The Police State Has Arrived

Nobody in the U.S gives a crap about Ireland and the “migrant” takeover that is occurring there. Troops have arrived in that swamp D.C. let’s clean it up!

Trumpers always care deeply about Democrat states while leaving their own states and cities high and dry. Like Tulsa.

It’s scary to think how bad these places would be if red states weren’t heavily subsidized by blue states.

If you are suddenly scared about crime in a city that is at a 30 year low in violent crime, perhaps you’ve just gotten old and fearful.

I'm not a Trump voter (registered independent) but I have to say I'm not a fan of the liberal response to this. It seems like the two biggest points I see made are "But DC crime has been dropping" or "MAGA's are too scared to be in the city". Both arguments seem very "crime tolerant " to me.

What level of murders, assaults, carjackings should be acceptable? Is 200 murders a year ok? 500? Is 300 carjackings ok? What about 1000? Wouldn't it be better to approach it with the philosophy that zero violent crime is acceptable?

Once again, complete and total evasion. Unlike you, I can formulate my own opinion on the policies I support and don't need to deflect. No level of violent crime is acceptable! But violent crime is a job for the police, not the United States military. If there were ongoing, totally out of control riots in D.C., that would be one thing. But that's obviously not the case here.

The precedent that YOU are currently supporting is that any amount of crime, anywhere, is enough to justify wartime operations in American cities.

Sending in the military to stand around the national mall for authoritarian photo-ops will not suddenly result in the end of all violent crime in D.C. It will, however, waste taxpayer dollars and create civil unrest.

Those are not the fcking questions! You think 300 carjackings a year in a large city justifies deploying the military and commandeering state/local authority? Are you insane?

If you think zero violent crime should be the primary goal of society, then why don't we just require government surveillance cameras inside every home and tracking chips under everyone's skin? Mandatory 24/7 body cams for everyone, courtesy of Uncle Sam. Freedom is oh so dangerous, isn't it?

Democrats will never allow it.

Tulsa's mayor is a black Democrat.

Crime is dropping and overdoses are dropping. Whether or not people want to admit it, the crack down on the border, Trump’s trade war and the deportation of criminals are a part of this phenomenon.

Does OKC have a Home Rule Act?

They were there to protect ICE personnel and federal facilities.

Tell me libs, since you have all suddenly become in favor of states rights, does this mean you would support an overturning of Obergefell v Hodges?

What, you guys don't support installing police/military surveillance cameras inside every home? You don't want the federal government to inject everyone with tracking chips? You must be PRO CRIME!

We cannot expect that sending the military into American cities will permanently solve crime. The problem is too large. We need these additional measures or else crime will continue. How many carjackings will it take before you acknowledge the necessity of what I am proposing? If you're a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to fear! After all, no crime is acceptable.

Tulsa's mayor is a black Democrat.

Do you think that nine students not being allowed to enter a school warrants sending the 101st Airborne Division into Little Rock?

Do I think a state government deploying the national guard to enforce discrimination against black children warrants federal intervention? Yes, I do, Mr. Goebbels. Now, since I answered your question, perhaps you can answer some of mine.

At what point does "crime" merit a declaration of a public emergency, the unprecedented seizure of local law enforcement and use of the military to establish domestic order? In what way does overall crime in D.C. rise to level of a natural disaster, a terrorist attack, or out-of-control ongoing riots? What, specifically, needs to happen for this "emergency" to be lifted? Why has this only become an emergency NOW? Even if the crime numbers (which are at 30-year low) are "fake," there has not been any sudden, dramatic increase in crime. It's just a whim! Based on the rationale currently being provided, what prevents this from being used in any city, anywhere, anytime Trump feels like it?

It's never been clearer that so-called small government conservatives, even self-described libertarians, actually love to see state power deployed, and civil liberties put under threat, as long as they don't see themselves as potential targets (and the only way that using the military to "fight crime" is going to work is by suspending some people's basic liberties).

The kinds of people piping up in this thread don't sound like they would ever defend the basic rights of people and groups whose politics they don't like. They are free to prove me wrong.

This is a problem for a certain kind of liberal too, but lib hypocrisy is far less brazen than what we're now hearing from people who were, five minutes ago, decrying basic public health measures (that were implemented in every society on earth, and are now gone) as the leading edge of fascism, and yet who now welcome the presence of federal troops on city streets as a sensible measure to address routine urban criminality (that could be reduced by simply addressing cavernous social inequality).

The 101st Airborne Division is not the National Guard.

Nonetheless, you support federal troops occupying cities NOT under Home Rule Act.

Double standards.

We need a few good men like Orville Faubus right now.

Faubus was a Democrat.