2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Hits them with the 'totally false' and no logical reasoning....

If I've paid my dues by staying on LetsRun for 14 years, would I respected as a college coach? I didn't think so.

Turned Left wrote:

In NCAA track female student-athletes make up 51% of athletes, but just 18% of head coaches and 28% of assistant positions [that oversee women’s programs – men’s staff numbers don’t bear repeating]. Of those women’s programs, minority women make up 40% of female rosters, yet only 4% of head coaching jobs in women’s track. As you can ascertain from these numbers, that means (predominately white) men hold approximately 80% of all positions on the field. Your own compliance office submits these numbers annually, this is all available online.

Nice numbers. How many women vs men apply for the jobs? I believe the pool is higher for men.

What kind of a role should potential pregnancy play in the consideration of a 20-something year old woman? Is there a statistic on an average of say 6-8 years, and the percentage of female coaches that got pregnant? If not, maybe there should be.

You sound intelligent, so I think these numbers and issues will be easily understood.

Spellcheck wrote:

The majority of your statement is false. Check your facts before you talk such bad trash.

Yep it’s all false. That’s why he successfully sued EWU and the athletes that accused him. Oh wait he just said those things to the media and had no intention of ever doing it because he’s a hot headed blow hard who has never walked a walk in his life.

What else? He was fired by Helen, everybody knows that. He was fired at EWU that’s just a fact. His teams got progressively worse at EWU by measure of their conference finish that’s again just a fact.

You wish these things aren’t true, Don’t Waste Your Wishes baby.

I have been in the same conference as Shane and his behavior at meets, with coaches, and with athletes is less than desirable. I found the one thing was he was very immature and socially inept. He was not well respected by his peers. And yes, without question he got the jobs because of his father and his fathers reputation. With so many great young coaches out there wanting a chance and deserving a chance I do not know why anyone would hire him. He got a second chance already at EWU and it ended poorly. From everything I have seen and heard, he did not learn from his first failure at San Francisco, and went to EWU and did the same stuff. At some point you have to learn from your mistakes.

Once again it's not what you know, it's who you know.

I don’t know why we are talking about Shane like he just needs to learn from his mistakes. He’s a 40 year old man who you can only count on to show up 15 minutes late with a bag of McDonalds in his hand. Pretty sure the hay is in the barn at this point.

I want to thank you Shane, whoever you are, for taking everyone's mind off me.

You do know men play a role in pregnancy, but I realize this is LetsRun and there may not be a good understanding of reproduction around here.

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

Right turn at Albuquerque wrote:

Nice numbers. How many women vs men apply for the jobs? I believe the pool is higher for men.

What kind of a role should potential pregnancy play in the consideration of a 20-something year old woman? Is there a statistic on an average of say 6-8 years, and the percentage of female coaches that got pregnant? If not, maybe there should be.

You sound intelligent, so I think these numbers and issues will be easily understood.

You do know men play a role in pregnancy, but I realize this is LetsRun and there may not be a good understanding of reproduction around here.

Irrelevant point. And your comment about a misunderstanding of reproduction, is an example that you don't get the point.

someone oughta give this shane guy some beef stew

Right turn at Albuquerque wrote:

And your comment about a misunderstanding of reproduction, is an example that you don't get the point.

You wrote that sentence, can you explain what it means? (I think I know what it means... But the totally irrelevant comma in the middle makes me wonder if you do)

How irrelevant was it? Totally?

I don't blame Carl for this. He didn't write the release. This definitely seems like the work of an ego and power hungry McDaniel: Why, in the press release does it say that "Caughell By The Numbers" and list 11 National Qualifiers, 2 NCAA Relays, etc...

Carl was a volunteer for a program that produced those things. I am sure that he is a capable coach. He got great experience at NAU and then got his 1st fulltime gig in Louisiana. Do not lie and put his name attached to all of those things. I was a volunteer for a team with multiple NCAA Qualifiers, an NCAA Champ, etc... I cannot fathom taking credit for or putting those things on my resume. c'mon Sac State, you should be better than this.

Pogo wrote:

Right turn at Albuquerque wrote:

And your comment about a misunderstanding of reproduction, is an example that you don't get the point.

You wrote that sentence, can you explain what it means? (I think I know what it means... But the totally irrelevant comma in the middle makes me wonder if you do)

Let me try & explain how I interpreted this...men understand that they need to be foregoing having children when they go into coaching. You'd be nuts to try & raise a family/be the main breadwinner & go into this profession. ESPECIALLY if you're going to need to be out 1 - 2 months to have said child. Do women understand this?

Shadow Lurker wrote:

ESPECIALLY if you're going to need to be out 1 - 2 months to have said child. Do women understand this?

And now, how long is a new mother out? Keep in mind, this is a coach who has administrative/recruiting/coaching duties.

WCU has narrowed their applicants to 3 according to a conversation had with the head of the search. No names given

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WCU will re open their search after all 3 candidates turn down 43k.