Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Ok so maybe I’m wrong about the Green New Deal. Polls show it has vast public support. Even when asking for a tax on carbon emissions polls show support by +5%.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/421765-poll-majorities-of-both-parties-support-green-new-deal

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c54c97ce4b08710475376b4

Yes, I’m aware polls can be flawed.

Going back to the 2016 election and California. Stop chewing on that bone. It’s done. Yes California is a large state. In fact it has more voters than ANY other state. Sometimes even more voters than multiple states combined. Similarly we could combine the Deep South into one state and call it BluesAndDisco and then we could comment on how many votes the Republicans get from BluesAndDisco and how the only reason why they get so many votes is because of BluesAndDisco. See how silly that sounds?

Alan

Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/12/trump-speaks-after-nato-summit-stable-genius-newday-vpx.cnn

Rigged you military? Not many would bring up an ASVAB reference.

For the record I scored in the 99th percentile.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Ok so maybe I’m wrong about the Green New Deal. Polls show it has vast public support. Even when asking for a tax on carbon emissions polls show support by +5%.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/421765-poll-majorities-of-both-parties-support-green-new-dealhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c54c97ce4b08710475376b4

Yes, I’m aware polls can be flawed.

Going back to the 2016 election and California. Stop chewing on that bone. It’s done. Yes California is a large state. In fact it has more voters than ANY other state. Sometimes even more voters than multiple states combined. Similarly we could combine the Deep South into one state and call it BluesAndDisco and then we could comment on how many votes the Republicans get from BluesAndDisco and how the only reason why they get so many votes is because of BluesAndDisco. See how silly that sounds?

Alan

Y’all are aware that the much maligned Al Gore essentially proposed the green new deal 20 years ago, right? It was obvious in the late 90s that the rate at which China and India were modernizing that they would run into the same problems with pollution that the US saw in the 50-70s. Had we—as a country—pivoted to renewable technology or at least diversified our energy investments we could have made a killing in overseas marketable AND helped the environment.

Of course, for that to have worked we would’ve had to address the fact of forced technology transfer by the Chinese a long time ago.

Now, we are way behind the Chinese in regards to this technology and falling further behind everyday as Washington gets bog down in ridiculous arguments about a border wall and abortion. Thanks a lot RWNJs...

Trumpers have changed their tune. Whatever happened to "drain the swamp"?

Don't hear much of that anymore.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

You're consistently wrong & terminally stupid, mister lowest percentile ASVAB scorer. Your PTSD combined with TDS- left untreated is a dangerous thing. During the 2016 election season, when all the Cankle voters were celebrating a "can't miss victory", I was the one of only Trump supporters who remained steadfast the entire time. I never ran away, hid or created handles. Clownpole, on the otherhand, ran away like a sissy boy and then came back with another can't miss fantasy, "collusion."

Get this through your thick heads, libs and unregistered lib trolls- I am RFH and I am here for the duration. You will all witness a deluge of Flagpolian Flops when your boy, Clownpole strikes out again.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

M-A-G-A!!!

Rigged you military? Not many would bring up an ASVAB reference.

For the record I scored in the 99th percentile.

Alan

No. Never served but most of us civilians have heard about military personnel taking the ASVAB test.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged you military? Not many would bring up an ASVAB reference.

For the record I scored in the 99th percentile.

Alan

No. Never served but most of us civilians have heard about military personnel taking the ASVAB test.

Meh. I think most is a stretch, unless you have military in your family.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

No. Never served but most of us civilians have heard about military personnel taking the ASVAB test.

Meh. I think most is a stretch, unless you have military in your family.

Alan

He most likely heard about it while driving through the endless high-rise in the Chinese countryside.

Fat hurts wrote:

Ciro wrote:

Regardless of party affiliation, are Republicans ok with this?

I really think you should demand better.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-campaign-paid-legal-fees-firm-representing-jared-173506767.html

Hmm. Jared Kushner is worth an estimated $800 million. He obviously can't afford a lawyer.

So when the Trumpers bought a red hat or contributed to the campaign, they were really paying Jared's legal bills.

Nobody likes to get suckered. But also, nobody likes to admit they were suckered.

Trumpers, how do you feel about this?

It's doubtful any of his followers will respond. They just ignore the stuff they don't like. Jared Kushner the son of a democrat donor is having his legal fees paid for by donations from average Trump supporters.

Talk about been duped.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

No. Never served but most of us civilians have heard about military personnel taking the ASVAB test.

Meh. I think most is a stretch, unless you have military in your family.

Alan

A former co-worker served in the Marines, as well as a nephew & high school buddy. They were all "squared away."

As you were, soldier.

China continues to pollute the air magnitudes worse than ever did and it continues with no end in sight. This New Green Deal sounds great on the surface but once people study it in greater detail, it will be ultimately rejected. This harebrained plan was hatched in la la land: health care for all, a guaranteed a job for every American whether they want to work or not (LOL!!!), retrofit every building to "green", etc. This is socialism no matter how much you leftists try to spin it.

This is going to cost trillion$, result in massively higher taxes and a massive fail for the dem 2020 nominee.

This is DOA.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Ok so maybe I’m wrong about the Green New Deal. Polls show it has vast public support. Even when asking for a tax on carbon emissions polls show support by +5%.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/421765-poll-majorities-of-both-parties-support-green-new-dealhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c54c97ce4b08710475376b4

Yes, I’m aware polls can be flawed.

Going back to the 2016 election and California. Stop chewing on that bone. It’s done. Yes California is a large state. In fact it has more voters than ANY other state. Sometimes even more voters than multiple states combined. Similarly we could combine the Deep South into one state and call it BluesAndDisco and then we could comment on how many votes the Republicans get from BluesAndDisco and how the only reason why they get so many votes is because of BluesAndDisco. See how silly that sounds?

Alan

I don't understand how anyone could take AOC seriously. Her plan outlines changing the U.S. into a utopia, but without any detail as to how it anything would be paid. It should have been reviewed by economists and a coherent outline would have taken months to complete.

She seems to believe her having received 110,000 votes is confirmation of her ability to save the world. However, to date she seems like a liberal Sarah Palin. I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I wish she would just go away.

Yeah her and the “Democratic Socialist” wing of the party is basically a response to the Tea Party. Equally as nuts, just on the other far side.

Parts of the right will call anything even remotely left of center “socialist” trying to feed on fear. It’s politics so it is what it is.

Military living is very socialist, at least parts, if going by the GOP definition...

I get a “housing allowance”....free government money for housing.

I get free healthcare....paid for by the government through taxes.

I get to move across the country...for free! Paid moving expenses...again paid for through taxes.

I get free college...up to a point.

I think many simply just need to revisit what Socialism actually is.

Alan

Fat hurts wrote:

As for jobs, you answered your own question. According to Forbes, solar already employs more than coal, oil, and gas combined. And ditching fossil fuels will require hundreds of thousands more workers than we have right now. In 2017, solar provided 1.3% of US power. Wind provided 6.3%. As we ramp that up, we will need huge numbers of installers and engineers.

So we get cheaper, cleaner energy and we get hundreds of thousands of good jobs.

Aren't you the guy who constantly advocates the notion that solar power will be essentially free? But at the same time there will be hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs associated with solar power? You do realize that these are mutually exclusive, right?

Touting the massive numbers of high paying jobs in solar ("already more than coal, oil and gas combined") is basically admitting that solar is VERY expensive. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

Fiscal Conservatism died with the Reagan tax cuts. NEITHER side has been serious about curbing spending for decades. They will use funny math to show tht whatever they want to spend money on will be paid for. The right cries about all of the government programs and government waste. The left cries about the bloated military.

Just print more money and watch an empire crumble!

Alan

Literally everything costs money.

All forms of energy currently rely on government subsidies of one kind or another.

Solar and wind are now as cheap as fossil fuels (likely to get cheaper).

So it comes down to what sort of society and infrastructure people want to build for the future.

econ reality wrote:

Econ 101 wrote:

Aren't you the guy who constantly advocates the notion that solar power will be essentially free? But at the same time there will be hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs associated with solar power? You do realize that these are mutually exclusive, right?

Touting the massive numbers of high paying jobs in solar ("already more than coal, oil and gas combined") is basically admitting that solar is VERY expensive. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

Literally everything costs money.

All forms of energy currently rely on government subsidies of one kind or another.

Solar and wind are now as cheap as fossil fuels (likely to get cheaper).

So it comes down to what sort of society and infrastructure people want to build for the future.

It’s also a question of cost and jobs.

What jobs will the former coal and oil workers get with their limited skill set?

Where will the money come from to retrofit buildings?

I think making every car electric is a great idea but again that costs money and the infrastructure, which doesn’t exist in large capacity, costs money.

The government doesn’t have the money for this and the market has shown to not support it enough to matter. One thing you could do is to force the market’s hand by imposing large taxes on those industries which create the largest carbon emissions and create more tax breaks and subsidies for the opposite until those companies switch to a more green friendly industry.

Just throwing out ideas.

Alan

Econ 101 wrote:

Aren't you the guy who constantly advocates the notion that solar power will be essentially free? But at the same time there will be hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs associated with solar power? You do realize that these are mutually exclusive, right?

Touting the massive numbers of high paying jobs in solar ("already more than coal, oil and gas combined") is basically admitting that solar is VERY expensive. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

^ Reeks of like Hardloper.

You are an economics FAILURE. Coal, oil, and natural gas are essentially "free". All you have to do is dig them up, and then distribute it where it is needed--is that "free". And they only exist in certain places. But there is only so much of those you can dig up. The sun shines everywhere*, and the sun is expect to shine for several more billion years.

* The sun shines everywhere except in the cave that Trump will soon build in lieu of his wall.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I don't understand how anyone could take AOC seriously. Her plan outlines changing the U.S. into a utopia, but without any detail as to how it anything would be paid. It should have been reviewed by economists and a coherent outline would have taken months to complete.

She seems to believe her having received 110,000 votes is confirmation of her ability to save the world. However, to date she seems like a liberal Sarah Palin. I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I wish she would just go away.

I'm with you on that, Aztec. It is pretty embarrassing.

On the bright side, if you think of it more as discussion points, thinking outside the box, just to get some discussions started and perhaps some good (and realistic) ideas come out the other end then maybe it's not so bad.