DISGRACED Iowa State Runner Transfers to D3 School

OK. How many started in D1, had an explosive and unexpected breakthrough, then got removed from the team amidst a flurry of rumors? How many then transferred to D3 -- where there is no testing -- and then later had a video surface where receipts for EPO are in their email inbox, sent in their name, and delivered to a relative's address, months after being removed from their first team?

I'll wait.

Pay attention. The poster pointed out that D3 guys mske big drops. An idiot then questioned why inly two guys were examples. Another guy points out that 50 D3 guys made 1 minute drops.

It’s not that hard. He needs to come out and say exactly why he was kicked off Iowa State, he needs to take a sworn oath (under risk of perjury) that he has never used or purchased any performance enhancing drugs including EPO, and he needs to explain that video, including but not limited to allowing the NCAA to look through his email for any further evidence of wrongdoing. And he should get his former coaches at Iowa state to corroborate any story

Ok clown. The WIAC (Wisconsin public D3 school has had a dozen athletes go 13:47-14:20 indoors in the last couple years. Almost everyone from Wisconsin high schools. Wisconsin La Crosse placed 6th out of 18 in the D1 gold race last fall at Notre Dame with an average time of 23:41 and 7th at 24:01 so kindly go sit on rotate.

No. He doesn't need to do anything. I think you need to explain your life to us. I demand it.

Hoping this is bait, but that idiot simply posted the time range of the top 50 5K times in D3. That says absolutely nothing about how many people in D3 have made a one minute drop.

Rowan put out a statement on Monday indicating that they're at least aware of the situation. The statement is incredibly vague, but at least it's something.

Next thing you know they'll put together a committee to discuss empowering a panel to look into making a recommendation!

Here's a free look into the future, Seth and his associated family members and ballwasher teammates: this is going to get a lot worse for you before it gets better.

If you claim that D3 guys running 13:30 or even 14:30 in D3 tells you absolutely nothing about improvement, you are clueless regarding high school running. How many 15:00 high school.kids go D3? Likely none. How many 15:30 kids go D3? Bottom line without checking each of the 50, it is likely that 95% improved 1 minute.

Just looked into milesplit and other sources for the D3 5k examples provided earlier, that class of guys like patzka and others was during covid so those times were from junior year, not senior. Those examples seem a lot more linear. That is comparing times from when that grade was 17 to when they were in their early 20's. a lot can happen in 4+ years as opposed to one guy dropping 1 minute in a 5k in 8+ months.

This makes it sound like your cross country and track coaches are permitting doping. They let him on the team, knowing about these reports, and did no investigation?

Before this statement, I thought that Rowan had done some sort of investigation and believed Seth was innocent.

You didn't look at squat. 13:30-14:40 is the top 50 indoor now. Several are freshmen who have already dropped more than 1 minute in 6 months of college. Most ran 16 minutes in high school and have dropped almost 2 minutes. They weren't in high school during Covid.

Good god, are you being purposefully obtuse or is that just how you are? The claim was about improvement in college, not from high school to college.

Regardless, your claim about the speed of these high schoolers going D3 is also wrong. Take a look at the number of recruits coming into D3 with times in the range of 4:10/9:00/15:00 over the past few years years. Not rare — in fact, relatively common — at NESCAC/UAA schools, for example. I mean seriously, look at Johns Hopkins’ recruits over the past few years. They just had two freshman run top 10 true-freshman times in the nation (across ALL DIVISIONS) for 3K and 5K. Stop spreading random misinformation in your fool’s errand to defend Seth.

Coach Joe, I was looking at the two examples provided, not the 50 other random D3 runners. Since you have got so much time on your hands and a big brain then do that yourself pal

Rowan just made the whole team look guilty.

If I were a runner at Rowan, I would be looking to transfer ASAP.

This looks like the beginning of the end. Rowan likely does not want to deal with this smoke, and with the video of the email that’s circulating around no one is going to accept a negative test when you can microdose and test negative a few hours later. Even ardent supporters like ghost1 have gone quiet since the video has been released.

Crazy that they dropped the memo on President's day, has it be intentional with hoping that people were busy and not checking out about this online.

No it wasn't. Wwharrier was the one who pointed out how much D3 runners improve from HS to college. One of the Hopkins guys has improved 90 seconds since freshman year.

I'm not sure whether it was intentional or not. I learned of the statement from an email from Rowan's AD, after I had contacted him about the situation.

Here's his full response to me, for what it's worth:

I emailed Tucker on Monday, and got his response on the same day. But I don't know if this could really be considered a "public" statement, as it's not even listed in Rowan's athletics news stories. I'm not on social media - did they post it there?

I wanted to post the statement to this thread on Monday, but I had been auto-banned for somehow flagging the spam filter in another post. Ah, LetsRun...