Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

I'll just throw out there, good people of the thread, that you don't have to reply to the trolls. If you ignore them, they will go away and we can continue with our gigantic thread. Which has been good at times. But isn't now.

*ignore the trolls!*

Friend, I am a liberal, but not extreme. But I am not a socialist nor am I right of center either.

Regardless, you come off as such a pompous person thru your words that I can see others getting tired of it. I posted recently & just checked in this evening to see the same name calling back & forth. Hell, I went back several pages and you guys ran a Border Patrol agent off the thread. Sorry, but you too are part of the problem & blame of this thread. Change or deal with it.

they panic wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

You know trumpers are in trouble; their posts just get faster & longer!

There are only a couple of Trumpers making the posts. Their desperation is so obvious. Their orange clown is going down.

Here's a perfect example.

The posters just posted "There are only a couple of Trumpers making the posts.", and he posts as "they panic", anonymous. There are no other posters who have used that handle on this thread, I just looked.

So then, which one are you "they panic"? Pot calling the Kettle black to me.

Same thing coming from both sides, hence none of you can have a decent conversation via this thread.

Carry on mates, I just checked in to see if there were any grown ups on here. Guess not.

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

the MFing Republican Party itself is going after Michael Cohen.

And of course that moran Gaetz who will end up censured for his tweets.

And Jim Jordan has been attacking Cohen.

They have decided that Cohen will say terrible things about the president, and their solution is to shoot the messenger.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1100473653509140480

I asked for examples of Trump's "people" going after Cohen. Like his council. Or his chief-of-staff. Or someone in his inner circle.

The Republican party IS Trump's people. I'm not sure what you are expecting - the secretary or state or secretary of defense to start intimidating witnesses?

Democrats lose again

When I said Trump’s people I was referring to any of Trump’s supporters.

But Sarah Sanders comes to mind as she brought up Cohen’s conviction of lying to Congress.

Again the lies were when he protected Trump.

Runn3 wrote:

Carry on mates, I just checked in to see if there were any grown ups on here. Guess not.

You can leave. You can make it one less child to post here.

L L wrote:

When I said Trump’s people I was referring to any of Trump’s supporters.

But Sarah Sanders comes to mind as she brought up Cohen’s conviction of lying to Congress.

Again the lies were when he protected Trump.

Trump supporters have all the markings of a cult. Lying is 100% acceptable. Cheating is 100% acceptable. ... Expect Trump to sign an emergency order cancelling the 2020 elections. That is the only hope he has after the republicans, including him, get slaughtered.

Yeah, he’ll have to cancel common sense, too. Trump’s got everything except brains, good health, and friends.

Runn3 wrote:

they panic wrote:

There are only a couple of Trumpers making the posts. Their desperation is so obvious. Their orange clown is going down.

Here's a perfect example.

The posters just posted "There are only a couple of Trumpers making the posts.", and he posts as "they panic", anonymous. There are no other posters who have used that handle on this thread, I just looked.

So then, which one are you "they panic"? Pot calling the Kettle black to me.

Same thing coming from both sides, hence none of you can have a decent conversation via this thread.

Carry on mates, I just checked in to see if there were any grown ups on here. Guess not.

I would not suggest you staying. Lately, just name-calling (primarily me) and no honest discourse. Pretty pathetic.

L L wrote:

When I said Trump’s people I was referring to any of Trump’s supporters.

But Sarah Sanders comes to mind as she brought up Cohen’s conviction of lying to Congress.

Again the lies were when he protected Trump.

knock it off LL, you need to take a break.

Flagpole, aka they panic

Fat hurts wrote:

Fattyisahurtin' wrote:

No it's not. Try learning the law. Keep quiet now.

Yes it is.

And at least one former federal prosecutor, Ken White, has already said so.

Yep. He's not the only one saying this either. He will be admonished by the House at a minimum, and he is for sure in legal jeopardy. All will depend on if someone wants to pursue it in that way, but what he did was clearly witness tampering...the very definition of it.

Flagpole wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes it is.

And at least one former federal prosecutor, Ken White, has already said so.

Yep. He's not the only one saying this either. He will be admonished by the House at a minimum, and he is for sure in legal jeopardy. All will depend on if someone wants to pursue it in that way, but what he did was clearly witness tampering...the very definition of it.

Flagpole - you are obviously not an attorney. It is only witness tampering IF his intent was to exactly do that ... tamper with the witness. That is a high bar to prove. It was maybe not appropriate for him to say that but definitely not witness tampering unless you can prove he actually intended to tamper with the witness.

L L wrote:

While Trump’s people keep going after Cohen for being convicted of lying to Congress, let’s keep in mind that the lies he told were to cover for Trump’s criminal actions.

Therefore, the truth is that Trump is a criminal.

CORRECT! Cohen is supposedly going to declare publicly tomorrow that Trump has broken the law since being President, and he's going to bring in some Trump financial documents. It's going to be bad. Trump will respond inappropriately.

Senator Mark Warren just said, "Two years ago with this investigation started, I said it may be the most important thing I'm involved in my public life in the Senate, and nothing I've heard today dissuades me from that view."

We are just getting closer and closer to what I've said will happen.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Yep. He's not the only one saying this either. He will be admonished by the House at a minimum, and he is for sure in legal jeopardy. All will depend on if someone wants to pursue it in that way, but what he did was clearly witness tampering...the very definition of it.

Flagpole - you are obviously not an attorney. It is only witness tampering IF his intent was to exactly do that ... tamper with the witness. That is a high bar to prove. It was maybe not appropriate for him to say that but definitely not witness tampering unless you can prove he actually intended to tamper with the witness.

My information is coming from prosecutors who have commented on this so far. Are YOU a lawyer? If not, I will take their word over yours.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole - you are obviously not an attorney. It is only witness tampering IF his intent was to exactly do that ... tamper with the witness. That is a high bar to prove. It was maybe not appropriate for him to say that but definitely not witness tampering unless you can prove he actually intended to tamper with the witness.

My information is coming from prosecutors who have commented on this so far. Are YOU a lawyer? If not, I will take their word over yours.

relatedly, gaetz is an attorney and will probably suffer some punishment from the florida bar, even if he gets away with this tweet in the house.

Sally Vix wrote:

Flagpole - you are obviously not an attorney. It is only witness tampering IF his intent was to exactly do that ... tamper with the witness. That is a high bar to prove. It was maybe not appropriate for him to say that but definitely not witness tampering unless you can prove he actually intended to tamper with the witness.

Ummm . . . what other purpose could it have possibly served?

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

the MFing Republican Party itself is going after Michael Cohen.

And of course that moran Gaetz who will end up censured for his tweets.

And Jim Jordan has been attacking Cohen.

They have decided that Cohen will say terrible things about the president, and their solution is to shoot the messenger.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1100473653509140480

I asked for examples of Trump's "people" going after Cohen. Like his council. Or his chief-of-staff. Or someone in his inner circle.

What is the reason for you asking this? Do you actually really not know? Do you think that L L doesn't know or that others here don't know, or will you deny?

Sarah Sanders -- within the last couple days "It's laughable that anyone would take a convicted liar like Cohen at his word and pathetic to see him given yet another opportunity to spread his lies."

Rudy Giuliani -- for months now "He's been a liar all his life"

Trump's "lawyers" -

Kellyann Conway - has consistently backed the President and called Cohen a liar

Today Matt Gaetz, one of Trump's most ardent supporters.

Trump himself of course...called him a liar and a "weak person."

So, we have his Press Secretary, his lawyer Giuliani and also his "lawyers", his senior adviser, one of his biggest supporters in the House, and of course Trump himself. That is more than enough. Add Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and other Fox aholes and some other conservative radio hosts, the attack on Cohen as full force...Jim Jordan, etc.

Rich that someone who has ADMITTED to lying and now is saying he wants to come clean is being ripped on by this White House as a liar when the Orange One in the White House lies as easily as most people exhale.

agip wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

My information is coming from prosecutors who have commented on this so far. Are YOU a lawyer? If not, I will take their word over yours.

relatedly, gaetz is an attorney and will probably suffer some punishment from the florida bar, even if he gets away with this tweet in the house.

Yep...this is part of what makes this even more asinine. Dude is a lawyer and went and did that. It's even more against him because Cohen put this testimony off precisely BECAUSE of the witness tampering Trump and Giuliani were engaging in.

There is no guarantee he will be convicted of tampering with a witness, but he is a fool to have put himself in this position. This is what you get for supporting Trump in such a way...look at the carnage so far. Trump destroys everything and all he comes into close contact with.

Sally Vix wrote:

L L wrote:

While Trump’s people keep going after Cohen for being convicted of lying to Congress, let’s keep in mind that the lies he told were to cover for Trump’s criminal actions.

Therefore, the truth is that Trump is a criminal.

Please give examples of Trump's "people" going after Cohen. Just give examples.

Latest one was Matt Gaetz, or do you not consider that valid? Trump’s friends on FOX have been tearing Cohen a new one for a long time now.