Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Yet... wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Oh...I have an answer. I have THE answer...investigation(s) are still ongoing. Ridiculous to say I have been wrong all that time when we don't know the result of the investigations. No bigger response from me on that is warranted.

For your edification:

Here's a list of KNOWN investigations surrounding Trump, some more tangential than others (shout out to Axios):

Investigations by special counsel Robert Mueller:

• Russian government’s election attack (the Internet Research Agency and GRU indictments)

• WikiLeaks

• Middle Eastern influence: Potentially the biggest unseen aspect of Mueller’s investigation is his year-long pursuit of Middle Eastern influence targeting the Trump campaign.

• Paul Manafort’s activity

• Trump Tower Moscow project

• Other campaign and transition contacts with Russia

• Obstruction of justice

Investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York:

• Campaign conspiracy and Trump Organization finances

• Inauguration funding

• Trump super PAC funding

• Foreign lobbying

Investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia:

• Maria Butina and the NRA

Investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia:

• Elena Alekseevna Khusyaynova, the alleged chief accountant of the Internet Research Agency who was indicted separately earlier this fall, charged with activity that went above and beyond the 2016 campaign. Why she was prosecuted separately remains a mystery.

• Turkish influence: Michael Flynn’s plea agreement includes some details of the case, and he is cooperating with investigators.

Investigations by New York City, New York State and other state attorneys general:

• Tax case: In the wake of an N.Y. Times investigation that found Trump had benefited from more than $400 million in tax schemes, city officials said they were investigating Trump’s tax payments, as did the New York State Tax Department.

• The Trump Foundation

• Emoluments lawsuit: The attorneys general for Maryland and D.C. sent out subpoenas earlier this month for Trump Organization and hotel financial records relating to their lawsuit that the president is in breach of the "Emoluments Clause" of the Constitution, which appears to prohibit the president from accepting payments from foreign powers while in office.

And there's a mystery investigation from an unknown office:

• Redacted Case #2: A second, redacted Flynn investigation could be one of the other investigations mentioned here. It could also represent another as-yet-unknown unfolding criminal case or could be a counterintelligence investigation that will never become public.

BUT, nothing to see here. It's not like big investigations like this typically go after the small fish first and then finally land the big fish...oh wait.

Mueller is coming. The SDNY is coming. Many others are coming.

The clown is done.

And yet...nothingburger so far.

Silliest of Willies wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Among those:

George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser

Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair

Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide

Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser

Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney and fixer

Roger Stone, Trump's longtime friend and adviser

Cooperation from most of those. Cooperation likely coming from Stone also as he is facing up to 20 years in prison. Cooperation AND immunity also from David Pecker and Allen Weisselberg. Those two are HUGE and a BIG problem for Trump.

There really are only three big fish left...Kushner, Don Jr. and Trump himself. Ivanka is a semi-big fish who may or may not feel the sting of justice.

Yeah, I know, you say the actions of those people had nothing to do with Trump. George was a coffee boy, Manafort was hardly with the campaign, Cohen did next to nothing for Trump, and all that other BS.

Mueller and just about everybody else (except probably not Melania) is coming.

The clown is done.

Oh, you want facts? Ok, here you go. These facts are actually relevant to the objective of the investigation, though.

Fact 1- Zero charges of collusion for any of the people on your list.

Fact 2- George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser-

It's clear with the evidence we now know that George was set up by DNC/HRC-paid operatives. Sure, he was interested in snooping around for dirt on Hillary as well, but the specific individual that approached him did so with a plan. Not illegal. Not charged with "collusion" in any way. Served a- get this- 14 day sentence, for "lying. Actually considered backing out of plea deal very late.

Fact 3- Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair-

Long-time, big-time DC lobbyist with connections all over the world. Busted on a lot of tax fraud stuff that occurred well before Trump decided to run for President. Multiple stories regarding Manafort and Russia have been debunked (remember when you bought the story about him meeting with Assange at the embassy multiple times?- Ha).

Fact 4- Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide-

Manafort-like stuff. In fact, was trying to screw Manafort over in the process. No collusion.

Fact 5- Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser-

Indicted for dealing with Russian officials prior to Trump taking office. His past dealings with Turkey were supposedly questionable. None of this was apparently serious enough for Mueller, as he recommended zero prison time. Biggest offense is likely being strongly anti-Obama. No collusion.

Fact 6- Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney and fixer-

Like Manafort, busted for tax and weird taxi fraud things in the past, mostly prior to Trump running for POTUS. Claims Trump directed a hush payment to a whoore or two. Not illegal, of course. The only possible item of concern is if it was used with campaign frunds, which of course Trump will say "I never told him to use campaign funds." Also, like Manafort, has had multiple stories about his relations with Russia debunked (remember he was- I mean wasn't- in Prague?). Claims he saw no collision with Russia from anyone in the Trump campaign.

Fact 7- Roger Stone, Trump's longtime friend and adviser-

With Manafort, has a long history around DC. Known as a dirty trickster. Was just indicted for lying and impeding during the investigation. The very detailed explanation of events in the indictments do not describe any collusion, but rather a very interested party in some very juicy info. So yet again, we have no collusion. Both he and Jerome Corsi are in fact pushing back against their charges.

These are the facts.

Mueller's boss says he was briefed on the findings and it should be wrapping up shortly. I know you're holding out hope, as you're desperate at this point. But you may want to start reading the writing on the wall.

Mueller NOPE (soon).

Clownpole DOPE (always).

You're kidding, right? wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) Cheating has occurred with regard to the 2016 election. I called that out as something that would nix my ZERO chance prediction...that and if aliens came down here and made us vote for him. At least ONE other poster has recalled that I did indeed make those caveats.

2) I didn't say they were the stupidest people on the Earth. When you stick to the facts you make a better point.

3) No, I actually did not smirk to myself about what you suggest or about anything actually.

4) What defines stupidity for you? It IS a word with a meaning after all. Stupidity: behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. How is it good sense in any way to support a man who lies constantly? How can you believe what he says and therefore how can you know what it is you are supporting?

5) You didn't answer my other questions posed to you, so I will put them here again to give you the proper channel to defend your position: How many more criminals does he have to surround himself with? How many more lies does he have to tell? How many more racist things does he have to say? How many more dictators does he have to cozy up to? How many more freedoms does he have to attack? How many more illegals does he have to hire? How many more p*ssies does he have to grab? What does he need to do in order to show that anyone who follows him is flat stupid?

As we know from Forrest Gump, "stupid is as stupid does". Stupid is supporting Trump TODAY. The evidence is clear.

1) That was me who posted that I remembered. I was just joking. I don't remember that at all. Sorry.

Flagpole wrote:

Silliest of Willies wrote:

Oh, you want facts? Ok, here you go. These facts are actually relevant to the objective of the investigation, though.

Fact 1- Zero charges of collusion for any of the people on your list.

Fact 2- George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser-

It's clear with the evidence we now know that George was set up by DNC/HRC-paid operatives. Sure, he was interested in snooping around for dirt on Hillary as well, but the specific individual that approached him did so with a plan. Not illegal. Not charged with "collusion" in any way. Served a- get this- 14 day sentence, for "lying. Actually considered backing out of plea deal very late.

Fact 3- Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair-

Long-time, big-time DC lobbyist with connections all over the world. Busted on a lot of tax fraud stuff that occurred well before Trump decided to run for President. Multiple stories regarding Manafort and Russia have been debunked (remember when you bought the story about him meeting with Assange at the embassy multiple times?- Ha).

Fact 4- Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide-

Manafort-like stuff. In fact, was trying to screw Manafort over in the process. No collusion.

Fact 5- Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser-

Indicted for dealing with Russian officials prior to Trump taking office. His past dealings with Turkey were supposedly questionable. None of this was apparently serious enough for Mueller, as he recommended zero prison time. Biggest offense is likely being strongly anti-Obama. No collusion.

Fact 6- Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney and fixer-

Like Manafort, busted for tax and weird taxi fraud things in the past, mostly prior to Trump running for POTUS. Claims Trump directed a hush payment to a whoore or two. Not illegal, of course. The only possible item of concern is if it was used with campaign frunds, which of course Trump will say "I never told him to use campaign funds." Also, like Manafort, has had multiple stories about his relations with Russia debunked (remember he was- I mean wasn't- in Prague?). Claims he saw no collision with Russia from anyone in the Trump campaign.

Fact 7- Roger Stone, Trump's longtime friend and adviser-

With Manafort, has a long history around DC. Known as a dirty trickster. Was just indicted for lying and impeding during the investigation. The very detailed explanation of events in the indictments do not describe any collusion, but rather a very interested party in some very juicy info. So yet again, we have no collusion. Both he and Jerome Corsi are in fact pushing back against their charges.

These are the facts.

Mueller's boss says he was briefed on the findings and it should be wrapping up shortly. I know you're holding out hope, as you're desperate at this point. But you may want to start reading the writing on the wall.

Mueller NOPE (soon).

Clownpole DOPE (always).

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Flagpole wrote:

Racket wrote:

I'm truly amazed at how you can have such conviction despite that very same determination ultimately blinding you in 2016 to any possibility other than a Hillary Clinton win, yet here we are today and you're just so sure these people supporting Trump are just blatant racists or the stupidest people on earth, with no other possible explanation, no in between. If you really fail to see any alternative among your broken dichotomy then you go ahead and count yourself among the intellectually inferior.

The only reason I bother even responding to this (of which you will most certainly dismiss with a simple "whatever bother, I'm right and you're wrong, and YOU'RE the one who is intellectually inferior" (admit it, you already ran that line through your head and smirked about how awesome you are)) is because I really struggle to see how the Democrats are going to form a cohesive platform for 2020 that is more than just "not Trump."

1) Cheating has occurred with regard to the 2016 election. I called that out as something that would nix my ZERO chance prediction...that and if aliens came down here and made us vote for him. At least ONE other poster has recalled that I did indeed make those caveats.

2) I didn't say they were the stupidest people on the Earth. When you stick to the facts you make a better point.

3) No, I actually did not smirk to myself about what you suggest or about anything actually.

4) What defines stupidity for you? It IS a word with a meaning after all. Stupidity: behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. How is it good sense in any way to support a man who lies constantly? How can you believe what he says and therefore how can you know what it is you are supporting?

5) You didn't answer my other questions posed to you, so I will put them here again to give you the proper channel to defend your position: How many more criminals does he have to surround himself with? How many more lies does he have to tell? How many more racist things does he have to say? How many more dictators does he have to cozy up to? How many more freedoms does he have to attack? How many more illegals does he have to hire? How many more p*ssies does he have to grab? What does he need to do in order to show that anyone who follows him is flat stupid?

As we know from Forrest Gump, "stupid is as stupid does". Stupid is supporting Trump TODAY. The evidence is clear.