Official US-Israel-Iran War Thread

please, i feel very uncomfortable agreeing with legweakdis.

The same Egypt and Jordan that wanted to destroy Israel in 1948? I doubt they would stopped after taking back "stolen" land in 1973.

You cannot blow the snot out of another country even if you have the firepower without that whole region if not the whole world descending into chaos or at least impacted in a big way. Especially in an assymetric war with people that have nothing to lose

These are threats. I see a stalemate with slow release of pressures and then people eventually 'forget' what happenned. Trump is already trying to pretend everything is normal.

From the future. Last picture of Trump.

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Iran Oil is flowing rapidly unaffected paid with Bitkoin via costal channels within a few kilometers from the shoreline very easily to Pakistan and India out to the international open sea. Close to shore is not international waters.

Domestically the US will adapt to a Human Rights platform by the end of 2026.

Politicians, News Media, leaders will be replaced with Human Rights advocates.

It's all for the best.

This is very optimistic. 37+% of the US believes whatever Trump tells them to believe today and they'll forget yesterday's beliefs to do it. They are willing to cheat in elections and stage a mob coup if it doesn't go their way. They are fine with US citizens killed by ICE and children detained, starved, and refused medical treatment.

That same percentage of the country believes that human rights are "woke", therefore evil. They turned on the pope for saying tyrants shouldn't be waging war abroad.

The only thing that likely stops this is massive economic pain domestically that they associate with Trump. Trump is doing his best to make that a reality with the Iran war. Pump prices are up, but that will soon permeate into the cost and scarcity of goods. Even that probably isn't enough because their media bubble is telling them this is a divine war and Trump is their messiah.

At this point, the US becoming like the Russian authoritarian state that kills journalists and political foes seems as likely as going back to a nation where politicians tell little lies but are generally lawful.

I predict that US/Israel will launch a massive attack before the end of this upcoming week.

Russia? No. Like Israel.

I have one hundred percent faith in real world success stories than in ivy league academic wannabes in our diplomatic cores. Real life success is relevant to this in every way.

You mean the same Egypt and Jordan who tried to come to the rescue of the 700k + Palestinians being violently expelled from their homes by the Zio Euro Jews who were stealing it?

Yeah!!!

Real world: Golf course developers and silver spooners like Jared (and Donald).

Fake world: Advancing the interests of your country with every other country in the world. Especially in comparison to building golf courses and spending daddy’s money, what a shallow and simple and instantly perfected task that must be.

….funny, too, given that Jared looks like the poster boy for the effete Ivy League diplomat type that you’re mocking. Except that we know that he has NONE of the associated training or experience.

Can't wait to see what he caves on this Tuesday. I'm betting he will suddenly call off the blockade to entice IRAN to open the strait.

The Lego Videos have consistently been more accurate than the White House press secretary and other "official" sources.

nbcnews.com

Iran caused more extensive damage to U.S. military bases than publicly known

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U.S. bases and equipment across the Middle East came under attack — including from an Iranian F-5, despite American air defenses — and repairs could cost billions of dollars.

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"American military bases and other equipment in the Persian Gulf region suffered extensive damage from Iranian strikes that is far worse than publicly acknowledged and is expected to cost billions of dollars to repair, according to three U.S. officials, two congressional aides and another person familiar with the damage."

Over 100 U.S. targets across 7 countries were hit by Iran, including Camp Buehring in Kuwait which was struck by an Iranian F-5 marking the first time an enemy fixed-wing aircraft has struck an American military base in years.

Remember this one they dropped a few weeks ago?

It's an active war for now. We'll soon need DNA Ancestry Lab industry to sort out which illegal occupiers get to move back to their European homeland. Isn't this exciting!

The time is nearing for Trump to surrender this war. Iran isn’t phased. They have won. Bombing the sh*t out of them didn’t work. Killing their leaders didn’t work. Trying to blackmail them didn’t work. So what’s next for the Trumpster? He’s gotten owned by Iran. He ignored the warnings from past presidents that declaring war on Iran is a losing proposition. Now the rest of the world is scrambling to clean up the mess Trump created.

Ha! Jared went to Harvard you idiot!

Estimates are that Iran has until the end of this week to get oil out of the Straits before it is in a position where it will have to start shutting in production due to it maxing out its oil storage capacity. Iran has offered to open the straits if the US agrees to end combat and engage in negotiations over the nuclear issue. There have been proposals going back and forth regarding a suspension of enrichment with the US proposing a 20 year ban and Iran coming back with 5 years. But right now, there are no plans for face to face negotiations. Trump said Iran could "telephone" the US to negotiate and did not need to meet face to face. The press interpreted this as an invitation to restart negotiations. But it was probably Trump just talking like Trump always does.

Araghchi met with Putin in Russia over the weekend. All Russia has to offer Iran is intelligence at this point and China probably has better spy satellite info to share with Iran.

Oil prices are surging again with Brent pushing $110 and WTI headed to $100. Economic fallout from the surge in oil prices, shortages of plastics, fertilizers and other refined products from Middle East oil and gas are starting to show up. China's auto sales dropped by almost 25% in March. Emerging markets, especially in Asia, are seeking sharp drops in economic activity.

The war is right now in a game of economic chicken. US equities are holding off a correction primarily because the traditional safe havens are no longer safe havens. Bonds are surging, gold is down, and the dollar is weak (but has been worse). So Trump looks at the markets and thinks that he has all the cards. But every day that goes buy with the straits closed just sends more second and third order effects into the economy. Fertilizer and plastics shortages will mean more expensive toys and other consumer goods just in time for Christmas shopping and the cost of animal feed will go up when farmers do not plant as much or have worse yields for crops planted in the summer for fall and winter harvest. Trump does not care about these effects because he probably does not have anyone who is telling him about them. Lutnick and Bessent are two of Trump's biggest sycophants and have been doing interviews where they tell everyone that gas is cheap.

Also, the cost of the war to US is actively being concealed. NBC reported that Iran's attacks on US bases in the Middle East cause massive amounts of damage and left many bases all but destroyed and unusable. Casualty figures may also be completely bogus. The cost of combat operations is also being hidden.