I mean FP, you live in a red state. You know that right wing social conservatives literally think that lefty dems are insane. Their mental calculus is basically 'the lefties are insane. Trump is a bad fellow but he's not going to turn boys into girls and force us to obey their insanity.'
it's a trade off.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I know lots of Christian Trump supporters who are like your friend. They help in homeless shelters and soup kitchens, give lots of money to good causes, etc.
I can't say I fully understand why they continue to support Individual-1, but they are not mentally ill and they are fundamentally good people. I think that many of them have been supporting Republicans and watching Fox News for so long that they just can't see him for what he is. Tribalism probably explains a lot of it.
Also, most of these folks I'm talking about are quite old. So declining mental faculties could explain some of it too.
I think mostly they feel a guy like trump, as flawed as he is, is a defender of traditional society. Meaning he won't be pushing for gay rights, transgender bathrooms, transgenders in the army, etc. The Christians are right to think that the Dems in fact will push for those things. And for some reason, that distinction, along with abortion, overrules the profoundly unethical and amoral DJT.
People rank policy in different ways. Apparently to the evangelicals, transgender stuff is much worse than lying, adultery, stealing, etc.
This is what makes them bad people. This is exactly what I was talking about...they have HUGE hangups about what people do to their own genitals and where they put them. RIDICULOUS! What about a transgender person makes them unsuitable for the military? Just another lie Trump told. He said he would be the biggest supporter of the LGBT community they had ever seen. Them seeing Trump as a defender of traditional society is ridiculous. He's on his third marriage to a woman he doesn't' even sleep in the same room with. He cheated on her like crazy, and she says she doesn't care. Now, I don't care what any married couple does, but for them to hold him up as a defender of "traditional society" is crazy.
Better know that men should rule the world, that women belong in the kitchen and than only sexual relationships between a man and a woman are acceptable.
He is amoral. Supporters of him AT THIS POINT are also.
Only a few black players on the National Championship team went to that tacky banquet at WH.
Flagpole wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I know lots of Christian Trump supporters who are like your friend. They help in homeless shelters and soup kitchens, give lots of money to good causes, etc.
I can't say I fully understand why they continue to support Individual-1, but they are not mentally ill and they are fundamentally good people. I think that many of them have been supporting Republicans and watching Fox News for so long that they just can't see him for what he is. Tribalism probably explains a lot of it.
Also, most of these folks I'm talking about are quite old. So declining mental faculties could explain some of it too.
Doesn't make them good people that they do that if they back a person who is a sexist, a racist, a misogynist, a serial liar, an adulterer, and a criminal of epic proportions. He has broken every one of the Ten Commandments except for murder as far as we know. Hypocrites to call themselves Christians and support him.
We are just going to have to disagree on this point. They can NOT be "fundamentally good people" and support someone as sinful as Donald Trump. That makes them fundamentally BAD people. There is NO justification for it at this point. They had justification to VOTE for him...there is none left to continue to support him now. Again, Fox News can not be used as an excuse. They have the ability to go gain some knowledge from many other sources. People NOT seeing him for what he is is not acceptable.
Now, they can BECOME good people again once they see and admit the error of their ways, but they are NOT good people until that epiphany. For someone who supports Donald Trump, ANYTHING they do in the name of Christianity is suspect.
So anybody who doesn't agree with your view of this one man is a bad person. Got it.
Being wrong doesn't make you bad. It just makes you wrong.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/noaa-responds-to-trump%E2%80%99s-climate-change-skepticism-with-a-cartoon/ar-BBSUMA4?li=BBnb7KzDemocrats lose again wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1090074254010404864?s=20
Anyway, Trump's joke was not really that funny the first 2 or 3 times; now that he tweets it every time there's a cold day it's kind of old. Someone should explain to him about going to the well once (or 50 times) too often.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
I think mostly they feel a guy like trump, as flawed as he is, is a defender of traditional society. Meaning he won't be pushing for gay rights, transgender bathrooms, transgenders in the army, etc. The Christians are right to think that the Dems in fact will push for those things. And for some reason, that distinction, along with abortion, overrules the profoundly unethical and amoral DJT.
People rank policy in different ways. Apparently to the evangelicals, transgender stuff is much worse than lying, adultery, stealing, etc.
This is what makes them bad people. This is exactly what I was talking about...they have HUGE hangups about what people do to their own genitals and where they put them. RIDICULOUS! What about a transgender person makes them unsuitable for the military? Just another lie Trump told. He said he would be the biggest supporter of the LGBT community they had ever seen. Them seeing Trump as a defender of traditional society is ridiculous. He's on his third marriage to a woman he doesn't' even sleep in the same room with. He cheated on her like crazy, and she says she doesn't care. Now, I don't care what any married couple does, but for them to hold him up as a defender of "traditional society" is crazy.
Better know that men should rule the world, that women belong in the kitchen and than only sexual relationships between a man and a woman are acceptable.
He is amoral. Supporters of him AT THIS POINT are also.
Is this all you do in the Clownpole household too? B*tch h to wifey about Trump all day long?
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Flagpole wrote:
One not the Other wrote:
This has to be one of the dumbest posts on the internet.
And this is coming from a non-trumper and non-Christian.
You would be incorrect. Fundamentalist Christians support patriarchy and have really big hangups about what adults do with their own genitals and where they put their genitals. Maybe since you are a non-Christian, you haven't been around enough of them to know. I am also a non-Christian these days (though I do believe there is a lot of good in the teachings of Jesus though I don't believe him to be the Son of God and I do not believe in God), but I have been around Christians of all flavors my whole life.
English much?
You Nutjobs are still here engaging in this crap? Do you not have lives?
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
I think mostly they feel a guy like trump, as flawed as he is, is a defender of traditional society. Meaning he won't be pushing for gay rights, transgender bathrooms, transgenders in the army, etc. The Christians are right to think that the Dems in fact will push for those things. And for some reason, that distinction, along with abortion, overrules the profoundly unethical and amoral DJT.
People rank policy in different ways. Apparently to the evangelicals, transgender stuff is much worse than lying, adultery, stealing, etc.
This is what makes them bad people. This is exactly what I was talking about...they have HUGE hangups about what people do to their own genitals and where they put them. RIDICULOUS! What about a transgender person makes them unsuitable for the military? Just another lie Trump told. He said he would be the biggest supporter of the LGBT community they had ever seen. Them seeing Trump as a defender of traditional society is ridiculous. He's on his third marriage to a woman he doesn't' even sleep in the same room with. He cheated on her like crazy, and she says she doesn't care. Now, I don't care what any married couple does, but for them to hold him up as a defender of "traditional society" is crazy.
Better know that men should rule the world, that women belong in the kitchen and than only sexual relationships between a man and a woman are acceptable.
He is amoral. Supporters of him AT THIS POINT are also.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
I think mostly they feel a guy like trump, as flawed as he is, is a defender of traditional society. Meaning he won't be pushing for gay rights, transgender bathrooms, transgenders in the army, etc. The Christians are right to think that the Dems in fact will push for those things. And for some reason, that distinction, along with abortion, overrules the profoundly unethical and amoral DJT.
People rank policy in different ways. Apparently to the evangelicals, transgender stuff is much worse than lying, adultery, stealing, etc.
This is what makes them bad people. This is exactly what I was talking about...they have HUGE hangups about what people do to their own genitals and where they put them. RIDICULOUS! What about a transgender person makes them unsuitable for the military? Just another lie Trump told. He said he would be the biggest supporter of the LGBT community they had ever seen. Them seeing Trump as a defender of traditional society is ridiculous. He's on his third marriage to a woman he doesn't' even sleep in the same room with. He cheated on her like crazy, and she says she doesn't care. Now, I don't care what any married couple does, but for them to hold him up as a defender of "traditional society" is crazy.
Better know that men should rule the world, that women belong in the kitchen and than only sexual relationships between a man and a woman are acceptable.
He is amoral. Supporters of him AT THIS POINT are also.
You, sir, have a VERY distorted view of the world around you.
Hahahahahaha!!!!
Global warming is for democrats (aka gays).
Flagpole wrote:
For someone who supports Donald Trump, ANYTHING they do in the name of Christianity is suspect.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber. SMH
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1090074254010404864?s=20
I think Trump is a POS POTUS, but man, when he trolls, he gets some of you hook, line, and sinker every time. Why do you keep falling for it?
Ken Stark wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
This is what makes them bad people. This is exactly what I was talking about...they have HUGE hangups about what people do to their own genitals and where they put them. RIDICULOUS! What about a transgender person makes them unsuitable for the military? Just another lie Trump told. He said he would be the biggest supporter of the LGBT community they had ever seen. Them seeing Trump as a defender of traditional society is ridiculous. He's on his third marriage to a woman he doesn't' even sleep in the same room with. He cheated on her like crazy, and she says she doesn't care. Now, I don't care what any married couple does, but for them to hold him up as a defender of "traditional society" is crazy.
Better know that men should rule the world, that women belong in the kitchen and than only sexual relationships between a man and a woman are acceptable.
He is amoral. Supporters of him AT THIS POINT are also.
You, sir, have a VERY distorted view of the world around you.
You are the company you keep. If you read some of the posts about the neighborhood he lives in and the people he associates with, you get an idea of where his world views come from.
Flagpole wrote:
Papa Doc Duvalier/Baby Doc Duvalier wrote:
Why are CNN and NBC/MSNBC pushing their Kamala Suzie Doc Duvalier Harris candidate? Suzie Doc Duvalier by some CNN & NBC/MSNBC pundits has been label Obama 2.0.
What are the similarities between Suzie Doc Duvalier and B.H.O.? Ties to Asia. B.H.O. lived there in his youth. Suzie Doc Duvalier has Asian blood. Both have been labeled African-American by U.S. slightly left of center media. Neither refer to themselves as African-American. Both were raised in a way which makes whites comfortable. Even though both have fathers with black heritage, neither were raised by their black fathers. Both are attorneys. Since they're attorneys, US has placed a stamp of approval on them.
Differences:
B.H.O. was a community organizer. He was working with the people and for the people. Suzie Doc Duvalier is campaigning as a progressive lawyer. In Alameda County, CA and also as CA Attorney General, Suzie Doc Duvalier went out of her way to make an example of black men. She backed dirty and lying cops. Even when strong evidence that lying/dirty cops ruined lives of black men, Suzie Doc Duvalier still supported dirty cops. On her father's side, Suzie Doc Duvalier is a descendant of bourgeois so-called black Jamaican slave owners. Yes, Kamala Harris' relatives owned the great, great, great grand parents of some of the black Jamaican sprinters we discuss on letsrun! Kamala Suzie Doc Duvalier Harris is not married to Michelle Robinson Obama. Michelle Robinson Obama was loved and is loved in Chicago, IL. Since B.H.O. is not really from Chicago, he needed Michelle Robinson Obama to give him clout with blacks of Chicago. Since blacks of Chicago love B.H.O., blacks across US were willing to vote for him and support him. Suzie Doc Duvalier has no Michelle Obama as a spouse.
Suzie Doc Duvalier will lose. Will she lose in primaries? Not necessarily. CA primary has moved up in date. Suzie Doc Duvalier has money. Suzie Doc Duvalier will get some black women backing her due to Howard U. and AKA Sorority. Corporate America is backing her. If Suzie Doc Duvalier wins SC and CA, she may be the DNC candidate. In 2020 election, Jared and Don Junior may be in jail, prison or wearing ankle bracelets on house arrest. Trump has been swimming in a cesspool since his old man taught him. If Trump survives Mueller, he won't lose to Suzie Doc Duvalier. Once again (as with Al Gore & H.R.C.), DNC would win popular vote with Suzie Doc Duvalier but would lose Great Lake States to Trump with her as candidate.
1) CNN and MSNBC are not "pushing" Harris. They are reporting the news because she just announced she was running.
2) Inaccurate and ignorant to refer to Obama as a "community organizer". Go do some research about what he did before he was president.
I typed about 250 words. Obviously by your tone do not like the post above. Do not tell me to look up Obama. You make your own points here on letsrun. You do not like my post but you can do no better than to refer to me as inaccurate and ignorant. The gist of the post was about K. Harris. Obama is done. Let us know on letsrun why you do not like what I had to say about Harris.
The undocumented workers that Trump knowlingly hired and then fired for being undocumented are looking to Congress for protection from deportation.
In some cases, Trump’s people helped them create the fake documents.
UB40 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
For someone who supports Donald Trump, ANYTHING they do in the name of Christianity is suspect.
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber. SMH
What if someone saved the lives of 1,000 children in the name of Christianity, but supported Trump. Would that be suspect?
L L wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics/trump-golf-clubs-undocumented-workers-congress/index.htmlThe undocumented workers that Trump knowlingly hired and then fired for being undocumented are looking to Congress for protection from deportation.
In some cases, Trump’s people helped them create the fake documents.
So what?
L L wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics/trump-golf-clubs-undocumented-workers-congress/index.htmlThe undocumented workers that Trump knowlingly (sic) hired and then fired for being undocumented are looking to Congress for protection from deportation.
In some cases, Trump’s people helped them create the fake documents.
No where in the article does it say Trump hired or fired them. Care to lie about anything else?
An it is "knowingly."
johnny99 wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/noaa-responds-to-trump%E2%80%99s-climate-change-skepticism-with-a-cartoon/ar-BBSUMA4?li=BBnb7KzDemocrats lose again wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1090074254010404864?s=20Anyway, Trump's joke was not really that funny the first 2 or 3 times; now that he tweets it every time there's a cold day it's kind of old. Someone should explain to him about going to the well once (or 50 times) too often.
It’s good our leader knows everything about global WAMING