslide of historic proportions in 2020 and loses TX :)
Alan
Not a chance, you democrat piece of trash. Trump will be easily re-elected. Democrats are totally out of touch with patriotic Americans.
https://theweek.com/articles/830443/why-are-2020-democrats-weirdDemocrats lose again!!!
We advise Russians to retreat to Moscow in accordance with precedent of 1812 & 1941.
I never gave much weight on a potential Mueller report because it is submitted to Barr who was just appointed by Trump after and in response to the investigation.
It’s either vanilla or some of it will be kept from Congress and the public.
But the investigation unearthed criminal associates of Trump plus a whole lot of evidence and cooperation that has not it to the public as of yet.
Obstruction of justice - Part of impeachment. Up to Pelosi. The firing of Comey could be grounds for this and if Trump coordinated with Manafort not to snitch then would count.
Money laundering - That can be found in Cohen’s records. There may be a sealed indictment now since they have a policy of not indicted a sitting president.
Perjury - Trump would perjure himself in 5 seconds if he ever testified
Suborning perjury - Can’t be proven. Won’t be charged.
Conspiracy- The heart of the investigation. He probably had a enough buffers or simply accepted the help without a formal partnership. He seemed to conspire in public. May be hard to convict on that even if it happened.
Bank and/or wire fraud - See money laundering.
Insurance fraud - He clearly overstated his assets if he used that to insure anything.
Emoluments clause - That was made just for him
Witness tampering - The public statements about Cohen’s inlaws right before he was to testify was pretty blatant.
RICO - Trump ordered Cohen to do the crimes he’s going to jail for. If he could be indicted right now, he would be.
All of those things above would not likely be in Mueller’s report to the DOJ but Congress can impeach on many of them and subpoena Mueller to testify.
If Pelosi passes on impeachment, he can be charged when he is out of office, though there is no law that says he can’t be charged now, only a policy that it would be unprecedented.
The public does not know what Flynn's cooperation was.
We don’t know what Gates’ cooperation was.
We don’t know all of Cohen evidence.
And I don’t know if those items at in the Mueller report or have been transferred to SDNY or somewhere else.
This report is not close to a finality.
Runningart2004 wrote:
I think this is all rather hilarious. People already saying the report had nothing it in when the report hasn’t even been released.
People saying Flagpole was wrong when there are like a dozen other investigations going on.
I think Jr and Kushner are still in legal jeopardy with the SDNY. I will be interesting to see the actual report since Jr lied to Congress and he’s not indicted. Is that being wrapped up with other charges in other districts?
The bar for conspiracy was always high and Flagpole has been overplaying his hand with the other charges he thinks will be coming. I just don’t think there will be enough evidence to indict on most of what Flagpole thinks will happen.
What I see:
1. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator on felony campaign finance violations. That’s a fact they cannot be argued against.
2. Bank fraud as it relates to Deutsche Bank. This is becoming even more clear.
Those two seem pretty cut and dry. Of course that’s not “collusion”.
Stone may be shown to have conspired with Russian intelligence via Wikileaks....but did Trump know? Again no conspiracy directly with Trump. Remember what Guiliani said about members of the campaign conspiring doesn’t mean Trump did. Plausible deniability.
Either way, Trump loses in a landslide of historic proportions in 2020 and loses TX :)
Alan
Trump loses in a landslide of historic proportions in 2020? Are you going to guarantee that a la Flagpole? Or is just going to be an empty boast with nothing backing it? Well, I believe George Washington won 100% of the electoral votes in 1789 and 1792. Is Trump's opponent going to match that in his epic win?
Hard to believe wrote:
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
I would wait until the full report comes out to pound Flagpole. No new indictments though is a very good start for us. But it isn’t over yet.
Flagpole is a cnn/msnbc guy who just overreacts and embellishes everything.
I can't believe Donald Jr is not going to be indicted over the Trump Tower meeting. What other proof does Mueller need to see that crimes were committed. Then Jr calls his daddy right after the meeting. Yeah right, no collusion.
I guess we can say the same thing about Hillary, so why am I crying. She lied to Congress so many times he nose should have exploded.
L L wrote:
I never gave much weight on a potential Mueller report because it is submitted to Barr who was just appointed by Trump after and in response to the investigation.
It’s either vanilla or some of it will be kept from Congress and the public.
But the investigation unearthed criminal associates of Trump plus a whole lot of evidence and cooperation that has not it to the public as of yet.
Obstruction of justice - Part of impeachment. Up to Pelosi. The firing of Comey could be grounds for this and if Trump coordinated with Manafort not to snitch then would count.
Money laundering - That can be found in Cohen’s records. There may be a sealed indictment now since they have a policy of not indicted a sitting president.
Perjury - Trump would perjure himself in 5 seconds if he ever testified
Suborning perjury - Can’t be proven. Won’t be charged.
Conspiracy- The heart of the investigation. He probably had a enough buffers or simply accepted the help without a formal partnership. He seemed to conspire in public. May be hard to convict on that even if it happened.
Bank and/or wire fraud - See money laundering.
Insurance fraud - He clearly overstated his assets if he used that to insure anything.
Emoluments clause - That was made just for him
Witness tampering - The public statements about Cohen’s inlaws right before he was to testify was pretty blatant.
RICO - Trump ordered Cohen to do the crimes he’s going to jail for. If he could be indicted right now, he would be.
All of those things above would not likely be in Mueller’s report to the DOJ but Congress can impeach on many of them and subpoena Mueller to testify.
If Pelosi passes on impeachment, he can be charged when he is out of office, though there is no law that says he can’t be charged now, only a policy that it would be unprecedented.
The public does not know what Flynn's cooperation was.
We don’t know what Gates’ cooperation was.
We don’t know all of Cohen evidence.
And I don’t know if those items at in the Mueller report or have been transferred to SDNY or somewhere else.
This report is not close to a finality.
So?
