Heartoftexas wrote:
St Edwards listed an assistant job.
Who took the head job?
Website doesn’t show anyone who’s taken it. Did the previous coach get hired elsewhere?
Heartoftexas wrote:
St Edwards listed an assistant job.
Who took the head job?
Website doesn’t show anyone who’s taken it. Did the previous coach get hired elsewhere?
Fort Kent Maine job what is the deal? D3? NAIA? USCCA? Starting a program or just half arsin it?
"Among his coaching accomplishments, Ponsonby helped guide Leo Manzano to a 2012 Olympic Silver Medal at the London games in the 1,500-meter race, has coached athletes to two U.S. Championship titles, trained 10 NCAA All-Americans and two individual NCAA champions. He continues to work with elite mid-distance and distance runners around the globe."
If this guy coached Manzano to an Olympic medal why can he only land a D3 job?
Dude just needed a paycheck and health insurance. And he doesn’t have to move!
Explain to me a guy without any college coaching experience can claim to have coached NCAA AllAmericans and champions? How does this work exactly?
L. Manzano wrote:
"Among his coaching accomplishments, Ponsonby helped guide Leo Manzano to a 2012 Olympic Silver Medal at the London games in the 1,500-meter race, has coached athletes to two U.S. Championship titles, trained 10 NCAA All-Americans and two individual NCAA champions. He continues to work with elite mid-distance and distance runners around the globe."
If this guy coached Manzano to an Olympic medal why can he only land a D3 job?
To be fair, they are D2..
Any words on movements after indoor nationals for sooner or later?
Sweepthebroom wrote:
Any words on movements after indoor nationals for sooner or later?
The Chris Fox taking up coaching duties for new professional Reebok group in Boston are alive and sounding solid. A couple athletes already signed up. A high profile collegiate opening in the distance world for sure.
Mr Peanutbutter wrote:
Director at Eastern Illinois is retiring at the end of the year
http://eiupanthers.com/news/2018/3/6/mens-track-tom-akers-to-retire-following-2018-track-season.aspx
Any candidates to replace him?
Uc Davis has a position coming open.
Probably the throws coach she has been there with him and has a head title
Big Wes wrote:
Uc Davis has a position coming open.
Don’t they always?
Chris Newport needs a throws coach. Turnover there for assistants is pretty quick.
christopher robin wrote:
Chris Newport needs a throws coach. Turnover there for assistants is pretty quick.
What happened there now? Didn't they just have a thrower at NCAAs over the weekend?
Turning outside wrote:
Sweepthebroom wrote:
Any words on movements after indoor nationals for sooner or later?
The Chris Fox taking up coaching duties for new professional Reebok group in Boston are alive and sounding solid. A couple athletes already signed up. A high profile collegiate opening in the distance world for sure.
Who has “signed up”. There isn’t exactly a lot of talent coming out this year. Prakel? Trouard? Idk man, these guys look like Starbucks Baristas, nobody is going to pay them to wear their stuff. Has to be people who are already established and have a personality. Maybe you’d like to tell us?
Frivolous wrote:
Explain to me a guy without any college coaching experience can claim to have coached NCAA AllAmericans and champions? How does this work exactly?
After graduating he was a volunteer at Texas. The accomplishments in the program are used as your accomplishments. That's how getting in the profession works. The results from your time there are your résumé.
The bio doesn't even say what events those all-americans and champions were in. Ever notice how a head coach's bio says he had all-american 100m runners and pole vaulters but the guy was the distance coach? Kinda the same stretch: "I had little, if anything at all, to do with the success of that athlete but technically I'm one of their coaches so it's my success too" Theyre just fin
It's a complete joke to claim he coached those All Americans and NCAA champions - that was entirely Jason Vigilante! The dude was hanging around helping out and getting his feet wet. Ridiculous. This is totally different than a head coach claiming All Americans that were earned under his watch, even if he wasn't the specific event coach. That's the prerogative of any head coach like it is any and other sport. Some of this guys resume claims are pretty outrageous.
Look at any volunteer's list of accomplishments and tell me how often you believe it's actually them.... Obviously it was all Vigilante. That's how the volunteer/mentor process works and just because one uses it on his resume it doesn't diminish what it is for the other. I'm literally doing it right now, that's how you obtain recognition in the coaching world - learning from a good coach). You play some part in the process, even if that's just holding a watch. That's how getting your feet wet transitions to getting a job. What good is volunteer experience if there was no success? We go put in hours for free for the chance to say "I was a part of this success and that's why you should hire me" -- his resume is saying "I learned how to train all-americans under Vigilante", not "I did all the coaching and Vigilante did nothing"
I'm not saying some of the claims aren't outrageous(I cringed reading the thing). I'm just explaining why he might say certain things. You can't expect someone to get a job in coaching without using the success of their learning experience
TheMidCoach wrote:
Look at any volunteer's list of accomplishments and tell me how often you believe it's actually them.... Obviously it was all Vigilante. That's how the volunteer/mentor process works and just because one uses it on his resume it doesn't diminish what it is for the other. I'm literally doing it right now, that's how you obtain recognition in the coaching world - learning from a good coach). You play some part in the process, even if that's just holding a watch. That's how getting your feet wet transitions to getting a job. What good is volunteer experience if there was no success? We go put in hours for free for the chance to say "I was a part of this success and that's why you should hire me" -- his resume is saying "I learned how to train all-americans under Vigilante", not "I did all the coaching and Vigilante did nothing"
I'm not saying some of the claims aren't outrageous(I cringed reading the thing). I'm just explaining why he might say certain things. You can't expect someone to get a job in coaching without using the success of their learning experience
Was he apart of the success? Sure, and by that I mean he was around and assisted with the program. But at the end of the day, Vig could have done it without him and if he wasnt there I honestly doubt the results would have been any different. It irks me when people say they coached so and so when they clearly didnt. I have alot more respect to those who word it along the lines of "assisted with the track and cross country program that produced All Americans and NCAA Champions during his time at Texas." That makes it pretty clear that he did just that - assisted.