SAlly Vx wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Although Trump has run with thousands of false stories I find the Texas voter fraud one to be especially disgusting. Considering that voter fraud is extremely rare I was skeptical about 58,000 non-citizens voting in Texas and it appears the claim is false. Trump, however, tweets it as a fact and adds that it is only the tip of the iceberg. From his perspective, doesn't he realize it might be too good to be true and have someone fact check it before he sends out a tweet about it? And the premise itself is illogical. If I'm not a citizen, I know that my one vote has no effect on the election so why would I risk deportation? And if tens of thousands of illegal voters are getting mobilized by the Dems, good luck keeping it a secret.
Is Trump too stupid to question anything or does he assume his base won't google it so it doesn't matter anyway.
Here is a Washington Post story that voting fraud in Texas may be very real:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/26/texas-officials-flag-tens-thousands-voters-citizenship-checks/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2209c7813818
Ummm . . .
"Just wondering if you bothered to educate yourself on this. The methodology used to determine the 95,000 "non-citizens" registered and 58,000 "non-citizen" voters is a bit suspect.
Cliff Notes version:
They checked voter records against driver's license records. If someone used non-citizen documents to apply for a driver's license they are being tagged as non-citizens in voter registration records. The problem, of course, is that individuals who are Texas residents but not US citizens at the time of their application for a driver's license can and do change their citizenship status. Further, there is no requirement and no reason at all to notify the department of motor vehicles about said change. Therefore, there are LOTS of US citizens who used non-citizen documents to apply for their driver's license.
To provide some idea about the magnitude of the problem with this "study", about 50,000 Texas residents become naturalized citizens each year. Over the period of the study (1996 - 2016?) that would be about 1,000,000 Texas residents who have become naturalized US citizens. With this, it is actually surprising that they found only 95,000 discrepancies between driver's license records and voter citizenship status.
In terms of verified instances of non-citizens registering to vote the numbers are slightly different than the 95,000. 97 people in total were prosecuted for voter fraud (of all kinds) during the 13 year period ending in 2017. That is an average of 7 - 8 cases per year. It is not clear how many of those 7 per year were related to non-citizenship status but it seems likely that it is somewhat less than 95,000. ;-)"
(sigh)