Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

agip wrote:

Anyone who votes for a Republican for any position anywhere is either naive, authoritarian or stupid.

There's no middle ground anymore. Trump and his Republicans are telling us that he will dismantle democracy if reelected. Full stop. You vote for them, you are a terrible, terrible American and seeking the destruction of our nation.

Jonathan Karl is a straight-news reporter. He talked with Bill Kristol this week about a Trump second term and Karl might as well have been Ian Bassin.
Why is Karl so alarmed that he sounds like a pro-democracy activist?
Because he’s spent the last year reporting on Trump. He’s interviewed Trump and loads of Republicans. He told Kristol that 95 percent of the sourcing for his book came from Republicans, many of whom worked for Trump. And the picture they painted for Karl was dystopian.
Acting appointments from top to bottom.
A cadre of thousands of political appointees, vetted for personal loyalty to Trump, replacing career civil servants.
An understanding among Trump lieutenants that they are free to break the law because they will be pardoned.
An overriding desire on the part of Trump to seek retribution against perceived enemies.
Again—and I cannot emphasize this enough—this is not a prediction from me and my weirdo, Never Trump friends. This is what the people who worked for Trump believe he will do.

Link:plus.thebulwark.com/p/theres-a-storm-c...

Link:www.wsj.com/politics/elections/trumps-...

Good post and good links.

Throughout history there have been many functioning democracies that have let their democracy crumble into some type of authoritarian government. We are not special we are not immune, it can happen here.

I do believe that there is a blindness, a character flaw in those who ignore what Trump says he will do to our legal and constitutional systems and who vote for him anyway.

This isn't a disagreement that I might have about government spending decisions, affirmation action, transgender stuff, taxes, mask wearing, border control, those arguments I understand.

This is about Trump using the government for retribution, for attacking democracy to stay in power and appointing those loyal to him above the law and constitution. These are things he has said he will do or has already done.

Yes, losing democracy can happen here just as it has in other countries. I bet many of them didn't see it coming either

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

agip wrote:

Anyone who votes for a Republican for any position anywhere is either naive, authoritarian or stupid.

There's no middle ground anymore. Trump and his Republicans are telling us that he will dismantle democracy if reelected. Full stop. You vote for them, you are a terrible, terrible American and seeking the destruction of our nation.

Jonathan Karl is a straight-news reporter. He talked with Bill Kristol this week about a Trump second term and Karl might as well have been Ian Bassin.
Why is Karl so alarmed that he sounds like a pro-democracy activist?
Because he’s spent the last year reporting on Trump. He’s interviewed Trump and loads of Republicans. He told Kristol that 95 percent of the sourcing for his book came from Republicans, many of whom worked for Trump. And the picture they painted for Karl was dystopian.
Acting appointments from top to bottom.
A cadre of thousands of political appointees, vetted for personal loyalty to Trump, replacing career civil servants.
An understanding among Trump lieutenants that they are free to break the law because they will be pardoned.
An overriding desire on the part of Trump to seek retribution against perceived enemies.
Again—and I cannot emphasize this enough—this is not a prediction from me and my weirdo, Never Trump friends. This is what the people who worked for Trump believe he will do.

Link:plus.thebulwark.com/p/theres-a-storm-c...

Link:www.wsj.com/politics/elections/trumps-...

Good post and good links.

Throughout history there have been many functioning democracies that have let their democracy crumble into some type of authoritarian government. We are not special we are not immune, it can happen here.

I do believe that there is a blindness, a character flaw in those who ignore what Trump says he will do to our legal and constitutional systems and who vote for him anyway.

This isn't a disagreement that I might have about government spending decisions, affirmation action, transgender stuff, taxes, mask wearing, border control, those arguments I understand.

This is about Trump using the government for retribution, for attacking democracy to stay in power and appointing those loyal to him above the law and constitution. These are things he has said he will do or has already done.

Yes, losing democracy can happen here just as it has in other countries. I bet many of them didn't see it coming either

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

Good post and good links.

Throughout history there have been many functioning democracies that have let their democracy crumble into some type of authoritarian government. We are not special we are not immune, it can happen here.

I do believe that there is a blindness, a character flaw in those who ignore what Trump says he will do to our legal and constitutional systems and who vote for him anyway.

This isn't a disagreement that I might have about government spending decisions, affirmation action, transgender stuff, taxes, mask wearing, border control, those arguments I understand.

This is about Trump using the government for retribution, for attacking democracy to stay in power and appointing those loyal to him above the law and constitution. These are things he has said he will do or has already done.

Yes, losing democracy can happen here just as it has in other countries. I bet many of them didn't see it coming either

The Democrats are trying to keep Trump from even appearing on the ballot all over the country.

The Democrats cancelled the primary in Florida to ensure that no one can challenge Biden's power. A trend other states will follow.

And here you are whining about authoritarianism.

The blindness and lack of character you're worried about is deeply ingrained in YOU.

You're worried Trump will get back in office and behave like YOU.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

Good post and good links.

Throughout history there have been many functioning democracies that have let their democracy crumble into some type of authoritarian government. We are not special we are not immune, it can happen here.

I do believe that there is a blindness, a character flaw in those who ignore what Trump says he will do to our legal and constitutional systems and who vote for him anyway.

This isn't a disagreement that I might have about government spending decisions, affirmation action, transgender stuff, taxes, mask wearing, border control, those arguments I understand.

This is about Trump using the government for retribution, for attacking democracy to stay in power and appointing those loyal to him above the law and constitution. These are things he has said he will do or has already done.

Yes, losing democracy can happen here just as it has in other countries. I bet many of them didn't see it coming either

The Democrats are trying to keep Trump from even appearing on the ballot all over the country.

The Democrats cancelled the primary in Florida to ensure that no one can challenge Biden's power. A trend other states will follow.

And here you are whining about authoritarianism.

The blindness and lack of character you're worried about is deeply ingrained in YOU.

You're worried Trump will get back in office and behave like YOU.

Sally Vix wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The Democrats are trying to keep Trump from even appearing on the ballot all over the country.

The Democrats cancelled the primary in Florida to ensure that no one can challenge Biden's power. A trend other states will follow.

And here you are whining about authoritarianism.

The blindness and lack of character you're worried about is deeply ingrained in YOU.

You're worried Trump will get back in office and behave like YOU.

The Dems/Libs are petrified that the Donald may be on the ballot because they know Biden can not beat him. They were deranged for 4 years after Trump won in 2016 and are still deranged today. Watch the Late Show and Seth Myers - the whole show of the 2 are just about trashing Trump. The NY AG has been proven to be a fraud as well as the Ga. one. The Trump momentum is building and I think won't be able to be stopped. When Trump is re-elected next year I envision most of the Dems/Libs lying on the floor in the fetal position and just whimpering assumes the presidency. It will be interesting to see that all the Libs who promised to leave the country in 2016 like Babs S and Amy Shumer and Cher the rest who never did leave will make the same empty promises and continue living in their $20 million Malibu mansions. Have no respect for Dems/Libs -- just phonies.

BibleThumpedHatred wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The Democrats are trying to keep Trump from even appearing on the ballot all over the country.

The Democrats cancelled the primary in Florida to ensure that no one can challenge Biden's power. A trend other states will follow.

And here you are whining about authoritarianism.

The blindness and lack of character you're worried about is deeply ingrained in YOU.

You're worried Trump will get back in office and behave like YOU.

Democrats are trying to keep trump off the ballot via legal battles an are accepting the decisions of the court.

Trump and his cronies dismantled USPS sorting machines to stop mail in votes prior to the election, encouraged violence against campaigning democrats. When he lost anyway, his team filed and lost 60+ legal challenges and never produce any credible evidence of widespread fraud. He called state election officials to change the vote count, his team tried to break into voting machines, appointed fake electors, tried to get the VP to refuse to ratify, encouraged on a mob to break into the Capital to stop the ratification and hang the VP while they were at it for NOT breaking the law.

Since leaving office, he has repeatedly stated that he will use the justice dept. to punish his rivals. Not an empty threat when he has already tried this while in office. He won't make the mistake of appointing people who hold the law higher than him next time.

Biden is the current President. It is not unusual for the party to forego primaries. Few are bothered by this outside of frothing at the mouth trumpers who deep down know that Biden whipped trump like a rented mule in the last election and is likely to repeat.

Kokinho wrote:

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

Good post and good links.

Throughout history there have been many functioning democracies that have let their democracy crumble into some type of authoritarian government. We are not special we are not immune, it can happen here.

I do believe that there is a blindness, a character flaw in those who ignore what Trump says he will do to our legal and constitutional systems and who vote for him anyway.

This isn't a disagreement that I might have about government spending decisions, affirmation action, transgender stuff, taxes, mask wearing, border control, those arguments I understand.

This is about Trump using the government for retribution, for attacking democracy to stay in power and appointing those loyal to him above the law and constitution. These are things he has said he will do or has already done.

Yes, losing democracy can happen here just as it has in other countries. I bet many of them didn't see it coming either

Democracy is cringe. I don't believe we're a democracy and don't care. Ukraine isn't a democracy either yet we've pushed them to sacrifice 250,000 people to "protect democracy." And spend billions of our own dollars and military resources protecting their non-democracy because we don't like the other team.

BibleThumpedHatred wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The Democrats are trying to keep Trump from even appearing on the ballot all over the country.

The Democrats cancelled the primary in Florida to ensure that no one can challenge Biden's power. A trend other states will follow.

And here you are whining about authoritarianism.

The blindness and lack of character you're worried about is deeply ingrained in YOU.

You're worried Trump will get back in office and behave like YOU.

Democrats are trying to keep trump off the ballot via legal battles an are accepting the decisions of the court.

Trump and his cronies dismantled USPS sorting machines to stop mail in votes prior to the election, encouraged violence against campaigning democrats. When he lost anyway, his team filed and lost 60+ legal challenges and never produce any credible evidence of widespread fraud. He called state election officials to change the vote count, his team tried to break into voting machines, appointed fake electors, tried to get the VP to refuse to ratify, encouraged on a mob to break into the Capital to stop the ratification and hang the VP while they were at it for NOT breaking the law.

Since leaving office, he has repeatedly stated that he will use the justice dept. to punish his rivals. Not an empty threat when he has already tried this while in office. He won't make the mistake of appointing people who hold the law higher than him next time.

Biden is the current President. It is not unusual for the party to forego primaries. Few are bothered by this outside of frothing at the mouth trumpers who deep down know that Biden whipped trump like a rented mule in the last election and is likely to repeat.

Tristan Da Cunha wrote:

BibleThumpedHatred wrote:

Democrats are trying to keep trump off the ballot via legal battles an are accepting the decisions of the court.

Trump and his cronies dismantled USPS sorting machines to stop mail in votes prior to the election, encouraged violence against campaigning democrats. When he lost anyway, his team filed and lost 60+ legal challenges and never produce any credible evidence of widespread fraud. He called state election officials to change the vote count, his team tried to break into voting machines, appointed fake electors, tried to get the VP to refuse to ratify, encouraged on a mob to break into the Capital to stop the ratification and hang the VP while they were at it for NOT breaking the law.

Since leaving office, he has repeatedly stated that he will use the justice dept. to punish his rivals. Not an empty threat when he has already tried this while in office. He won't make the mistake of appointing people who hold the law higher than him next time.

Biden is the current President. It is not unusual for the party to forego primaries. Few are bothered by this outside of frothing at the mouth trumpers who deep down know that Biden whipped trump like a rented mule in the last election and is likely to repeat.

Yes very well stated. What the Dems have done does not compare with the law breaking of Trump's attempts.

Adultinroom is looking for rationalizations to justify his support of someone who refused to leave power peacefully, who is putting together a list of loyalists to Trump rather than the country and who tells us he will use his power to meet his retribution goals.

To ignore all this does reflect a character flaw or an amazing level of blindness