Official thread to discuss moderation policies

wejo · 2019-07-09T11:11:03-04:00

I said perhaps we should start a thread to discuss how to best moderate Letsrun.com and here it is. What can we do to improve? Moderating is often as much art as science but if want to see what we aim to do with moderation, perhaps the best place to start is our terms of service which I'm posting excerpts at bottom. We don't vouch that we read every post on LetsRun.com but moderators do read every post reported to us via the "Report a Post" button. We are strong believers in the right to post anonymously but for what type of thread should and when we limit that? There are some downsides to anonymity, but it also helps bring out some things that are good that would not get said if the poster was worried about being tracked down in real life. Ideally we want a civil LetsRun where there is an exchange of ideas, some you may not like, but that is done respectfully. We like all communities come up short of that goal. And the vast, vast majority of posters are positive contributors. I'd say it's less than .1% of the posters who cause the most trouble. Terms of Service section on content: You understand that LetsRun.com does not pre-screen content but it may remove content at its sole discretion for any reason whatsoever. If you would like to suggest that something be removed, please use the "report a post" function or email LetsRun.com at remove@letsrun.com but LetsRun.com does not have to remove any content and may or may not agree to your request. Every post that is reported by the "report a post" function is reviewed be a moderator. There is no guarantee other posts are read by a human moderator. Guidelines for posts: Be civil- While we don't pre-screen content we want to have a community where ideas are exchanged in a civil manner and people feel open to post. Please be civil and use the report a post function. Types of posts that will be removed: a) Violent/Pornographic posts Posts that encourage violence, abuse or harrassment will be removed. Posts with graphic violence or adult content will be removed. b) Hateful conduct: Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, or disability will be removed. c) Private personal information: Posts that expose other people's private information (such as home phone number and address) without their express authorization and permission will be removed. However, you acknowledge that your identity is not a secret whether or not you reveal your name in your posts. Your IP address is tracked. As a result others, including LetsRun.com, may be able to figure out who you are and thus your identity may be revealed to others. d) Spam/Advertisements The message board forum(s) are not designed to serve as a place where one makes posts that are nothing more than glorified advertisements (i.e. anything promoting another website, product, etc.). Posts that serve as advertisements are likely to be deleted. If you would like to reach the targeted audience of dedicated running aficionados that come to LetsRun.com, we suggest you consider advertising with the web-site or at the very least contacting LetsRun.com before making posts that are advertisements. For more information contact LetsRun.com at advertise@letsrun.com. e) Copyright/trademark violations Do not steal other's work. We support the concept of fair use and parody, but not IP theft. We get complaints from both sides - ie we delete too much stuff and we don't delete enough. https://www.letsrun.com/forum/TOS.php

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3 years ago 04/08/2023 3:04pm EDT

re: help wejo help

help wejo help wrote:
Is there any way the "running thread only" box can be enforced? There are so many crazy off-topic threads that are marked running related. I've reported them, explaining why, yet they stay up.

Years ago, I asked the brojos to PLEASE do something like requiring a confirmation for anyone posting a topic as "Running Thread" only. It should include a warning the posters posting non-running content there will be banned. ... The moderators should be reviewing the threads created there and remove or relocate them, while noting the posting name and IP of the moran.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 3:12pm EDT

re: Deno

Deno wrote:
MartyHumming wrote:
There’s a lot of very concerned posters. Need Wejo to get involved here.
My stance on this trans thing and the gay thing has done me in, here you must be in favor of both if not you are a villian, No matter what I try to talk about some troll ruins it. We wouldn't have all these trolls if we had to register, Having to own your stuff would make a big difference.
The mods would have it so much easier if they just had registered posters only.
Knowing what they say can be tracked back to you is a lot different that being hid away.

Yes. Just censor like all the big tech companies do. I'm a special flower and my delicate sensibilities need protecting... and better not allow me to be exposed to unpopular or unapproved ideas. I might end up outside the approved groupthink.

That will definitely make Letsrun.com better.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 3:53pm EDT

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You checked all of his/her posts? That just proves my point.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 4:18pm EDT

re: help wejo help

help wejo help wrote:
Is there any way the "running thread only" box can be enforced? There are so many crazy off-topic threads that are marked running related. I've reported them, explaining why, yet they stay up.

They want to be able to claim they cleaned up the place, without actually cleaning up the place.

The nutcases know they found a haven here

3 years ago 04/08/2023 4:22pm EDT

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 7:43pm EDT

re: Ghost of Igloi

Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Deno wrote:
My stance on this trans thing and the gay thing has done me in, here you must be in favor of both if not you are a villian, No matter what I try to talk about some troll ruins it. We wouldn't have all these trolls if we had to register, Having to own your stuff would make a big difference.
The mods would have it so much easier if they just had registered posters only.
Knowing what they say can be tracked back to you is a lot different that being hid away.
Requiring registration would help. My serial stalker has registered more than half dozen handles to specifically target my posts. In addition, he then uses anonymous handles, and inflating down votes to further harass. In the end there is little one can do about mentally disturbed people. One can only hope they are not mentally ill dangerous. I have given this fear some consideration at times. He posted just above this post, and even though this thread has been going for sometime, and I have not posted, after a series of incidents on the 50+ Masters thread, I did. Sure enough the stalking moves here. The only real way to stop this type of individual, is to leave, or at least post less frequently. Remove the drug, the high they get from destructive behavior.

You're right Iggy, ignore them.

Anonymous or not, you'll always get this.

Unless...you belong to a forum (I'm a builder) and the site has multiple separate sub forums for different topics. It's quite simple there. If someone did to you what this person is doing, they'd be gone in a blink of an eye as I've seen it happen a few times.

It's really is rare though as if you sign up, they make it clear if you swear, harass or are rude you are gone. The poster are absolutely awesome and when someone disagrees with a method or technique, they are polite with their explanation.

This site will NEVER be that way as they will not do that...I still can't figure out why though? It generates more registered members, not less (trust me on that one).

I'm anonymous, but I'm not harassing anyone and I don't care about registering unless it's going to be everyone doing it, mandatory.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 9:26pm EDT

re: Amber Heard

Amber Heard wrote:
Deno wrote:
My stance on this trans thing and the gay thing has done me in, here you must be in favor of both if not you are a villian, No matter what I try to talk about some troll ruins it. We wouldn't have all these trolls if we had to register, Having to own your stuff would make a big difference.
The mods would have it so much easier if they just had registered posters only.
Knowing what they say can be tracked back to you is a lot different that being hid away.
Yes. Just censor like all the big tech companies do. I'm a special flower and my delicate sensibilities need protecting... and better not allow me to be exposed to unpopular or unapproved ideas. I might end up outside the approved groupthink.
That will definitely make Letsrun.com better.

What would make this place better is that need to register so we will be held accountable for our actions. This hide behind a fake name so you can be a pest in a thread sucks.

I confess I didn't realize we had so many kids posting here, a lot of immaturity.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 10:20pm EDT

re: Deno

If I didn’t enjoy the good people I would just leave, which I may do anyway. At a certain point it is a waste of time dealing with deviant personalities.

3 years ago 04/08/2023 10:30pm EDT

re: Deno

Deno wrote:
What would make this place better is that need to register so we will be held accountable for our actions. This hide behind a fake name so you can be a pest in a thread sucks.
I confess I didn't realize we had so many kids posting here, a lot of immaturity.

What would make this place better is if posters were banned for making repeated homophobic and transphobic posts.

Not the grey are stuff like being opposed to transathletes in female sports....that's just open discourse.

But if you express open disgust or hatred for people based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.....you should not be welcomed here.

3 years ago 04/09/2023 7:31am EDT

re: help wejo help

help wejo help wrote:
Is there any way the "running thread only" box can be enforced? There are so many crazy off-topic threads that are marked running related. I've reported them, explaining why, yet they stay up.

We will work on this this week.

3 years ago 04/09/2023 11:04am EDT

re: stay true iggy

stay true iggy wrote:
You're right Iggy, ignore them.
Anonymous or not, you'll always get this.
Unless...you belong to a forum (I'm a builder) and the site has multiple separate sub forums for different topics. It's quite simple there. If someone did to you what this person is doing, they'd be gone in a blink of an eye as I've seen it happen a few times.
It's really is rare though as if you sign up, they make it clear if you swear, harass or are rude you are gone. The poster are absolutely awesome and when someone disagrees with a method or technique, they are polite with their explanation.
This site will NEVER be that way as they will not do that...I still can't figure out why though? It generates more registered members, not less (trust me on that one).
I'm anonymous, but I'm not harassing anyone and I don't care about registering unless it's going to be everyone doing it, mandatory.

I think you have made several points, that from my experience with this person, the administration of this site, makes sense. On balance I know the depravity will not end, so what really is the point of one continuing to swim up stream against it?

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