OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

CriticalThoughts wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Democrats have been cheating big time.

Provide some evidence. I won't claim democrats have never tried to modify election outcomes. However, in recent years, the republicans and Trump are doing much more in that regard.

Here are a few election facts about Trump. In 2016, he said he would not accept the results of an election he lost. In 2020, he refused to accept the election he lost. To that end, He had his lawyers draw up fake elector documents and asked his VP to choose those instead of those selected by the will of the people. He called multiple election officials asking them to change or refuse to ratify votes without evidence of fraud. He lost 60 election fraud cases for failing to produce evidence of fraud. When all those failed, his team got in touch with the proud boys and set up a rally on Jan 6. They coordinated the mob and he got them riled up to "take back" the country. He had metal detectors removed. They then assaulted and injured 150 police officers and vandalized the Capital. Several of his lawyers pled guilty to conspiracy to overturn an election. He has now pardoned the cop beaters and commuted the sentences of people convicted of seditious conspiracy on his behalf.

Again, Facts. Not debatable. You can believe that democrats are "worse" all you want, but this is what you are supporting instead.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

CriticalThoughts wrote:

Provide some evidence. I won't claim democrats have never tried to modify election outcomes. However, in recent years, the republicans and Trump are doing much more in that regard.

Here are a few election facts about Trump. In 2016, he said he would not accept the results of an election he lost. In 2020, he refused to accept the election he lost. To that end, He had his lawyers draw up fake elector documents and asked his VP to choose those instead of those selected by the will of the people. He called multiple election officials asking them to change or refuse to ratify votes without evidence of fraud. He lost 60 election fraud cases for failing to produce evidence of fraud. When all those failed, his team got in touch with the proud boys and set up a rally on Jan 6. They coordinated the mob and he got them riled up to "take back" the country. He had metal detectors removed. They then assaulted and injured 150 police officers and vandalized the Capital. Several of his lawyers pled guilty to conspiracy to overturn an election. He has now pardoned the cop beaters and commuted the sentences of people convicted of seditious conspiracy on his behalf.

Again, Facts. Not debatable. You can believe that democrats are "worse" all you want, but this is what you are supporting instead.

Easy, no voter ID, promote mail in ballots. Why? Cannot win legitimately.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

CriticalThoughts wrote:

Provide some evidence. I won't claim democrats have never tried to modify election outcomes. However, in recent years, the republicans and Trump are doing much more in that regard.

Here are a few election facts about Trump. In 2016, he said he would not accept the results of an election he lost. In 2020, he refused to accept the election he lost. To that end, He had his lawyers draw up fake elector documents and asked his VP to choose those instead of those selected by the will of the people. He called multiple election officials asking them to change or refuse to ratify votes without evidence of fraud. He lost 60 election fraud cases for failing to produce evidence of fraud. When all those failed, his team got in touch with the proud boys and set up a rally on Jan 6. They coordinated the mob and he got them riled up to "take back" the country. He had metal detectors removed. They then assaulted and injured 150 police officers and vandalized the Capital. Several of his lawyers pled guilty to conspiracy to overturn an election. He has now pardoned the cop beaters and commuted the sentences of people convicted of seditious conspiracy on his behalf.

Again, Facts. Not debatable. You can believe that democrats are "worse" all you want, but this is what you are supporting instead.

Easy, no voter ID, promote mail in ballots. Why? Cannot win legitimately.

BillionairesForHire wrote:

Oldrunningguy wrote:

Linda Hasenfratz, the executive chairwoman of the Canadian auto parts maker Linamar, said that the 25 percent tariffs President Trump intends to impose tomorrow on exports from Canada and Mexico could shut down North American auto production within a week.
"Nobody can absorb this kind of cost, not the automakers, not the suppliers, not consumers," Hasenfratz, whose Canada-based company has plants in all three countries, said in a statement to The New York Times. "Demand will collapse, and vehicle production will grind to a halt, putting millions of workers out of work, the vast majority of which are in the U.S."

Trump has little to no understanding of macro economics. He either thinks tarrifs will work or thinks they are a good bargaining chip, neither of which is true.

I know a CEO of a medium size company who normally votes republican. His company will change their price sheet the same percentage as tarrifs the day they go into effect. If not, they would go from profitable to 15% in the red overnight. If it lasts more than a few months, he expects to have to do layoffs as demand drops with rising prices.

CriticalThoughts wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Easy, no voter ID, promote mail in ballots. Why? Cannot win legitimately.

You ignored every fact about the Republican cheating. Your response is vague hand waiving.

One ballot was sent per one registered individual. There has been no credible evidence of mass collection of these for nefarious purposes. It would be extremely hard to do on a large scale because it would require either intercepting before delivery or collecting from individual addresses. Neither is feasible on a large scale.

In person voting without ID: Again, people would have to know the names and addresses of people who were not going to vote to get away with voting for someone else. People are caught when they try to vote twice. In fact, several republicans were caught for that so it is not the one sided problem you believe it is. It happens, but it is not a large scale problem.

Again, go ahead and believe democrats are worse, but you have to ignore facts about republican attempts to cheat to believe it.

right results wrote:

CriticalThoughts wrote:

You ignored every fact about the Republican cheating. Your response is vague hand waiving.

One ballot was sent per one registered individual. There has been no credible evidence of mass collection of these for nefarious purposes. It would be extremely hard to do on a large scale because it would require either intercepting before delivery or collecting from individual addresses. Neither is feasible on a large scale.

In person voting without ID: Again, people would have to know the names and addresses of people who were not going to vote to get away with voting for someone else. People are caught when they try to vote twice. In fact, several republicans were caught for that so it is not the one sided problem you believe it is. It happens, but it is not a large scale problem.

Again, go ahead and believe democrats are worse, but you have to ignore facts about republican attempts to cheat to believe it.

You are a raging hypocrite, nothing more. Democrats cater to minorities for votes and if you can't understand what Democrats did to their own party, well....you need to hush and be quiet.