Chico is a ONE MAN show. Sorry they are only good for 9th or 10th.
Chico is a ONE MAN show. Sorry they are only good for 9th or 10th.
one man show? hahaha idiot
first of all, mankato and mines were top 7 last year, and obviously mankato wasnt ready to race at griak, and mines wasnt peaking for conference, crappy teams like whoever you listed will race well early in the year and run well cause they dont have good coaches, the best teams run well at nationals, nothing else matters and you spent a whole paragraph talking about one runner in which your reasoning is absolute crap cause you obviously know nothing about him or either program
are u serious??
I think he is seroius, Griak was what, a month and a half ago? I'm pretty sure all of their guys were tired from 2 workouts that week prior to that race. It makes a big difference to race tired than to race fresh. I love how we talk our conference up, instead of tearing other conferences down. Maybe you guys should take a page from our book..... SO many terrible attitudes. The funny thing it is probably mostly coming from alumni who miss their glory days (if they had them). and are bitter that their team may or may not have been ranked fairly in an OPINION POLL
I meant are u serious about the Chico is a one man show they are only good for ninth or tenth! They got 6th last year with all sophmores and frosh...
You could argue that any team was a one man show if they had Bauhs on it!
central wrote:
How can Mines be a top 10 team if their regional ranker does not even think that they are better than Mankato? Mankato got beat by Drury and Pitt State! None of the other top 10 teams have a race like that yet. With a race that Mines put up at RMAC, there is no way that their point total at national would be anywhere close to what you are predicting. You already have 10 guys ahead of Zywicki from the RMAC. Guaranteed that with at race like that that both Harding and Abilene put at least 5 guys ahead of him each. Now he's at best 21st. But Chico, Queens and Anchorage likely have 2 each. Now he's 27th at best. This doesn't count all of the good individuals from Edinboro, Western Washington, Slippery Rock (if they qualify), Stonehill, the SC guys. 30 is very generous with an effort like RMAC. Yes, he has raced better throughout the year, and so a 30th wouldn't surprise me too much. But in those other races where he ran better, there was a much bigger differential between him and his teammates. If he runs 30th, no way do they come back with a 35,40,45, and 65. There are way too many good guys that you are not taking into consideration.
I do think that Mines will be higher than 14th at nationals but not by the rationale that you supplied above. Also, when you say "I'll gladly take my money on a Metro, Augustana, Highlands vs a SW Baptist, Stonehill, Wayne State", how do you explain Augustana getting beat by Drury, Pitt State, and SW Baptist at Griak? The South Central is dramatically improved depth wise compared to the past. Unfortunately we won't get to see all of them race at nationals against the 6 central region teams since we only get 3 spots.
My top 20
1-5. ASC, ACU, Harding, WSC, Chico
6-10. Queens, Anchorage, Lowell, S.Indiana, Grand Valley
11-15. WWU, Mines, Edinboro, Stonehill, Mankato
16-20. SW Baptist, Pitt St, Missouri So, Metro, Wayne St
Can you tell me the Pack Average times for Adams Western and Mines from the RMAC race??? Well I can, its 25:09 for Adams, 25:42 for Western, and 26:18 for Mines.
So you are saying that there are only 2 teams between Western and Adams in the Country and 10 teams between mines and Western, lets also go over race results.
You admitted Zywiki had a bad race so lets say the pack split average dros to 26:08 only 10 seconds faster. You are telling me that 10 teams fit in between that range. Try again buddy.
My guess is you are just looking for a reason to bump someone out of the top 10 because they one bad race, even though for Three years they have proved everyone wrong. If you can give me more and better reasons why they should be 14th then go ahead.
The pack split of Mines would drop 10 seconds if Zywicki had a better race. Thats what I meant to say.
thats bs, he couldnt drop the pack split 10 seconds, your saying that zwicki is better than 2 western guys and a couple adams guys who hes never even smelled in a race
Alright lets say Zywicki races like that at Nationals, Your saying that there are 10 teams between western and Mines over 30 seconds. This means there are ten teams whose average pack split is between this number. That makes a Team every 3 seconds. The math still does not add up.
i was only talking about zwicki, your right on the team scoring, especially with an altitude conversion mines is definitely top 10... mines just doesnt have the really fast runners to be top 5 though
Actually I said said that there were only 7 teams between WSC and Mines. It may be less if Chico or Queens can jump WSC.
You are still saying that there are Team averages every 4 seconds between Western and Mines. That would be a really tight race. I just don't think those numbers make sense.
idiot wrote:
one man show? hahaha idiot
you mean SMART. CHICO= 10th place. WAY OVER RATED
so are you just pissed your team is ranked behind them?
groovytoto wrote:
idiot wrote:one man show? hahaha idiot
you mean SMART. CHICO= 10th place. WAY OVER RATED
why the hate, dude, clearly you are trying to piss someone off. chico is obviously way better
groovytoto wrote:
you mean SMART. CHICO= 10th place. WAY OVER RATED
what exactly are you basing this off of? I would say the most vulnerable Chico team to go to the national meet with the potential to finish any place worst than top 8 was last years team and they got what, 6th?
Seriously, I doubt you have anything to base this off. The team only produces a top-six finish most every year and has one of the best 10k runners in the country. Try again.
Well...First of all the South Central only gets three teams this year...So your prediction including ACU, SW Bap., Pitts. St. AND Miss So. cannot come true...I can only hope the Wayne State you included is the one in Michigan and not the Nebraska team that will race in the Central region (and fail to qualify)...You only have 5 teams from the Central listed, so I assume you think the 6th qualifying team will not make the top 20...Care to place a significant wager on that one?
Also...individuals do not count in the team scoring---I'm sure you knew that---so my thoughts on Zywicki being 30th would mean he runs somehere in the top 40 finishers (which he did last year)...Even if Mines scores 250 -270...that still gets them in the top 10.
If the top 7 runners at Pac10 raced against the top 7 runners at DII nationals who do you think would win?
I would have my money on DII for sure?
Wondering :/ wrote:
If the top 7 runners at Pac10 raced against the top 7 runners at DII nationals who do you think would win?
I would have my money on DII for sure?
Woops, disregard the ? after for sure.