AREALPERSSON wrote:
Kettle meet Pot. wrote:Says the man who's been doing more than his fair share of slanging, but now he's getting the rough end of the pineapple and getting beaten down he wants it to stop.
Could you clarify where you have found me slanging? And I am posting using my original handle, well the one I managed to regiyster, not multiple ones.
You cunning old dog Andy you know you said nasty hurtful things about LR forum users and you're still doing it to us:-( wah.
gk wrote:
It took me 4 days to get caught back up on this. That's why I get for leaving town to run an actual race over the weekend.
The best post I've read was from page 196 about NOT giving up on finding more data. It's somewhere out there.
We only have one video from a car wash. The guy has run (or daned) passed tons of car washes, gas stations, fast food restaurants, banks, and dirty book stores. I looked at his route through northern Arizona/New Mexico/Colorado. In Flagstaff, where I live, he went right down our only road, passed every business on rt 66. Chevron at the corner of Milton, Barnes & Noble, Papa John's, Flagstaff Chamber of Commerce, the AMTRAK station...etc. Then he venured off onto the Rez. Cameron has gas stations, so does Tuba City, Kayenta, Farmington has a ton of crap, so does Alamosa. It might be too late to obtain security camera footage, but you could get lucky and score some extremely damning evidence.
I know that Facebook strips metadata, but those same pictures might be somewhere else still with time stamps intact. Again, could get lucky.
To me, the best evidence that he's taking rides is the fact that he deleted his old data (but someone was smart enough to copy it first). danus did the same thing when he got called out on that 202 AOR. He was tweeting updates (time stamped) of where he was and how far he had 'ran'. Then he deletes the tweets. If they were legit, then you would NEVER delete them as they'd provide some factual evidence of your extraordinary claim. dumbo forgot that the tweets were still on his Strands profile, and RY let us copy the kml file before he deleted it. They always make mistakes.
Also, I'm very familiar with a lot of his route around here. No way in hell he dropped a 35 min 10k around Williams. There's a significant uphill before town. There's even a climbing lane for semis on I-40. Then you still climb up to the Arizona Divide outside of Parks before dropping a little to Bellemont and a little more drop into Flagstaff.
The route after Flagstaff is pretty stupid. I would've just stayed on the interstate through Albuquerque. Cutting through the Rez is idiotic. US 89 isn't bad, but US 160 is stupid dangerous to run on. It's 2 lanes, 65mpm speed limit (which nobody obeys), lots of drunk drivers, almost no passing lanes, narrow shoulder, no street lights...etc. I would totally take a ride in an RV through this section...after a quick trip to the Grand Canyon. Who the hell does that? If you wanna see the canyon then take US 64 when you hit Williams. Don't double back when you hit Cameron.
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Please, please, visit these businesses and ask if you can watch their footage for a couple of minutes.
The smoking gun is there!
Can't we pledge to give a certain amount of $ if someone manages to get new footage?
Flouncing Twunt wrote:
bobblehead juice wrote:HAHA! You're obviously new here. That doesn't make you less retarded though.
Read the headline of this thread ... typical of here ... load of crud mate, like most of the keyboard warriors on here too!
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7388213
I thought the British were the masters of irony. Boy, was I wrong!
Flouncing Twunt wrote:
bobblehead juice wrote:HAHA! You're obviously new here. That doesn't make you less retarded though.
Read the headline of this thread ... typical of here ... load of crud mate, like most of the keyboard warriors on here too!
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7388213
shit I've been on LR for years and the overwhelming vibe I've always picked up is the vast majority hate AlSal and Ruppy and post so, even rojo say Al doesn't like him.
RYinvestigator wrote:
As a registered psychologist who works with victims of child abuse, it common for survivors of abuse to develop strong adverse reactions when placed in situations that are similar to what occurred in the abuse. For example, a child regularly locked in a closet will develop a fear of closed in spaces. However, there are many examples that are less obvious and more subtle; a certain smell can trigger a panic response in some survivors of abuse and they may not even remember at first why that smell is eliciting that response.
Therefore, what is weird/rare about that photo to me - is that a person who had suffered childhood trauma by specifically being zipped into a suitcase (a memory strong enough to mention and write about as the specific abuse they suffered) would find it funny and enjoyable to recreate that experience. It is of course possible the situation left no lasting effect on him, but then it is strange that he specifically talks about it.
Thanks for this expert insight.[/quote]
I thought the same thing but I am not a psychologist.
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
even rojo say Al doesn't like him.
Can't blame Al for that :)
IF only there was some irony somewhere else on the 240 pages of this post ... instead of hours and hours of negativity
Phil Knight wrote:
I'm disappointed in you Indy. No live updates from anyone downtown over your lunch break?!
I'm actually impressed that he is at over 60 miles since last night. I'd like to know what his pace has been though. He is clearly putting in longer days now...
Of course not - that would involve these depressed LRC millennials mustering up the strength to get out of the house.
I really don't have time to play detective. I'll be up in Leadville this weekend getting further behind on this thread. We could really use another SOKLR to summarize all the maps, photos, google docs, and stuff into a blog. Then reading this thread would become more manageable.
http://kiplitton.blogspot.de/gk wrote:
I really don't have time to play detective. I'll be up in Leadville this weekend getting further behind on this thread. We could really use another SOKLR to summarize all the maps, photos, google docs, and stuff into a blog. Then reading this thread would become more manageable.
Best blog ever!
Hey Rob,
I think it's time you called your old buddy Saul here. You're in a situation and I know a good guy that can help you out. We're gonna get you through this one nice and clean buddy.
Normally I'd charge a lot for this kinda thing but since it's for you and the kids, this one's on the house. Ah what the heck, you can get me one of those sausage roll things the next time we meet.
Your buddy,
Saul
p.s. try and lose that guy Laz, do whatever it takes; act crazy or somethin but he needs to go asap.
team1.kml beats horses wrote:
The day the RV broke down wrote:Hi, not sure if anyone saw it earlier today, but I posted the photoshop file for my graphic. If anyone would like to edit it to be more in line with current thinking, feel free - I'm a bit too busy at the moment.
http://www.filedropper.com/rvdayThanks. I tried and failed at improving it in gimp because I'm lousy at gimp. One of the main things I wanted to change is the base map (where did it come from?), which has points A and B... It would be great if Point A were at the end of the TomTom segment ending at 8:18 on the north-bearing stretch of Hwy 95. It's good to know where the RV was stuck, but I think Point A on Hwy 95 (8:19am) and Point B at the Riverside Casino (pool photo, 12:52). Then the focus becomes linking points A and B:
Elapsed time: 4:34
Distance claimed via FB Message: "about 36 miles"
Distance by Hwy*: 34.4 miles
Distance shown on truncated TomTom segment: 21.9 miles
Elapsed time shown on truncated TomTom segment: 3:42:16
Distance _NOT_ covered by TomTom segment: 12.5 miles
Elapsed time _NOT_ covered by TomTom segment: 1:02
Pace required to cover 12.5 miles in 1:02: 4:57 min/mile
Recognizing that 12:52 is the pool photo and that they played roulette beforehand ("The 3 of us went to the Casino and put $20 each on the roulette table before having a swim in the pool and taking a shower" from
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/2016/05/21/day-3-5-a-pick-up-for-a-hiccup/), 12:52 is a conservative time. His arrival was probably closer to 12:30, taking 10-20 minutes off the elapsed time _NOT_ covered by the truncated TomTom segment. We are starting to get down into the ridiculous at this point, with respect to paces, and 4:57 pace is already very unbelievable.
* based on
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35.1677885,-114.5725129/34.9817112,-114.8328095/@34.9633818,-114.9463587,10.68z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
TomTom
The base map is the Google map I made using the RV tracker kml file. The link is on the Google sheet. The points are from routes that I added into the map. If you wanted to replace the base map later it should be relatively straightforward.
Even Laz thinks the record Tom want's to obtain is bollocks:
"run without sleep" is not a measurable performance parameter.
just silliness.
there is a reason no such category exists.
laz
Posted to the ultralist 10 minutes ago... Though this wasn't regarding Tom, these types of records are dumb.
Mileage from midnight ET to 6pm ET on 6/16: 35.7 (1.97mph)
35.7 miles!
Has anything happened since page 218?
Is there any reason to read the intervening pages.
thanks
Are they singing“Too good to be true�
https://www.facebook.com/kevin.orourke.5249
That Steve dude is so ashamed.
And that old woman (left) is quite ugly.
Coach Kev’s Run Camp: how do I run a 5K in 30 minutes.
Here's the deal. In America we are ok with a little cheating. But not a lot. So the fact he went legit and that people are tracking him like a "witch hunt" make him the victim.
Fact: he's not able to run the paces claimed in the beginning.
Here's the weird part of it for me... Outside of his blindly devoted disciples: if he would have run across America visiting the awesome geological sites it would be so much better to follow and marketable. Then who cares if you hop in for 20 miles here or there?
For instance... If he started at Big Sur, went through Yosemitee, Moab, up to Yellowstone, ended up going through Gettysberg. He'll maybe stop and mom and pop Resturants along the way. Make a documentary of it. Not for a record but because it's a cool thing to do.
Instead the run the boring, dangerous interstate.
Frenkly, I am getting bored wrote:
Has anything happened since page 218?
Is there any reason to read the intervening pages.
thanks
The main points to take away is that Rob collapsed on his face yesterday on the side of the road for who knows how long and feel asleep with blood running down his face. Horrible mileage.
Today, the Geezers are aiding the enemy by cutting his shoes for him to relieve some pressure and it was revealed Rob is wearing COTTON socks on a trans con run. The Geezers may have done other stuff we don't know about but they may actually get some decent mileage in today. Rob looks beat up, though.
I checked into the ADOT cameras on I-17 and ADOT claims they are not archived. Even then, he walked through Flagstaff before dropping big mileage going through the res. These guys would have been clueless about how dangerous those roads are, though, and might have been happy to ditch the interstate.
Also, we've determined that RY was not responsible for the tracker data disappearing -- innocent move by the open tracker folks (independent from RY) to keep the page from loading too slowly. Others have an even richer set of timestamp data than the 12-minute check-ins but it hasn't been published yet. It's also the tracker data so it has the same limitations (i.e., unclear if it was on the person or in the RV).
As far as Williams and Flagstaff, he had a 35:58 10K just past Williams but ended up walking through Flagstaff, so any cameras will likely have him walking.
This great analysis of his awesome mountain running abilities as per the NM to Colorado sections is pretty compelling as well:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208523685502952&set=p.10208523685502952&type=3&theater
This is another person, not who is posting here. Don't discuss the social media of this person.
Oh, so we don't actually know who the Tom Crockford on here posting is?