You two clearly need schooling on the rules. I will spell it out for you so you wouldn’t tax yourselves. It is all the more rewarding when someone is so amazingly arrogant and then completely wrong.
llort_vbo wrote:
double fail wrote:You can't shove a receiver downfield. That's PI, period.
Um no, that could be illegal contact unless the ball is already in the air. Are you sure that you know the rules? I'm pretty sure there's some youtube videos for little kids and women to bring you up to speed on nfl rules.
The ball WAS already in the air... Let's take a look at the rule:
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterferenceThere shall be no interference with a forward pass thrown from behind the line. The restriction for the passing team starts with the snap. The restriction on the defensive team starts when the ball leaves the passer’s hand. Both restrictions end when the ball is touched by anyone.
The penalty for defensive pass interference is an automatic first down at the spot of the foul. If interference is in the end zone, it is first down for the offense on the defense’s 1-yard line. If previous spot was inside the defense’s 1-yard line, penalty is half the distance to the goal line.
The penalty for offensive pass interference is 10 yards from the previous spot.
It is pass interference by either team when any player movement beyond the line of scrimmage significantly hinders the progress of an eligible player of such player’s opportunity to catch the ball. Offensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is snapped until the ball is touched. Defensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is thrown until the ball is touched.
Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:
(a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.
Pushing a receiver while not playing the ball constitutes example (a). So it seems it does matter if you are playing the ball... Dial it Up (jackass). How about holding you ask?
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhandsException: An eligible receiver is considered to be an obstructing opponent ONLY to a point five yards beyond the line of scrimmage unless the player who receives the snap clearly demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball. Within this five-yard zone, a defensive player may chuck an eligible player in front of him. A defensive player is allowed to maintain continuous and unbroken contact within the five-yard zone until a point when the receiver is even with the defender. The defensive player cannot use his hands or arms to push from behind, hang onto, or encircle an eligible receiver in a manner that restricts movement as the play develops. Beyond this five-yard limitation, a defender may use his hands or arms ONLY to defend or protect himself against impending contact caused by a receiver. In such reaction, the defender may not contact a receiver who attempts to take a path to evade him.
Pay particular attention to the part where you can't HANG ONTO another player to restrict movement as the play develops. That's holding. Morons...
Now here is the video showing BOTH pass interference AND defensive holding:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/laces-out/detroit-lions-dallas-cowboys-referees-pass-interference-negated-controversy-010415So this is where both of you quietly exit stage left. Goodbye.