SMH....Newsflash....that damn flag has always been racist to black people. That flag and other flags were used by the Confederate. The Confederate...you know those traitors to the United States that rebelled against the nation so that they could continue to own black people. Now racist want to say its Southern pride? Pride in getting your a** beat in a war. Pride in being a short lived country. Pride in being rural and ignorant.
Also...a lot more than 1% of southerners owned slaves from 1619 to 1865. Even if the didn't own slaves they still raped, beat and murdered blacks with impunity and then passed laws to keep them as 2nd class citizens for another 100 years and even after the passing of Civil Rights laws in the late 60's and 70's continue to discriminate to this very day.
Under 2% of white southerners owned slaves. Moran
Really? Then explain why 95% of African-Americans today don't have but a few English surnames? We know the exact names of all the slave owners. 95% of us still have their names.
In 2023 the typical African-American is WAAAAY better off than the typical sub-saharan African.
This isn't debatable.
Literally laughing out loud
”Hey how did Africa’s nation states come to their current position in the world as far as socioeconomic strength, political structure and even the current borders of the nations themselves?”
”It doesn’t matter.”
Just push all the “how it happened” stuff into the closet, hysterical. “Nothing to see here, folks. ‘King Leopold?’ Never heard of him.”
”Why do Black people in America have more per capita wealth than Black people in the DRC?” “It doesn’t matter!”
You think some man in Benin is wishing that his great-great-great-great grandmother had been kidnapped into slavery and tortured and raped by white overseers so that maybe instead of being in Benin, he’d be able to watch the SEC Network on the weekends. “Sorry your family got murdered but hey, here’s a coupon. It could be worse: that other guy’s family got killed and he doesn’t get a coupon.”
Africa was behind Europe in technological development before colonialism, which is why Europeans were able to dominate these countries. There are many different cultural, geoenvironmental, sociopolitical, economic, biological factors that account for this. Liberals only focus on colonialism because they're ignorant, closed-minded and hateful.
What fantasy world do you live in where nothing happens unless everyone accepts it??
Did the French and Polish accept it when Germany conquered them in WW2? Of course not but they couldn't do a damn thing about it so that's what happened.
As for China, China could never win a war with the US. China has no blue water navy and they import most of their food and energy. The US could starve 500 million Chinese to death without firing a shot just by closing the shipping lanes to China.
Why so defensive? The non-Vichy French and Poles persevered with help and beat back the Axis. The Kuomintang did not and lost to Mao and the Communists. Might made right in both cases, yes?
If might makes right, then the winner is always right, the loser is wrong. Even if you’re that loser. To the victor goes the spoils. Trial by combat. Call it whatever you want.
I think you've lost track of the point you thought you were making.
Really? Then explain why 95% of African-Americans today don't have but a few English surnames? We know the exact names of all the slave owners. 95% of us still have their names.
SMH.... a billion people aren't dying to get into America or Europe.
As for Mozart, he wasn't better than Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges
Always lying as usual on black people in your weak attempt to make yourself seem superior to black people.
Please keep in mind that you're really stupid.
The countries that have the most people trying to immigrate to them are white western countries. This is a fact even if it hurts your fragile feelings.
And no one knows who the hell Joseph Bologne or that other dude even are which proves you're wrong.
We are talking about right now how whites are trying to change the history of chattel slavery in America in how it is taught right now in Florida. They have the audacity to say a slave benefited from a skill learned while a slave. WTF?
How about white people TODAY stop lying and being discriminatory towards black people and all people who aren't white.
How are white people today discriminating toward black people? Is it all white people, or just some? Are Asians discriminating toward black people? Are black people discriminating toward black people? Do black people kill tens of thousands of black people every year in America? Which is more oppressive, black people killing thousands of black people, or a history standard in Florida teaching that black slaves used skills learned while they were slaves to find employment when slavery was ended? Which are you more vocal about?
Trying to virtue signal as usual. A typical white tactic, as if you actually give a damn about black people.
Ask yourself...why and how did 16% of African-Americans today become in a state of poverty? It certainly wasn't by accident. It was due to discrimination, inequality and racism, even after the passage of civil rights. Also ask yourself if whites were so virtuous, then why did we have to pass civil rights laws in the 1960's and 1970's? Why did you ban us from the same rights and freedoms you have benefitted from when you stole this land?
So now you are cool with teaching lies about the evil history of this nation to middle school kids in Florida. WTH
How about you concern yourself with why white males kill themselves at rates 7x higher than a black person murdering another black person. Or about how many white folks kill themselves from drugs. Over 500 white guys die daily from suicide and drug overdoses, but you are silent about that. You are scared that in another generation white will no longer be the majority in America. Would you like it if all the people of color treat you like you have treated us for the last 400 years? Of course not.
Just stop with your virtue signaling. It was played out 3 decades ago.
SMH....Newsflash....that damn flag has always been racist to black people. That flag and other flags were used by the Confederate. The Confederate...you know those traitors to the United States that rebelled against the nation so that they could continue to own black people. Now racist want to say its Southern pride? Pride in getting your a** beat in a war. Pride in being a short lived country. Pride in being rural and ignorant.
Also...a lot more than 1% of southerners owned slaves from 1619 to 1865. Even if the didn't own slaves they still raped, beat and murdered blacks with impunity and then passed laws to keep them as 2nd class citizens for another 100 years and even after the passing of Civil Rights laws in the late 60's and 70's continue to discriminate to this very day.
The problem with this argument that you're making is based on the idea that something could not change, and it's original purpose is what it always has to be
Except Democrats don't practice that.
Case in point. The logo of the donkey or jacksss, is a traditional Democrat emblem. Now the Democrat party is a different party than it was in its beginning, so therefore the donkey represented a different meaning in the 1800s then it does today.
Back in the 1800s it represented segregation. And you accept that it means something different now. Symbols change meaning.
But with the Confederate flag you insist that it has to mean the same thing that it did in the 1800s. Despite the fact that people that fly it continue to tell you that they don't fly it for that same meaning.
So which is it? Can a symbol change what it represents or not?
I'll answer for you. Symbols can change their meanings. Confederate flags mean something different now.
The how and why are completely irrelevant to the question "who's better off in 2023?"
So these factual details of how slavery differed in Africa before colonialism aren't important, but the fact that some slaves learned some useful skills as a consequence of the labor they were forced to do and, as an unintentional consequence of that, used those skill to benefit themselves in some way, is relevant to the study of slavery in the context of AA history?
SMH... You forgot to say that white Europe was so perfect and so white, that we moved to the western hemisphere, Australia and Africa.
There are a hell of a lot more white people that moved to places that didn't have any white people, than the other way around.
So why did you white folks come to Africa or North America or anywhere when you knew it was already inhabited by people who didn't look like you? So if you don't like people of color, then why didn't you stay in your perfect all white country?
The how and why are completely irrelevant to the question "who's better off in 2023?"
So these factual details of how slavery differed in Africa before colonialism aren't important, but the fact that some slaves learned some useful skills as a consequence of the labor they were forced to do and, as an unintentional consequence of that, used those skill to benefit themselves in some way, is relevant to the study of slavery in the context of AA history?
I didn't say one word about the study of slavery or AA history.
SMH....Newsflash....that damn flag has always been racist to black people. That flag and other flags were used by the Confederate. The Confederate...you know those traitors to the United States that rebelled against the nation so that they could continue to own black people. Now racist want to say its Southern pride? Pride in getting your a** beat in a war. Pride in being a short lived country. Pride in being rural and ignorant.
Also...a lot more than 1% of southerners owned slaves from 1619 to 1865. Even if the didn't own slaves they still raped, beat and murdered blacks with impunity and then passed laws to keep them as 2nd class citizens for another 100 years and even after the passing of Civil Rights laws in the late 60's and 70's continue to discriminate to this very day.
The problem with this argument that you're making is based on the idea that something could not change, and it's original purpose is what it always has to be
Except Democrats don't practice that.
Case in point. The logo of the donkey or jacksss, is a traditional Democrat emblem. Now the Democrat party is a different party than it was in its beginning, so therefore the donkey represented a different meaning in the 1800s then it does today.
Back in the 1800s it represented segregation. And you accept that it means something different now. Symbols change meaning.
But with the Confederate flag you insist that it has to mean the same thing that it did in the 1800s. Despite the fact that people that fly it continue to tell you that they don't fly it for that same meaning.
So which is it? Can a symbol change what it represents or not?
I'll answer for you. Symbols can change their meanings. Confederate flags mean something different now.
Yeah...carried by racist idiots when they stormed the US Capitol.
Just like when they fought to keep black people enslaved. Weak try. Want to try again to explain away your racism?
The how and why are completely irrelevant to the question "who's better off in 2023?"
So these factual details of how slavery differed in Africa before colonialism aren't important, but the fact that some slaves learned some useful skills as a consequence of the labor they were forced to do and, as an unintentional consequence of that, used those skill to benefit themselves in some way, is relevant to the study of slavery in the context of AA history?
SMH... You forgot to say that white Europe was so perfect and so white, that we moved to the western hemisphere, Australia and Africa.
There are a hell of a lot more white people that moved to places that didn't have any white people, than the other way around.
So why did you white folks come to Africa or North America or anywhere when you knew it was already inhabited by people who didn't look like you? So if you don't like people of color, then why didn't you stay in your perfect all white country?
Your ignorance is showing.
Why did the Huns or the Mongols go anywhere?
Why did the Zulu go anywhere?
You will never understand anything so long as you remain completely and utterly ignorant to history.
And again who is "you"?? Are you honestly so stupid that you think all white people are the same person?
Only racist jack asses like yourself who think you personally suffered any indignity any brown person who ever lived suffered think this way.
I have absolutely nothing to do with anything white people did hundreds of years ago.
Do you realize how miserable you have to be to insist that a Confederate flag has to mean an old meaning -- one that's a negative? And then the people flying it tell y" no we want to change the meaning of it to something more positive", and you keep insisting no it has to mean the negative.
I guarantee the black guy is thread where sneakers made in Asia by slave labor. And if you blame him for it he won't take the blame. Americans got their cotton from slaves, those Americans died off, and he's blaming the ones that or descended from them. Regular people have no control over economic systems. The elite that did anything that you didn't like are long gone now. You're not going to get white people to feel guilty because of it, unless they're on marijuana or something
Slave labor? I guess some dosen't know it 2023, not 1983. Also American companies chose to manufacture their products in China and other SE Asian countries. As if 80% of all the products you own are made from that part of the world and then you try to somehow correlate that with African-Americans.
You white guys are F'ing amazing in your ability to defend any and everything you have ever done to people of color and somehow try to blame them for how they have been treated by you! The audacity of some whites knows no boundaries or limits!
Slave labor? I guess some dosen't know it 2023, not 1983. Also American companies chose to manufacture their products in China and other SE Asian countries. As if 80% of all the products you own are made from that part of the world and then you try to somehow correlate that with African-Americans.
You white guys are F'ing amazing in your ability to defend any and everything you have ever done to people of color and somehow try to blame them for how they have been treated by you! The audacity of some whites knows no boundaries or limits!
Labor rights in China are absolutely unethical and you're continuing to wear products made from factories in Asia. So it's your fault, your benefiting and participating in it.
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