Modifying the Norwegian approach to lower mileage

Do the book. Id buy it. Many people will. There's already a dozen books out there I already know this would be better than, especially for a hobby jogger.

Considering some of the garbage much less knowledgeable people have shilled over the years, 15-20 bucks to have a book with everything in one place plus hopefully more of everything you have contributed would be gold. The least you deserve as something in return for what you have given a section of the running community.

You aren't talking a few books either, you would sell many thousands. This is probably the most interesting thing that's happened on Letsrun in decades.

+1 here. Pretty cynical about Letsrun in general these days but this thread just keeps on giving. It's not just the wealth of information, but the guy seems normal, doesn't take himself seriously and the journey alone should give everyone some hope being over 40 doesn't mean you can come from nowhere and start doing ridiculous things.

Put me down for a copy of the first run, If it ever happens. 15 euros for something like that to put to his beer fund is a good deal all round.

Can't disagree. Hard not to root for the guy tbh. I remember when this thread started I thought it was much of nothing. Big enough to admit I got that one wrong.

It's because it's so relatable. Most of us are older. Most past our best. Most dream of turning that around. This thread has given us the chance to try something different or dream we could turn it around in such a remarkable way thinking outside the box. It's worked for me. Somehow managed to turn back the ticking clock of time, implementing most of the information here and running in my late 40s like I was in my early 30s.

Would be stoked to have it in a book. This thread for those who actually understand it, is probably one of the best kept secrets in running today, but I'm definitely starting to hear it talked about outside LRC, Reddit, Strava. There is 3k+ on Strava alone in the group. Runners are notorious for recommending things. Even an E-book by sirpoc could probably easily reach 10k people.

It's pretty funny, usually these guys online are trying to sell us crap , yet I am probably one of many who is actually trying to encourage someone to sell us something that doesn't exist. Add that to the charm of the thread.

interesting that the author of The Easy Interval Method (EIM), of which there is a long running LetsRun thread, has recently found someone else was selling his method. The imposter didn’t even change the words around, but was selling it word for word.

That sucks. The one thing I do think, is you can't separate sirpoc from whatever people have started to call the NSM. If someone else wrote something, without the sirpoc touch its not the same. Besides, there's a ton of extras I'm sure that goes into his thinking that hasn't been shared.

I'm very glad he didn't decide to do a YouTube channel and go off piste. A book seems very on brand though and would be excellent in my view. He posts semi regular still, so someone should point him towards taking these comments on board. No idea if the book reference was a joke or not.

If this happens and he self-publishes rather than goes through a publisher, I'd be happy to contribute some editing time (I write professionally). Maybe others are in the same situation. I've seen a few books that would've been so much better with some careful proof reading/editing.

Including The Norwegian Method by Brad Culp! Jesus Christ, that is a weird one! I lost trust entirely after the first couple of chapters, not only due to his obsession with Vikings (actual Norwegians must have found it very strange) but because his history was utterly incorrect. The worst was this beauty:

There is just sooo much wrong here that it is hard to know where to start. I won't bore anyone with an introduction to English history, but let's just say that Godwinson must be spinning in his grave. How can you trust anything else that Culp says after that!?

Post #1 on this thread. Whatever happened to this jma fella that started this in July of ‘23? Funny thing is that he got 26 downvotes and only 19 upvotes haha. Now here we are, almost two years and 250 pages later. Someone will have to locate him for the Netflix documentary in 20 years 😂

Lactrace give an incredibly broad range of paces though, +/- 10 seconds. Which pace did you pick? Upper, lower, middle?

This is probably a top 10 weirdest threads ever on letsrun.com.

If you aren't competing at a top level, you probabaly don't need a very intricate training program. Just go run once or twice a day.

Wtf are you babbling about?

That still seems way too fast to me.

I'm running pretty much +2:00/km for all my easy runs. (5k pace is 3:13/km, easy runs are typically 5:15/km).

I don't know how people run that close to their race paces on easy days. Does it not feel like you're pushing?

You go by feel,on those days when you are more stressed or tired start by the slow end of recommended paces. If you feel better with every interval you increase a bit towards the fast end of recommended paces. If you do not feel better as the workout goes on,just do them all the way at the slower end.

There are those days when you feel flying,then start with the faster recommended paces,by do not exceed them even if you feel superb.

Is that a real quote from the book?

How on Earth does that get published?

Not a single editor picked that up. The American education system has a lot to answer for.

You know, what about if people have tried just about everything to improve and stagnated? Maybe they want to run faster? Doesn't everyone want to run faster?

Imagine if there was a guy, in theory, who ran 18:50 and was happy with that because he's not competing at the top level? And then just ran once or twice following random training plans and still was a 18:50 runner.

Then imagine there was a way that guy could run 15 flat and then ran a 2:24 marathon and imagine he's middle aged.

Then imagine that all that information was shared and it helped probably hundreds of others break through their own plateau.

Then imagine, once you get your head around it, it's not even that complicated but does require some understanding of knowledge and theories that aren't particularly mainstream when it comes to running training.

Then ask yourself, why wouldn't people be posting in this thread? Then ask when you look in the mirror. Damn, was it me who just made one of the weirdest posts to the thread?

Beelive it or not, I've had a publisher reach out to me. But it already started in "getting me out there" and that was already enough I needed to know. That's not me. I was advised to start a YouTube channel to help sales. I just cannot think of anything worse

The idea of something self released has appeal, there's no pressure then if it's total sh*t, I don't need to do anything with it other than allow the document to gather dust.

I can see the main appeal being everything in one place and I get what people are saying. It's just committing to it. The nice part is once it's done with all the stuff clarified and collated + some new stuff, I can vanish never to be seen again ha ha

The offer of an edit is much appreciated and something I would consider.

I would just feel bad publishing a book with everything that includes everything I've done and probably using NSM in the title. Only to tell everyone in the first paragraph - there is no such thing as the NSM. I'll end up with more downvotes than a lexel CS post.

Bump again! I wonder who is "loling" right now...