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Coots man9 wrote:
It’s going to be another slow year…ADs don’t give two sh**s about winning in track so either they would keep mediocre head coaches for ever or promote mediocre assistants to head/directors (I.e Michigan, UCLA etc etc).
Remember this kids. None of your administrators give two sh!ts if you're winning or not. This will help you navigate this profession more than any other piece of advice here.
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Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
Coots man9 wrote:
It’s going to be another slow year…ADs don’t give two sh**s about winning in track so either they would keep mediocre head coaches for ever or promote mediocre assistants to head/directors (I.e Michigan, UCLA etc etc).
Remember this kids. None of your administrators give two sh!ts if you're winning or not. This will help you navigate this profession more than any other piece of advice here.
I've found that the people who cling to this notion are usually disgruntled coaches and former coaches who did not get the positions they desire. Often they get passed over due to lack of social skills or their very apparent arrogance.
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Sliding Scale... wrote:
Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
Remember this kids. None of your administrators give two sh!ts if you're winning or not. This will help you navigate this profession more than any other piece of advice here.
I've found that the people who cling to this notion are usually disgruntled coaches and former coaches who did not get the positions they desire. Often they get passed over due to lack of social skills or their very apparent arrogance.
I got every job I've ever applied for. And very happy in my current position. Mostly because I finally accepted that administrators don't care about athletic success...so I've been able to re-align my priorities. And I'm a much more pleasant human being because of it. Young coaches would do well to remember their job isn't to compete at a high level as well. They'll be a lot happier for it. If you've come across an administrator who prioritizes competitive athletic success, please let the rest of us know.
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Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
Sliding Scale... wrote:
I've found that the people who cling to this notion are usually disgruntled coaches and former coaches who did not get the positions they desire. Often they get passed over due to lack of social skills or their very apparent arrogance.
I got every job I've ever applied for. And very happy in my current position. Mostly because I finally accepted that administrators don't care about athletic success...so I've been able to re-align my priorities. And I'm a much more pleasant human being because of it. Young coaches would do well to remember their job isn't to compete at a high level as well. They'll be a lot happier for it. If you've come across an administrator who prioritizes competitive athletic success, please let the rest of us know.
So you’re saying an administrator would be against you trying to recruit top talent or take them to bigger Invitationals to go for ncaa times or are you saying they’re indifferent?
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I think it will be a hot summer of change
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Thread dead wrote:
Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
I got every job I've ever applied for. And very happy in my current position. Mostly because I finally accepted that administrators don't care about athletic success...so I've been able to re-align my priorities. And I'm a much more pleasant human being because of it. Young coaches would do well to remember their job isn't to compete at a high level as well. They'll be a lot happier for it. If you've come across an administrator who prioritizes competitive athletic success, please let the rest of us know.
So you’re saying an administrator would be against you trying to recruit top talent or take them to bigger Invitationals to go for ncaa times or are you saying they’re indifferent?
Essentially indifferent. Sure, they'd "like" it if you're competitively successful. But not nearly as much as you having lots of women on the team for Title IX fodder. Or having a strong team GPA. Or high graduation rate. And most importantly, that all of your kids are happy/not causing problems (making accusations on social media, getting into trouble on campus/with the law, complaining about coaching/workouts). Why? Because that all creates more work for them. For a sport that doesn't matter & will not help their career. So just don't rock the boat and make their job harder. That's your job.
If you've done all this and THEN you're competitively successful, well then that's just icing on the cake. But that's about 9th or so on the priority list of keeping your job. Much less a promotion/advancing in this profession.
I'm willing to believe there are schools/administrators who prioritize competitive athletic success as their #1. But I'm willing to bet there are less than half a dozen of those in the NCAA.
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Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
Thread dead wrote:
So you’re saying an administrator would be against you trying to recruit top talent or take them to bigger Invitationals to go for ncaa times or are you saying they’re indifferent?
Essentially indifferent. Sure, they'd "like" it if you're competitively successful. But not nearly as much as you having lots of women on the team for Title IX fodder. Or having a strong team GPA. Or high graduation rate. And most importantly, that all of your kids are happy/not causing problems (making accusations on social media, getting into trouble on campus/with the law, complaining about coaching/workouts). Why? Because that all creates more work for them. For a sport that doesn't matter & will not help their career. So just don't rock the boat and make their job harder. That's your job.
If you've done all this and THEN you're competitively successful, well then that's just icing on the cake. But that's about 9th or so on the priority list of keeping your job. Much less a promotion/advancing in this profession.
I'm willing to believe there are schools/administrators who prioritize competitive athletic success as their #1. But I'm willing to bet there are less than half a dozen of those in the NCAA.
This is the most accurate post on this thread.
Your AD does not care about actual success in track. There are only a few exceptions in the entire country. And when I say few, I mean single digits. They'd like you to be successful, but they do not care. They are about Football and maybe basketball success. That, and raising a bunch of money, is what moves you up the ladder in AD land.
For minor sports, they just don't want you to cause any problems. The sooner you learn that and accept it, the better off you are.81 -
local D3 school looking for a track and field assistant in the sprints and jumps. Great academic school and heard they are building an new indoor facility that includes 4 lane 200 meter track for training. From what I’m hearing a decent D3 job.
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Wild Duck Whisperer wrote:
Thread dead wrote:
So you’re saying an administrator would be against you trying to recruit top talent or take them to bigger Invitationals to go for ncaa times or are you saying they’re indifferent?
Essentially indifferent. Sure, they'd "like" it if you're competitively successful. But not nearly as much as you having lots of women on the team for Title IX fodder. Or having a strong team GPA. Or high graduation rate. And most importantly, that all of your kids are happy/not causing problems (making accusations on social media, getting into trouble on campus/with the law, complaining about coaching/workouts). Why? Because that all creates more work for them. For a sport that doesn't matter & will not help their career. So just don't rock the boat and make their job harder. That's your job.
If you've done all this and THEN you're competitively successful, well then that's just icing on the cake. But that's about 9th or so on the priority list of keeping your job. Much less a promotion/advancing in this profession.
I'm willing to believe there are schools/administrators who prioritize competitive athletic success as their #1. But I'm willing to bet there are less than half a dozen of those in the NCAA.
Sadly, can't much argue with this post... but that shouldn't prevent a coach from trying to build successful teams. I am pretty sure self-motivation is the key to success and happiness in life.
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You sound like a turd who's ever coached
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Bossier mama wrote:
Baltes vs Bathea (current assistant) would be quite a battle. It’s going to be an awkward year in Bloomington
There are tons of people who are very qualified to lead Indiana other than Beathea and Baltes.
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BadgerDad65 wrote:
You sound like a turd who's ever coached
Please translate this... sentence?
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Is there anything worthwhile about the evansville gig for an established coach? Facilities coming? Upgrade in scholarships? Even with the Valley being weak right now, they're a bad d3 program.
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Flagler College asst
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Thank you for sharing useful information.
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who’s taking Wisco? Haveman?
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