He did address it but it was in the middle of the video and he didn't really address the why point. He just said he'd made a decision and wanted to do his own thing. He obviously didn't say anything negative about TRC (and would be daft to do so).
Anybody seen the latest Chris Howett video? Really great video of him smashing his PB in Copenhagen marathon getting a 2:43 - also he tries out the exoskeleton which seems excellent,
thinking of buying one for my autumn marathon but also will use it in 5k, 10k, half races too I think
Regards Floberg’s latest video, is there anything more irritating than people claim that they were in “X:XX shape” for a race that they actually ran several minutes slower than their claimed “shape”?
racing is a skill, pacing is a skill, nutrition is a skill… it’s a whole package. If you ran a race in 2:34, then you were in 2:34 shape. That’s it, Eric, that’s the whole story. Everyone feels like they left some time out there on the course, that’s part of it. Doesn’t change the facts.
Allie O's latest video showed her pretty disappointed with her pacing efforts in Portland. I really think she overtrained through her shin injury. Biking is low impact, but the high intensity she was doing it at really isn't conducive to healing. Sad to see that Roche seemed to be encouraging it rather than suggesting she chill and heal
Allie O's latest video showed her pretty disappointed with her pacing efforts in Portland. I really think she overtrained through her shin injury. Biking is low impact, but the high intensity she was doing it at really isn't conducive to healing. Sad to see that Roche seemed to be encouraging it rather than suggesting she chill and heal
1. she hasnt run steeple since last yr...literally
2. she's been minimally on a track in the last couple of months
I like Allie, but she seemed kinda nonchalant in her pacing duties. If I'm expected to hold a standard for others, I take it seriously, as I would want if someone were pacing me.
Regards Floberg’s latest video, is there anything more irritating than people claim that they were in “X:XX shape” for a race that they actually ran several minutes slower than their claimed “shape”?
racing is a skill, pacing is a skill, nutrition is a skill… it’s a whole package. If you ran a race in 2:34, then you were in 2:34 shape. That’s it, Eric, that’s the whole story. Everyone feels like they left some time out there on the course, that’s part of it. Doesn’t change the facts.
I've said it before but the guy doesn't understand or respect the marathon or marathon training.
What about his training suggested he was in 2:30 shape or whatever he thinks? A marathon "pace" effort in training when he ran way, way too fast and was throwing up?
Regards Floberg’s latest video, is there anything more irritating than people claim that they were in “X:XX shape” for a race that they actually ran several minutes slower than their claimed “shape”?
racing is a skill, pacing is a skill, nutrition is a skill… it’s a whole package. If you ran a race in 2:34, then you were in 2:34 shape. That’s it, Eric, that’s the whole story. Everyone feels like they left some time out there on the course, that’s part of it. Doesn’t change the facts.
I've said it before but the guy doesn't understand or respect the marathon or marathon training.
What about his training suggested he was in 2:30 shape or whatever he thinks? A marathon "pace" effort in training when he ran way, way too fast and was throwing up?
You have indeed said it before. Multiple times. Almost like you’re obsessed with the guy. My bet is he does break 2:30 at some point in the next couple of years and then you will start attacking him for not breaking sub 2:20.
What is your marathon PB by the way ? And let’s have an honest answer please
I've said it before but the guy doesn't understand or respect the marathon or marathon training.
What about his training suggested he was in 2:30 shape or whatever he thinks? A marathon "pace" effort in training when he ran way, way too fast and was throwing up?
You have indeed said it before. Multiple times. Almost like you’re obsessed with the guy. My bet is he does break 2:30 at some point in the next couple of years and then you will start attacking him for not breaking sub 2:20.
What is your marathon PB by the way ? And let’s have an honest answer please
What does someone's marathon PB have to do with their knowledge of a sport?
Was Bill Belichick a great NFL player?
Does one need to have won the Kentucky Derby to have an expert opinion on horse racing?
I am not doubting if he will or wont break 2:30. He may well, I'd suggest he gets bored of running and find something else to do before this happens but if he does then well done to him.
The issue many of us have with Floberg in particular is the utter over stated drama of it all. He is the running equivalent of a golfer shooting 90. He is not elite, nor sub elite, he is just a normal guy running. Millions of us do it, thousands, upon thousands hit sub 2:30. Indeed when Mr Floberg hit his PR at Chicago 2024 there were about 240 people ahead of him. Most with real jobs and lives who didnt feel the need to film themselves throwing up because they ran a "marathon effort run" way, way too fast.
He is using running to make money. His youtube, his BPN sellout and the fact he is charging $120 a month or some ridiculous amount for his "coaching" says it all - He didnt "love the grind" before his sub 3, before his youtube views increased. He was trying to hit his goals on minimal mileage because he was making money elsewhere.
I bet you have a "cool" mustache and "hip" mullet like Floberg too and wear a "go one more" tshirt, juiced up to your eyeballs in BPN "Special Sauce"
It's difficult to please everyone from total beginners to sub-elites. I thought their latest video, on Andy's psychology when he was competing, is worth watching.
You have indeed said it before. Multiple times. Almost like you’re obsessed with the guy. My bet is he does break 2:30 at some point in the next couple of years and then you will start attacking him for not breaking sub 2:20.
What is your marathon PB by the way ? And let’s have an honest answer please
What does someone's marathon PB have to do with their knowledge of a sport?
Was Bill Belichick a great NFL player?
Does one need to have won the Kentucky Derby to have an expert opinion on horse racing?
I am not doubting if he will or wont break 2:30. He may well, I'd suggest he gets bored of running and find something else to do before this happens but if he does then well done to him.
The issue many of us have with Floberg in particular is the utter over stated drama of it all. He is the running equivalent of a golfer shooting 90. He is not elite, nor sub elite, he is just a normal guy running. Millions of us do it, thousands, upon thousands hit sub 2:30. Indeed when Mr Floberg hit his PR at Chicago 2024 there were about 240 people ahead of him. Most with real jobs and lives who didnt feel the need to film themselves throwing up because they ran a "marathon effort run" way, way too fast.
He is using running to make money. His youtube, his BPN sellout and the fact he is charging $120 a month or some ridiculous amount for his "coaching" says it all - He didnt "love the grind" before his sub 3, before his youtube views increased. He was trying to hit his goals on minimal mileage because he was making money elsewhere.
I bet you have a "cool" mustache and "hip" mullet like Floberg too and wear a "go one more" tshirt, juiced up to your eyeballs in BPN "Special Sauce"
I do always find it remarkable to see how thin skinned some people on here are.
This onelegshorter poster for example - posts multiple messages criticising and sneering at running youtubers (which he still watches for some reason) - yet takes a bit of critiscm himself and has a complete meltdown as per above message
Regards Floberg’s latest video, is there anything more irritating than people claim that they were in “X:XX shape” for a race that they actually ran several minutes slower than their claimed “shape”?
racing is a skill, pacing is a skill, nutrition is a skill… it’s a whole package. If you ran a race in 2:34, then you were in 2:34 shape. That’s it, Eric, that’s the whole story. Everyone feels like they left some time out there on the course, that’s part of it. Doesn’t change the facts.
I've been very critical of Floberg but we can acknowledge that some marathon courses and conditions are faster or slower than others. It's one thing to claim to have achieved something you haven't. It's another thing to conduct an objective analysis on your past training and races to try to understand what happened. In this latest video when he talked about his Chicago + Indy "double", I think he was clearly doing the latter and I have no criticism of it.
His whole point was that the conditions in Indianapolis were better for him and yet he ran slower. So he didn't actually succeed in running two marathons only three weeks apart.
What really made me roll my eyes is the way he thinks of marathon training as just the ~3 months of training before the race. He emphasized he's going to do everything he possibly can to prepare for Chicago but then also emphasized that he's just messing around right now, not attempting to do optimal training. The serious training starts in July. And he thinks the secret ingredient will be bumping the mileage. If he had spent all of 2025 steadily building fitness on no more than 75-80 mpw, he'd be on track to crush sub 2:30 in Chicago.
If he didn't think of training as such an emotional activity that requires a ton of willpower and discipline, he wouldn't feel any need to take a break.
I don't believe him that he's really happy about his running right now. He's trying to make peace with the fact that he plateaued and that currently he's actually in worse shape than the plateau. So he's gotta get back to where he was and then train effectively for long enough to break the plateau. He's trying to be optimistic about it but the odds are against him for Chicago.
If he does actually read this thread, I think we've cursed him. He's too proud to take the actual good training advice some of us have offered - doesn't want us to have the satisfaction, wants to do it his own way. Though didn't I recommend to him that he makes videos for a while about the joy of running, etc, rather than some overly serious build? Which is exactly what this video was. But the training is still supposed to be effective... Looking at his Strava, I guess he's tapering for Grandma's even though he's not running it all-out? If he'd just hit high mileage, even if it's all easy pace, and then cautiously add a few moderate workouts between all these races he's running, he'd have been so prepared for his Chicago training block. Oh well.
Yeah it seems obvious that what he needed was consistent volume over the summer. Now he will build to 100 solely during his Chicago block. He seemed to struggle hitting his workouts last block, that will probably happen again if he is pushing his mileage.
Just watched the latest Floberg video and I’m sure what I say might prove unpopular with some here (cue downvotes) but…
His latest video was absolutely magnificent and dare I say it proved quite a lot of his naysayers wrong.
you can book this comment - Eric is just going to get better and better at the marathon. No doubt in my mind he will one day be nearly as quick as Nick Bester who is an amazing sub elite runner (pushing elite)
Will be interesting to see if RanToJapan can slap out a sub 2:10 in the next few years as that really will be special!
Heppy belated birthday to the true OG, the one and only Seth James Demoor.
Happy birthday to this tiny man who is a true giant in the world of online run grifting
he created the template: coffee making montages, video shots from the INSIDE of the fridge (HOLY MOLY ITS LIKE I LIVE NEXT TO HIS ASPARAGUS - a true insider’s view), cringe-inducing inclusion of largely irrelevant family members, bizarre and unnecessary positivity, accepting any and all financial opportunities and promotions without disclosing them.
and here’s to total dependence of the kids receiving Andys ice cream based on daddy’s success, and most importantly - withholding said ice cream if daddy doesn’t win. It’s all about daddy!!!
Elite is quite a stretch. Let's say elite is top 200 in the world; currently that stands at 2:09. Bester is at 2:27 which puts him at around 1700 in the world.
Regards Floberg’s latest video, is there anything more irritating than people claim that they were in “X:XX shape” for a race that they actually ran several minutes slower than their claimed “shape”?
racing is a skill, pacing is a skill, nutrition is a skill… it’s a whole package. If you ran a race in 2:34, then you were in 2:34 shape. That’s it, Eric, that’s the whole story. Everyone feels like they left some time out there on the course, that’s part of it. Doesn’t change the facts.
I've been very critical of Floberg but we can acknowledge that some marathon courses and conditions are faster or slower than others. It's one thing to claim to have achieved something you haven't. It's another thing to conduct an objective analysis on your past training and races to try to understand what happened. In this latest video when he talked about his Chicago + Indy "double", I think he was clearly doing the latter and I have no criticism of it.
His whole point was that the conditions in Indianapolis were better for him and yet he ran slower. So he didn't actually succeed in running two marathons only three weeks apart.
What really made me roll my eyes is the way he thinks of marathon training as just the ~3 months of training before the race. He emphasized he's going to do everything he possibly can to prepare for Chicago but then also emphasized that he's just messing around right now, not attempting to do optimal training. The serious training starts in July. And he thinks the secret ingredient will be bumping the mileage. If he had spent all of 2025 steadily building fitness on no more than 75-80 mpw, he'd be on track to crush sub 2:30 in Chicago.
If he didn't think of training as such an emotional activity that requires a ton of willpower and discipline, he wouldn't feel any need to take a break.
I don't believe him that he's really happy about his running right now. He's trying to make peace with the fact that he plateaued and that currently he's actually in worse shape than the plateau. So he's gotta get back to where he was and then train effectively for long enough to break the plateau. He's trying to be optimistic about it but the odds are against him for Chicago.
If he does actually read this thread, I think we've cursed him. He's too proud to take the actual good training advice some of us have offered - doesn't want us to have the satisfaction, wants to do it his own way. Though didn't I recommend to him that he makes videos for a while about the joy of running, etc, rather than some overly serious build? Which is exactly what this video was. But the training is still supposed to be effective... Looking at his Strava, I guess he's tapering for Grandma's even though he's not running it all-out? If he'd just hit high mileage, even if it's all easy pace, and then cautiously add a few moderate workouts between all these races he's running, he'd have been so prepared for his Chicago training block. Oh well.
I think you miss the point. I know he’s not claiming a PR, but it’s part of the mental issue he has the affects his whole training scheme. I think he sincerely believes he was in 2:31 shape, and that everyone who achieves sub 2:30 or whatever is having the greatest day ever. The reality is, everyone on the marathon course is fighting some degree of adversity that holds them back from a perfect day. Temps, wind, injury, stress, recent parenthood and bad sleep, whatever it is, you name it - but that’s part of the game. You need buffer to achieve your PR because things will never be perfect. No doubt there are two or three male marathoners out there right now in sub 2:00 shape on the perfect day/course, but you don’t have it until you do it.
That leads him to setting unrealistic goals before he’s actually achieved the prior stepping stone - his friends running sub 2:30 aren’t just a couple minutes faster than him, they’re actually 5 mins faster than him, because they also have some buffer, etc.
And so then he takes this belief that he’s in shape, he just needs perfect course conditions, and it drives him to do something like McKirdy, which is predicated on giving you the optimal experience with zero friction, and obsesses (I mean, obSESSES) over the meaningless crap that he thinks is going to tip him from 2:34 into 2:29:XX instead of focusing on getting fast enough that having personalized bottles and a flat loop course doesn’t matter.
Elite is quite a stretch. Let's say elite is top 200 in the world; currently that stands at 2:09. Bester is at 2:27 which puts him at around 1700 in the world.
He has a lot of work to do.
Wow. 1700th in the world is actually even higher than I thought! That’s crazy good considering running is so popular and there are probably hundreds of millions who do it! Especially as he’s not even pro
Nick you absolute legend! 1700th in the world despite only picking running up later in life having worked in the corporate world before. All whilst juggling a family and kids too
Damn that’s one impressive achievement. And just think - he’s still improving! Love to see how he does in the new Puma shoes too
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