Runningart2004 wrote:
Trump, 95 in 2.06 yrs. 46.11 per year.
Obama, 276 in 8 yrs, 34.5 per year.
Bush, 291 in 8 yrs, 36.37 per year
Clinton, 364, 45.5 per year
Should I keep going? Reagan had more than Clinton. FDR has the most ever.
Alan
These differences do not appear to be significant enough to warrant noting. If it was 10x or even 2x then maybe worth noting. But 40-something vs 30-something? Meh.
agip wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/bill-weld-2020-exploratory-committee/index.htmlThis is bad news for Trump.
Doesn't mean Weld will beat Trump in the primary. Just the fact that someone significant is challenging him is bad news and one of the factors that determines if he can win the General election in 2020.
Not surprising. There really is no more good news for Trump.
I think Weld is taking one for the team - breaking the wind, being a test balloon, whatever you want to call it, to try to get Rs to take on Spanks in the R primary. Weld knows he can't win - he just hopes he can prove that taking on the cult figure in the WH isn't fatal and that you can make some progress. Showing the way, taking the first fire, testing some ideas. That maybe rebel Rs can use in primary.
Assuming Trump is still eligible to run, I don't think any Republican can beat him in the primary. The idea that anyone of note runs against him in the primary though is one of the things that spells doom for him in the general election.
Flagpole wrote:
Assuming Trump is still eligible to run, I don't think any Republican can beat him in the primary. The idea that anyone of note runs against him in the primary though is one of the things that spells doom for him in the general election.
If Trump will not make it to the general election (as has been guaranteed by someone around here) then the above would seem to be entirely moot.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Democrats (aka gays) lose again!!!!
Trump sounds unhinged in his press conference today. Obama was going to go to war with North Korea? #prayforamerica
I don't know how anyone can watch this press conference and not come to the conclusion that the president of the US is actually retarded.
P wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Trump, 95 in 2.06 yrs. 46.11 per year.
Obama, 276 in 8 yrs, 34.5 per year.
Bush, 291 in 8 yrs, 36.37 per year
Clinton, 364, 45.5 per year
Should I keep going? Reagan had more than Clinton. FDR has the most ever.
Alan
These differences do not appear to be significant enough to warrant noting. If it was 10x or even 2x then maybe worth noting. But 40-something vs 30-something? Meh.
Meh. You’re right. It’s not really that big a deal.....until certain people go all crazy over Obama’s use of executive power....then it becomes important to point out he’s been no better nor worse than others before him and actually used executive orders less than his predecessors.
Of course not all orders are created equally.
When you use an order, or national emergency, to circumvent the action or inaction by Congress, that is WRONG, that is ABUSE OF POWER. It was wrong when Obama did it on immigration. Trump and Pence and others raked him over the coals for that one. Here we are and Trump is doing the same thing only this time he’s violating the Constitution.
It’s a win/win. McConnell is the master. He knows what he’s doing. No Shutdown. Let Trump do this. It will be stopped and tied up in the courts until the election anyway.
There will be a vote in the House and the Senate to stop it. It likely won’t get the 2/3rds it needs to prevent veto. But the people will have spoken.
Either way, the Wall won’t be built.
Alan
"Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress." - Donald J. Trump, Nov. 2014
"Trump made the comments on Fox News' "Fox and Friends" in November 2014 when asked about executive actions by then-President Barack Obama that would halt deportations for the undocumented parents of children born in the United States.
"Now he has to use executive action and this is a very, very dangerous thing that should be overwritten easily by the Supreme Court," Trump said.
"So we're looking now at a situation, it should absolutely not pass muster in terms of constitutionality, but it depends on what these justices do," he added.
The White House did not return a request for comment.
Trump was also asked if the Obama had committed any impeachable offenses. He said Obama could certainly be impeached for his executive action on immigration."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/kfile-trump-immigration-executive-action-2014/index.html
Racket wrote:
I don't know how anyone can watch this press conference and not come to the conclusion that the president of the US is actually retarded.
Obama: "We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone."
And then libs cheered!
Trump has triggered lib insanity.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Racket wrote:
I don't know how anyone can watch this press conference and not come to the conclusion that the president of the US is actually retarded.
Obama: "We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone."
And then libs cheered!
Trump has triggered lib insanity.
Did you think Obama was wrong?
If so, do you similarly think Trump is wrong?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Racket wrote:
I don't know how anyone can watch this press conference and not come to the conclusion that the president of the US is actually retarded.
Obama: "We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone."
And then libs cheered!
Trump has triggered lib insanity.
A post by Sally depending you will soon appear. You two always post during the same timeframes, and you are both slobbering Trumper boys.
IQ 45 said Obama added more debt than all other presidents combined. 8.56T was added in 8 years ending at 20.2T... genius not so good at math is he?
Meanwhile Trump has added 1.23T each of the last two years, more than Obama’s annual average of 1.07T and on pace for almost 10T if he did 8 years... without any recession and with lots of economic tailwind. Go ahead Rigged, respond.
Past presidents have declared state of emergencies for OTHER countries: Clinton for Burma, Obama for Burundi. Trump is not a globalist & is doing it for the American people.
That's the difference, America First!
http://time.com/5496270/presidents-history-national-emergency/
Dumba$$ Trump said his own numbers are fake news. DumbMFers believe him
Rigged by Sally wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Obama: "We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone."
And then libs cheered!
Trump has triggered lib insanity.
A post by Sally depending you will soon appear. You two always post during the same timeframes, and you are both slobbering Trumper boys.
I think Trump is a big, fat buffoon. I have a number of reservations about Trump authorizing an emergency declaration because it sets a very bad precedent that the Democrats will use once they regain the presidency. The Democrats were for a wall before but now against MERELY because Trump is the president. Again, I really can't stand Trump but he/his policies have been good for the country.
Sally Vix wrote:
Rigged by Sally wrote:
A post by Sally depending you will soon appear. You two always post during the same timeframes, and you are both slobbering Trumper boys.
I think Trump is a big, fat buffoon. I have a number of reservations about Trump authorizing an emergency declaration because it sets a very bad precedent that the Democrats will use once they regain the presidency. The Democrats were for a wall before but now against MERELY because Trump is the president. Again, I really can't stand Trump but he/his policies have been good for the country.
Remember how the former Senate majority leader Harry Reid first employed the nuclear option and changed the votes needed for a Senate affirmation to simply a majority? Well, it came back to bite them in the buttt. Two conservative Supreme Court nominees were easily confirmed because of that. Well, this emergency declaration by Trump may come back to bite the Republicans in the behind.
Beto 'OLunatic wants the existing wall torn down. That sounds like an open border democrat to me.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/i-d-take-wall-down-says-beto-o-rourke-current-n971896
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Past presidents have declared state of emergencies for OTHER countries: Clinton for Burma, Obama for Burundi. Trump is not a globalist & is doing it for the American people.
That's the difference, America First!
http://time.com/5496270/presidents-history-national-emergency/
Please return to reality.
When Clinton declared a state of emergency for Burma, it was to impose sanctions. Those sanctions were reinforced/tightened by GWB. When Obama declared a state of emergency for Burundi, it was to impose sanctions - "President Obama on Monday imposed sanctions against four government officials of Burundi for threatening U.S. national security and human rights violations, ..." Sounds pretty America First to me.
Trump has done the exact same thing with Iran. And he should be doing the same thing with Russia, but he's not really "America First" when it comes to Russia.
To compare what Trump is doing now to any of these things is beyond apples to oranges.
Rigged by Sally wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Obama: "We’re not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help they need. I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone."
And then libs cheered!
Trump has triggered lib insanity.
A post by Sally depending you will soon appear. You two always post during the same timeframes, and you are both slobbering Trumper boys.
Rigged is a Trumpette, through and through.
Sally is not someone with whom I agree very often. But I don't think it is fair to consider him to be a Trumpette. He often says reasonable things. Rigged? - not so much.