A perfect VP pick
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Trollminator wrote:
A perfect VP pick
Maybe Rand Paul for VP? I see he was the lone vote against repossession of Russian funds. He is Putins Senator on all issues and Vlad would reward this move handsomely
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Trollminator wrote:
A perfect VP pick
You are obsessed with the guy just as you are with DT. This is NOT the Matt Gaetz thread.
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Any normal country would ostracize this 'conservative' member of congress and have him work in menial labor for the rest of his life. Or just go grow cabbages. He advocated for martial law to keep trump in power after losing the election. Absolutely zero cost to him in the Republican Party. And he says it was the right thing to do. These people are terrible Americans. They failed the test. These are the people who will happily end democracy in America for Trump.
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) has just one regret regarding a text message he sent to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows three days before Joe Biden’s inauguration, urging Donald Trump to invoke “Marshall Law”: that he spelled it wrong.
Just over three years later, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Norman if he would have liked to have done things differently. The answer, apparently, was not really.
“You were urging the White House to use the U.S. military to prevent the peaceful transfer of power,” Collins said. “Do you regret sending that message?”
Norman, who was one of nearly 150 Republicans in Congress who voted to reject the 2020 presidential election results, wasn’t apologetic.
“The only thing I regret: I misspelled ‘martial law,’” he said.
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Day 25 of the joint Putin+Republican Party offensive against Europe.
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agip wrote:
Any normal country would ostracize this 'conservative' member of congress and have him work in menial labor for the rest of his life. Or just go grow cabbages. He advocated for martial law to keep trump in power after losing the election. Absolutely zero cost to him in the Republican Party. And he says it was the right thing to do. These people are terrible Americans. They failed the test. These are the people who will happily end democracy in America for Trump.
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) has just one regret regarding a text message he sent to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows three days before Joe Biden’s inauguration, urging Donald Trump to invoke “Marshall Law”: that he spelled it wrong.
Just over three years later, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Norman if he would have liked to have done things differently. The answer, apparently, was not really.
“You were urging the White House to use the U.S. military to prevent the peaceful transfer of power,” Collins said. “Do you regret sending that message?”
Norman, who was one of nearly 150 Republicans in Congress who voted to reject the 2020 presidential election results, wasn’t apologetic.
“The only thing I regret: I misspelled ‘martial law,’” he said.
Martial law is meant to restore order. You don't have like the military or thank veterans for their service...but you don't have to trash people who serve their country, either. (Which, to be fair, you didn't...)
Here's an example of an article that leads to this kind of outrage porn:
We don't have the text messages, so we also don't know for certain that this rep wanted soldiers to keep Trump in power. When Trump used federal agents to enforce consequences for the people in progressive states who treated it like the wild west, that wasn't why he was doing it. He was doing it because they were committing crimes with impunity. Many of them receive trials, were acquitted and/or were released without charges (you can hold someone for 72 hours without a writ of habeas corpus, or reason for holding them...and, as an aside, Abraham Lincoln suspended this right during his administration when the Civil War was raging, so he's more dictator-like that the person you seem to despise more than everyone else in this country)
Lastly, when was the last time someone in an opposition party apologized and was granted forgiveness? Can you think of a simple example? Here are are a couple on the Dem side: Elliot Spitzer, former Attorney General and shoe-in for governor, if he didn't have the habit of cheating on his wife with prostitutes. In the same state, Mario Cuomo. His office is now occupied by Kathy Hochol, and his Presidential ambitions are worthless.
Tldr; you get nowhere apologizing, and it is used as an admission of guilt. Trump figured this out a long time ago. Hence, he never does it.
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wokeness is prevalent in education wrote:
Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
Figures
Education makes people woke. I went to a "relatively" apolitical business school for my undergrad that's gotten far woker nowadays and woke ideology was shoved down our throats in even the late 2000s. Those who were less free-minded couldn't resist.
I think educated people are voting against Trump for reasons that don't have anything to do with wokeness.
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JustMe22 wrote:
agip wrote:
Any normal country would ostracize this 'conservative' member of congress and have him work in menial labor for the rest of his life. Or just go grow cabbages. He advocated for martial law to keep trump in power after losing the election. Absolutely zero cost to him in the Republican Party. And he says it was the right thing to do. These people are terrible Americans. They failed the test. These are the people who will happily end democracy in America for Trump.
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) has just one regret regarding a text message he sent to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows three days before Joe Biden’s inauguration, urging Donald Trump to invoke “Marshall Law”: that he spelled it wrong.
Just over three years later, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Norman if he would have liked to have done things differently. The answer, apparently, was not really.
“You were urging the White House to use the U.S. military to prevent the peaceful transfer of power,” Collins said. “Do you regret sending that message?”
Norman, who was one of nearly 150 Republicans in Congress who voted to reject the 2020 presidential election results, wasn’t apologetic.
“The only thing I regret: I misspelled ‘martial law,’” he said.
Martial law is meant to restore order. You don't have like the military or thank veterans for their service...but you don't have to trash people who serve their country, either. (Which, to be fair, you didn't...)
Here's an example of an article that leads to this kind of outrage porn:
We don't have the text messages, so we also don't know for certain that this rep wanted soldiers to keep Trump in power. When Trump used federal agents to enforce consequences for the people in progressive states who treated it like the wild west, that wasn't why he was doing it. He was doing it because they were committing crimes with impunity. Many of them receive trials, were acquitted and/or were released without charges (you can hold someone for 72 hours without a writ of habeas corpus, or reason for holding them...and, as an aside, Abraham Lincoln suspended this right during his administration when the Civil War was raging, so he's more dictator-like that the person you seem to despise more than everyone else in this country)
Lastly, when was the last time someone in an opposition party apologized and was granted forgiveness? Can you think of a simple example? Here are are a couple on the Dem side: Elliot Spitzer, former Attorney General and shoe-in for governor, if he didn't have the habit of cheating on his wife with prostitutes. In the same state, Mario Cuomo. His office is now occupied by Kathy Hochol, and his Presidential ambitions are worthless.
Tldr; you get nowhere apologizing, and it is used as an admission of guilt. Trump figured this out a long time ago. Hence, he never does it.
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
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Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
JustMe22 wrote:
Martial law is meant to restore order. You don't have like the military or thank veterans for their service...but you don't have to trash people who serve their country, either. (Which, to be fair, you didn't...)
Here's an example of an article that leads to this kind of outrage porn:
We don't have the text messages, so we also don't know for certain that this rep wanted soldiers to keep Trump in power. When Trump used federal agents to enforce consequences for the people in progressive states who treated it like the wild west, that wasn't why he was doing it. He was doing it because they were committing crimes with impunity. Many of them receive trials, were acquitted and/or were released without charges (you can hold someone for 72 hours without a writ of habeas corpus, or reason for holding them...and, as an aside, Abraham Lincoln suspended this right during his administration when the Civil War was raging, so he's more dictator-like that the person you seem to despise more than everyone else in this country)
Lastly, when was the last time someone in an opposition party apologized and was granted forgiveness? Can you think of a simple example? Here are are a couple on the Dem side: Elliot Spitzer, former Attorney General and shoe-in for governor, if he didn't have the habit of cheating on his wife with prostitutes. In the same state, Mario Cuomo. His office is now occupied by Kathy Hochol, and his Presidential ambitions are worthless.
Tldr; you get nowhere apologizing, and it is used as an admission of guilt. Trump figured this out a long time ago. Hence, he never does it.
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
The real question is what is so reprehensible about people like yourself that half the country considers people like this to be a much better alternative.
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Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
JustMe22 wrote:
Martial law is meant to restore order. You don't have like the military or thank veterans for their service...but you don't have to trash people who serve their country, either. (Which, to be fair, you didn't...)
Here's an example of an article that leads to this kind of outrage porn:
We don't have the text messages, so we also don't know for certain that this rep wanted soldiers to keep Trump in power. When Trump used federal agents to enforce consequences for the people in progressive states who treated it like the wild west, that wasn't why he was doing it. He was doing it because they were committing crimes with impunity. Many of them receive trials, were acquitted and/or were released without charges (you can hold someone for 72 hours without a writ of habeas corpus, or reason for holding them...and, as an aside, Abraham Lincoln suspended this right during his administration when the Civil War was raging, so he's more dictator-like that the person you seem to despise more than everyone else in this country)
Lastly, when was the last time someone in an opposition party apologized and was granted forgiveness? Can you think of a simple example? Here are are a couple on the Dem side: Elliot Spitzer, former Attorney General and shoe-in for governor, if he didn't have the habit of cheating on his wife with prostitutes. In the same state, Mario Cuomo. His office is now occupied by Kathy Hochol, and his Presidential ambitions are worthless.
Tldr; you get nowhere apologizing, and it is used as an admission of guilt. Trump figured this out a long time ago. Hence, he never does it.
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
He wanted Federal troops there to keep order. Depending on who you believe, he requested them from Pelosi and was denied, or never made the request. In either case, you need a "jump to conclusions" mat to get to yours.
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agip wrote:
Day 25 of the joint Putin+Republican Party offensive against Europe.
Reagan era Republicans would be shocked and severely disappointed.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
The real question is what is so reprehensible about people like yourself that half the country considers people like this to be a much better alternative.
I have many flaws of personality, and it appears you do, too. What exactly about what I said made you call me reprehensible? Because it's Thursday, I save all my represensibilty for the weekend, for your information.
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JustMe22 wrote:
Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
He wanted Federal troops there to keep order. Depending on who you believe, he requested them from Pelosi and was denied, or never made the request. In either case, you need a "jump to conclusions" mat to get to yours.
Let's be perfectly honest, Trump lost worthiness of any benefit of the doubt a long time ago
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it is fun (and a bit sad) to watch the right wingers bounce between these two opinions with the goal of minimizing Right wingers and Trump's awfulness.
1. Trump most certainly was not involved in a coup. He can't be responsible for what a handful of Jan 6th protesters did. They were let in! It certainly was not an insurrection of any type. Just a little rowdy protest. You need a military for a coup and insurrection!
2. Just because there were plans and calls for Martial law that is nothing really. Martial law is a big nothing burger.
Definition of Martial law
Martial law is the replacement of civilian government by military rule and the suspension of civilian legal processes for military powers. Martial law can continue for a specified amount of time, or indefinitely, and standard civil liberties may be suspended for as long as martial law continues.
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JustMe22 wrote:
Tristan Da Cunha wrote:
Agip is 100% right. A person advocating martial law to keep Trump in power not only has no right to be in elected office but those who pretend that behavior is okay really shouldn't be in power either. They can not be entrusted to protect our laws.
There is no justification for this. Others being forgiven for other crimes or not is completely irrelevant.
What's wrong with these people?
He wanted Federal troops there to keep order. Depending on who you believe, he requested them from Pelosi and was denied, or never made the request. In either case, you need a "jump to conclusions" mat to get to yours.
Another poster that evidently has not read the indictments nor the Jan 6th report.
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Tea Party Trevor wrote:
JustMe22 wrote:
He wanted Federal troops there to keep order. Depending on who you believe, he requested them from Pelosi and was denied, or never made the request. In either case, you need a "jump to conclusions" mat to get to yours.
Another poster that evidently has not read the indictments nor the Jan 6th report.
The chief of the Capitol police says he asked for the National Guard and was refused.
The Capitol police answered to the board which answered to Pelosi and McConnell leading up to 1/6.
The January 6th report is partisan garbage. They deleted evidence for a reason.
It will be years if ever before this fact enters your cult bubble.
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JustMe22 wrote:
agip wrote:
Any normal country would ostracize this 'conservative' member of congress and have him work in menial labor for the rest of his life. Or just go grow cabbages. He advocated for martial law to keep trump in power after losing the election. Absolutely zero cost to him in the Republican Party. And he says it was the right thing to do. These people are terrible Americans. They failed the test. These are the people who will happily end democracy in America for Trump.
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) has just one regret regarding a text message he sent to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows three days before Joe Biden’s inauguration, urging Donald Trump to invoke “Marshall Law”: that he spelled it wrong.
Just over three years later, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Norman if he would have liked to have done things differently. The answer, apparently, was not really.
“You were urging the White House to use the U.S. military to prevent the peaceful transfer of power,” Collins said. “Do you regret sending that message?”
Norman, who was one of nearly 150 Republicans in Congress who voted to reject the 2020 presidential election results, wasn’t apologetic.
“The only thing I regret: I misspelled ‘martial law,’” he said.
Martial law is meant to restore order. You don't have like the military or thank veterans for their service...but you don't have to trash people who serve their country, either. (Which, to be fair, you didn't...)
Here's an example of an article that leads to this kind of outrage porn:
We don't have the text messages, so we also don't know for certain that this rep wanted soldiers to keep Trump in power. When Trump used federal agents to enforce consequences for the people in progressive states who treated it like the wild west, that wasn't why he was doing it. He was doing it because they were committing crimes with impunity. Many of them receive trials, were acquitted and/or were released without charges (you can hold someone for 72 hours without a writ of habeas corpus, or reason for holding them...and, as an aside, Abraham Lincoln suspended this right during his administration when the Civil War was raging, so he's more dictator-like that the person you seem to despise more than everyone else in this country)
Lastly, when was the last time someone in an opposition party apologized and was granted forgiveness? Can you think of a simple example? Here are are a couple on the Dem side: Elliot Spitzer, former Attorney General and shoe-in for governor, if he didn't have the habit of cheating on his wife with prostitutes. In the same state, Mario Cuomo. His office is now occupied by Kathy Hochol, and his Presidential ambitions are worthless.
Tldr; you get nowhere apologizing, and it is used as an admission of guilt. Trump figured this out a long time ago. Hence, he never does it.
Great post.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Tea Party Trevor wrote:
Another poster that evidently has not read the indictments nor the Jan 6th report.
The chief of the Capitol police says he asked for the National Guard and was refused.
The Capitol police answered to the board which answered to Pelosi and McConnell leading up to 1/6.
The January 6th report is partisan garbage. They deleted evidence for a reason.
It will be years if ever before this fact enters your cult bubble.
Your kind was taking this same approach with Nixon, but history is pretty conclusive and what stuck was the truth. You can adopt opinions of right wing nutsos all you want but it won't change the facts.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
The chief of the Capitol police says he asked for the National Guard and was refused.
The Capitol police answered to the board which answered to Pelosi and McConnell leading up to 1/6.
The January 6th report is partisan garbage. They deleted evidence for a reason.
It will be years if ever before this fact enters your cult bubble.
Your kind was taking this same approach with Nixon, but history is pretty conclusive and what stuck was the truth. You can adopt opinions of right wing nutsos all you want but it won't change the facts.
Exactly. The bipartisan Jan 6th report is made up of eyewitness Testimony from Trumpers and Trump staff under oath. Trumpers cry foul at the word bipartisan because the Right wingers on the committee broke with the cult. That makes them Democrat deep state in their world.
The deleted documents were duplicates. That is how Trump knows what was deleted. Trump admitted in a court filing that he can't cite any specific documents or has any idea what they might be to support his claims of deletion as a form of cover up of exonerating evidence. It is simply right wing propaganda and delay tactic. And because it is right wing propaganda, Adolt is all in on it and the rest of the planet is in a bubble.
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The Biden Boom Continues
Growth exceeding that during the Trump administration.
Jan. 25, 2024, 8:33 a.m. ET
The U.S. economy continued to grow at a healthy pace at the end of 2023, capping a year in which unemployment remained low, inflation cooled and a widely predicted recession never materialized.Gross domestic product, adjusted for inflation, grew at a 3.3 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, the Commerce Department said on Thursday.
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