How about a new party other than the current group of democrats?
That would seem to be a choice to be made by the people who vote for politicians and those who fund their campaigns.
As it is, it would take someone like Trump having to carry through on his threat to leave the GOP had he not won the nomination in 2024 in order to really break up the ebb and flow between the GOP and the Democrats.
Enough of our electorate is just going think about how they feel compared to four years earlier and whenever they don’t feel better off, they’ll throw the bums out.
Fake news abc should pay the consequences for being so fake!
“I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein," Trump said. "I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert." "It’s a Democrat hoax," Trump said, later adding: "I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and so wrong. And we have a great commissioner, a chairman, who should take a look at that."
Correct. They are hoping that Trump will allow them to become out-in-the-open pedophiles.
In other news, a MAGA ICE agent was arrested for trying to solicit a 17 year old girl for paid sex.
I don't like the fact that they may be scrubbing the files clean of any Republicans. I want ALL involved with children and involved with Epstein to go down. Party affiliation be damned.
Oh, you expect me to believe this guy now? At least your honest about the type of creeps you honor.
That’s some impressive mental gymnastics to go from me quoting Epstein’s brother on hearsay, all the way to me “honoring” him.
Haha. You are, though. Do you know the definition of honor? : 1. High respect; great esteem. 2. Adherence to what is right or to a conventional standard of conduct.
You certainly must respect this guy's opinion or you wouldn't reference him as a credible source of true testimony. Correct? It would be real silly if you were trying to make an argument for someone who you didn't esteem, respect or believe was adhering to what is right in some way.
So yeah, you've honored him here. Learn the dictionary, gymnastics guy.
Ultimately, unless you were at the island witnessing, or saw video evidence of, Trump literally molesting a child, it's all political propaganda. Same goes for everyone else despite the amount of evidence, not redacted and enigmatic, disparate email leaks.
What we do have evidence of is Biden and the showering with his daughter. That's pretty weird. But, I don't really make it a habit of discussing pedophilia on a regular basis like the liberals who are obsessed by the topic do.
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Fake news abc should pay the consequences for being so fake!
“I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein," Trump said. "I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert." "It’s a Democrat hoax," Trump said, later adding: "I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and so wrong. And we have a great commissioner, a chairman, who should take a look at that."
A completely innocent Trump should then be eager to have every shred of paperwork related to Epstein out in the open.
I think very easy to see that he was clearly aware of what Epstein was doing and still chose to socialize with him. That would normally end a politician’s career in a heartbeat, but at least Trump has people like you stick with him no matter what!
I am resigned to the fact that all politicians - Repubs and Dems - lie quite often. The nature of the beast.
I have seen it and more or less expect it. I do not accept it and think it’s everyone’s job to claw back out from such expectations.
A realistic understanding that things will never be perfect (or even nearly so) does not have to involve a resignation about such things. There are always levels of better and worse, and I consider it everybody’s duty to strive for the “better” part and to demand it of others.
Because the President has a demonstrated history of lying more and more brazenly than any other politician, every political victory he has achieved has done more to embolden the worst behavior of every other politician. And you can clearly see that in the way that the Democratic Party is worse today than it was in 2015 and Republican Party is worse today than it was in 2015. That, as much as anything else, is the president’s legacy.
Very well said! Thank you.
The "all politicians lie" trope, while almost certainly true, is typically employed in a deliberate attempt to mislead--which is one definition of a lie. It's used to suggest that all presidents, and politicians in general, lie as much as Donald Trump does. But he made more than thirty thousand documented false or misleading statements in his first term: an average of more than twenty a day. He is vastly more mendacious than any other POTUS of my lifetime.
I don't like the fact that they may be scrubbing the files clean of any Republicans. I want ALL involved with children and involved with Epstein to go down. Party affiliation be damned.
amusing that this poster holds being on Epstein's plane against Clinton, but apparently not against Trump. (trump flew on epstein's plane 7-9 times)
Anyway, if you add up all the names in the documents so far released, trump is mentioned MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
There are billions of people in the world. TRUMP WAS MENTIONED MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. Deal with it.
Trump loved rubbing shoulders with the rich and powerful and the reverse is also true. Of course his name will appear - but he was NOT implicated
Well, Epstein saying to G. Maxwell that "[Trump] knew about the girls" is certainly being "implicated." But implicated as to what?
It seems like everyone is moving the implication goalposts around quite a bit. The goalposts seem to range from evidence showing beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump (or anyone else) committed a felony, to evidence suggesting Trump (or anyone else) contemporaneously knew of Epstein's crimes, all the way down to Trump's name (or anyone else's) being "in the file." That's a wide range of behaviors and judgments, and presents great opportunity for strawman, hypocrisy, whaddaboudyou, and disingenuous commentary. We've seen plenty of that already.
If we ever do see all these Epstein files (which is unlikely), with respect to Trump, my guess is that there is a good amount of evidence to show that Trump was aware of the crimes Epstein was committing (probably because Epstein told him) and Trump didn't care enough to do anything about it -- we may already have that with Trump being "the dog that hasn't barked" and that "he was aware of the girls." And there will also be quite a bit of embarrassing stuff that Trump doesn't want people to see -- like topless women sitting on his lap, lecherous comments he made, etc.
Fake news abc should pay the consequences for being so fake!
“I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein," Trump said. "I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert." "It’s a Democrat hoax," Trump said, later adding: "I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and so wrong. And we have a great commissioner, a chairman, who should take a look at that."
A completely innocent Trump should then be eager to have every shred of paperwork related to Epstein out in the open.
I think very easy to see that he was clearly aware of what Epstein was doing and still chose to socialize with him. That would normally end a politician’s career in a heartbeat, but at least Trump has people like you stick with him no matter what!
Trump socialized with Epstein in the 1990s and early 2000s, but he severed ties around 2004-2007 after learning of Epstein's predatory behavior—banning him from Mar-a-Lago and ceasing contact well before Epstein's 2008 guilty plea to soliciting prostitution from a minor (the first public conviction tied to his pedophilia). There's no documented proof of continued socializing after that point.
After 2007, zero photos, flight logs, or witness accounts show continued socializing. Trump declined Epstein's island invites. Giuffre (recruited at Mar-a-Lago in 2000) accused Prince Andrew but not Trump of abuse, and her family disputes Trump's 2025 retelling as implying prior knowledge. No law enforcement has accused Trump of involvement in Epstein's crimes.
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"Fox News hosts launched into a full-blown meltdown as polling showed President Donald Trump’s approval ratings had cratered to new lows. The reactions unfolded on Fox & Friends as co-host Ainsley Earhardt recited the bleak findings of a Reuters/Ipsos poll released this week. Earhardt noted that Trump “ran on closing the border and… helping the economy.” She then pointed to his deteriorating numbers: Trump’s approval rating fell to 38 percent, the lowest it had been since returning to the White House for a second term in January. The president’s weakening numbers have rung alarm bells for the GOP, with a top White House aide admitting last month that the party faces trouble ahead"
That’s some impressive mental gymnastics to go from me quoting Epstein’s brother on hearsay, all the way to me “honoring” him.
Haha. You are, though. Do you know the definition of honor? : 1. High respect; great esteem. 2. Adherence to what is right or to a conventional standard of conduct.
You certainly must respect this guy's opinion or you wouldn't reference him as a credible source of true testimony. Correct? It would be real silly if you were trying to make an argument for someone who you didn't esteem, respect or believe was adhering to what is right in some way.
So yeah, you've honored him here. Learn the dictionary, gymnastics guy.
Ultimately, unless you were at the island witnessing, or saw video evidence of, Trump literally molesting a child, it's all political propaganda. Same goes for everyone else despite the amount of evidence, not redacted and enigmatic, disparate email leaks.
What we do have evidence of is Biden and the showering with his daughter. That's pretty weird. But, I don't really make it a habit of discussing pedophilia on a regular basis like the liberals who are obsessed by the topic do.
Mark Epstein hasn’t had any run ins with the law, has he? You could attempt to make a case why you find his statement doubtful.
Trump loved rubbing shoulders with the rich and powerful and the reverse is also true. Of course his name will appear - but he was NOT implicated
Well, Epstein saying to G. Maxwell that "[Trump] knew about the girls" is certainly being "implicated." But implicated as to what?
It seems like everyone is moving the implication goalposts around quite a bit. The goalposts seem to range from evidence showing beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump (or anyone else) committed a felony, to evidence suggesting Trump (or anyone else) contemporaneously knew of Epstein's crimes, all the way down to Trump's name (or anyone else's) being "in the file." That's a wide range of behaviors and judgments, and presents great opportunity for strawman, hypocrisy, whaddaboudyou, and disingenuous commentary. We've seen plenty of that already.
If we ever do see all these Epstein files (which is unlikely), with respect to Trump, my guess is that there is a good amount of evidence to show that Trump was aware of the crimes Epstein was committing (probably because Epstein told him) and Trump didn't care enough to do anything about it -- we may already have that with Trump being "the dog that hasn't barked" and that "he was aware of the girls." And there will also be quite a bit of embarrassing stuff that Trump doesn't want people to see -- like topless women sitting on his lap, lecherous comments he made, etc.
It's wild the only evidence you guys have his Epstein & Maxwell's word. Do you see the irony in that?
Any word they do have is unclear and mysterious. You'd jump off a building if it meant Trump loses.
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