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JustMe22 wrote:
You left out something interesting, and it's definitely a thing: the two parties have practically switched sides on key positions.
Reagan-era conservatives:
* Were in favor of illegal immigration (or, "undocumented" in common parlance). It kept businesses profitable, and they didn't care if it hurt American workers without college degrees.
* Opposed free speech. Reagan appointed Edwin Meese (an evangelical) to be his Attorney General. In 1984, Meese released a scathing report detailing the harmful effects of pornography.
* Thought America's might was largely a factor of its military dominance and the strong influence of large corporations.
All three of these positions are now identified with the democratic party, with some degree of variation and for slightly different reasons, to be fair.
That's why Dems are trying to ban books, even dictionaries, from school libraries... oh, wait.
And the third one is definitely still a GOP position. Dems believe in soft power of America.
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JustMe22 wrote:
We aren't a democracy, we're a Republic (we elect leaders to run govt, not put everything to a vote where the majority rules)...and there's a lot of clever word thinking in how the term is applied in a modern context.
Such an ignorant phrase. And so widely used.
1) Being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive. As a result, the phrase makes no sense whatsoever.
"A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica, is a state in which political power rests with the public through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy." - Wikipedia
"Republic - A government in which the supreme power belongs to the citizens through their right to vote" - Merriam Webster
Democracy - a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting" - Merriam Webster
Now, if you don't mind (and I know you do) please try to learn a few things. First, try to learn the definitions above. Democracy does NOT mean that every decision must be voted on directly by every citizen. And being a republic is not in any way opposed to being a democracy.
Finally, learn that saying, "We aren't a democracy, we're a Republic" is moronic.
Thank you.
This has been a public service announcement brought to you by the people who aren't overly fond of morons advertising themselves as such.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
That's why Dems are trying to ban books, even dictionaries, from school libraries... oh, wait.
And the third one is definitely still a GOP position. Dems believe in soft power of America.
You mean like Mark Twain, Dr. Seuss, etc. ?
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Real Obvi wrote:
JustMe22 wrote:
We aren't a democracy, we're a Republic (we elect leaders to run govt, not put everything to a vote where the majority rules)...and there's a lot of clever word thinking in how the term is applied in a modern context.
Such an ignorant phrase. And so widely used.
1) Being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive. As a result, the phrase makes no sense whatsoever.
"A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica, is a state in which political power rests with the public through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy." - Wikipedia
"Republic - A government in which the supreme power belongs to the citizens through their right to vote" - Merriam Webster
Democracy - a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting" - Merriam Webster
Now, if you don't mind (and I know you do) please try to learn a few things. First, try to learn the definitions above. Democracy does NOT mean that every decision must be voted on directly by every citizen. And being a republic is not in any way opposed to being a democracy.
Finally, learn that saying, "We aren't a democracy, we're a Republic" is moronic.
Thank you.
This has been a public service announcement brought to you by the people who aren't overly fond of morons advertising themselves as such.
I used to play this game...even up until last week. And in Europe you'd be correct.
But upon reflection, in America we've changed the meaning of the word 'republic' to mean 'constitutional representative democracy.'
That's what people mean when they say 'america is a republic not a democracy' so I think we should just go with it. Even though those who say that are being sloppy.
but in europe and elsewhere, saying 'america is a republic not a democracy' makes zero sense.
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agip wrote:
I used to play this game...even up until last week. And in Europe you'd be correct.
But upon reflection, in America we've changed the meaning of the word 'republic' to mean 'constitutional representative democracy.'
That's what people mean when they say 'america is a republic not a democracy' so I think we should just go with it. Even though those who say that are being sloppy.
but in europe and elsewhere, saying 'america is a republic not a democracy' makes zero sense.
If one accepts your definition; 'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy' then not only is it true that being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive but much more than this; it means that a nation being a republic absolutely guarantees that it is also a democracy.
Thus, the phrase 'we aren't a Democracy, we're a Republic' is INCORRECT with 100% certainty (not to mention moronic).
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Real Obvi wrote:
If one accepts your definition; 'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy' then not only is it true that being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive but much more than this; it means that a nation being a republic absolutely guarantees that it is also a democracy.
Thus, the phrase 'we aren't a Democracy, we're a Republic' is INCORRECT with 100% certainty (not to mention moronic).
Our let’s run right wingers are a bit behind on their groups talking points. .
yesterdays “we aren’t a democracy we are a republic”. Has been replaced with “it wasn’t rape it was only sexual assault”.
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Bidenomics continues to batter & bruise millions of tushies. FAIL.
#FJB
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Sleepy Joe called our troops "stupid bastards"
#FJB
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Tea Party Trevor wrote:
Has anyone noticed the emergency national crisis of terrorists, rapists invading the country at the southern border has become a non-issue all of the sudden on Fox News?
I guess this national emergency can wait until closer to election time now that Trump says to not do anything to solve it.
Poor Grandma and Grandpa. They were all worked up about incoming caravans and now nothing.
Grandma and Grandpa who never have and never will come within 3 states of the border, no less !!
Nonetheless, SCARY !!!!
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Real Obvi wrote:
agip wrote:
I used to play this game...even up until last week. And in Europe you'd be correct.
But upon reflection, in America we've changed the meaning of the word 'republic' to mean 'constitutional representative democracy.'
That's what people mean when they say 'america is a republic not a democracy' so I think we should just go with it. Even though those who say that are being sloppy.
but in europe and elsewhere, saying 'america is a republic not a democracy' makes zero sense.
If one accepts your definition; 'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy' then not only is it true that being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive but much more than this; it means that a nation being a republic absolutely guarantees that it is also a democracy.
Thus, the phrase 'we aren't a Democracy, we're a Republic' is INCORRECT with 100% certainty (not to mention moronic).
ok here's the full m'aga word definition list.
To interpret m'agaspeak, know thee the following:
'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy'
and
'democracy' means 'pure democracy in which everyone votes on each law passed.'
If you accept these alternative m'agaworld definitions, then indeed 'America is a republic not a democracy.'
I wish they hadn't done this, but they have. And arguing word definitions is kind of a waste of time. We know what the m'agas are trying to say so let's just move on.
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At this rate, I predict by Wednesday the right wing as a group will settle in on the talking point that Taylor Swift is a deep state operative and the entire NFL season is nothing more than an elaborate plan to hurt Trump from getting elected.
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Tea Party Trevor wrote:
At this rate, I predict by Wednesday the right wing as a group will settle in on the talking point that Taylor Swift is a deep state operative and the entire NFL season is nothing more than an elaborate plan to hurt Trump from getting elected.
I'll take that bet
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agip wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
If one accepts your definition; 'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy' then not only is it true that being a republic and being a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive but much more than this; it means that a nation being a republic absolutely guarantees that it is also a democracy.
Thus, the phrase 'we aren't a Democracy, we're a Republic' is INCORRECT with 100% certainty (not to mention moronic).
ok here's the full m'aga word definition list.
To interpret m'agaspeak, know thee the following:
'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy'
and
'democracy' means 'pure democracy in which everyone votes on each law passed.'
If you accept these alternative m'agaworld definitions, then indeed 'America is a republic not a democracy.'
I wish they hadn't done this, but they have. And arguing word definitions is kind of a waste of time. We know what the m'agas are trying to say so let's just move on.
Yeah, well, that's great, you STILL haven't explained "g."
Some Deep State code word? Maybe the trigger for another witch hunt against poor Don?
Or is "g" for gender, as in "Let's take over all the bathrooms!" ???
Whatever it is, it's SCARY. Come clean!
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Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Close the damn border.
#FJB
No COVID ???
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Nnonequals wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Close the damn border.
#FJB
No COVID ???
Or groomers? Have you been overplaying the threat of GROOMERS ??
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Nnonequals wrote:
agip wrote:
ok here's the full m'aga word definition list.
To interpret m'agaspeak, know thee the following:
'republic' means 'constitutional representative democracy'
and
'democracy' means 'pure democracy in which everyone votes on each law passed.'
If you accept these alternative m'agaworld definitions, then indeed 'America is a republic not a democracy.'
I wish they hadn't done this, but they have. And arguing word definitions is kind of a waste of time. We know what the m'agas are trying to say so let's just move on.
Yeah, well, that's great, you STILL haven't explained "g."
Some Deep State code word? Maybe the trigger for another witch hunt against poor Don?
Or is "g" for gender, as in "Let's take over all the bathrooms!" ???
Whatever it is, it's SCARY. Come clean!
you're going to laugh.
I wrote a criticism of 22's 'America is a republic not a democracy' and then had the epiphany that it was a semantic debate not a political science debate. And 22 had been whining about my fact checks.
So in order to stop a semantic debate from developing and to make friends with 22, I erased my text. You can't delete a post so I just erased what I wrote and replaced it with a G.
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