SAlly V wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Glad you explained yourself.
It is obvious I, HardLoper, am SAlly V. My love / hate for flaggy is my giveaway.
Not that I give a damnnn, but the above post was not the real Sally Vv - just some lame person who registered a bunch of my names previously.
Sally Vixxxxens wrote:
Not that I give a damnnn, but the above post was not the real Sally Vv …
By posting, you certainly give a dammnnn. Your comments are incredibly lame. Get some professional mental health help, ASAP.
I have a solution to the border wall disagreement. Place old white men every 100 feet along the border and have them yell "Get off my lawn!" It will give POTUS supporters something to do besides ruining our country.
Someone please tell me if SallyV is a “woman’s man” or a “man’s woman.” A this point I could care less if Trump goes to prison. I want the vexing question on the vixen answered.
SallyV a man?
Woman be SallyV?
Muller is Coming.
Lucky guy?
Flagpole wrote:
Just the Facts, ma’am wrote:
Can you give us specifics into what coorborating evidence Mueller has and which criminal acts Trump has committed (with supporting evidence, of course) that will lead Trump to go to prison? Thanks.
We have Trump on tape discussing a FELONY campaign finance law violation with Michael Cohen (so Cohen's word AND a recording...AND reportedly corroboration from David Pecker too. Also, Weisselberg wasn't given immunity without being able to provide information they find useful (useful information is corroborated information).
Trump will go to prison for FELONY campaign finance violation (for which there is corroboration) AND bank fraud and other associated fraud that is proven out of the SDNY office. Part of Cohen's sentence is based on his two felony campaign finance violations, and Trump directed him to do that and is named currently as an unindicted co-conspirator. Cohen was given a lighter sentence for cooperating. Typically the one directing the felony gets a longer sentence. The governor of New York will not pardon Trump for the state crimes.
There will also be lots of people that we will know about who have testified that Trump attempted to obstruct justice with them, but we have corroboration on much of that because we have seen him do it in public.
So, the above answers the question you have, but there will be indictments on the federal level too. Pence might pardon, but we will have to see if he has the ability to or the wherewithal to. The totality of the information is going to be damning. He will have to resign or he will be impeached and convicted and removed by the Senate.
Mueller is coming. The SDNY is coming.
The clown is done.
But that’s not Collusion so who cares right? Besides, campaign finance violation is a REAL crime anyway right?
He’s not getting indicted while a sitting president. There’s no successful impeachment without a solid conspiracy charge. Even with a solid conspiracy charge his most ardent supporters (35%) will just say it’s all fake anyway.
Everyone surrounding him could catch fire and he could remain unburned.
I think we will see Trump Jr and Kushner indicted before this is all over. I think we will see Trump subpoenaed before this is all over. Because of that I think Mueller won’t be done for another year due mostly to Trump fighting the subpoena.
Mueller I think has been almost too thorough and Trump’s associates too dirty. If this seems like it’s taking too long then blame those dirty associates not Mueller. Mueller is just doing his job, uncovering cockroaches under every rock.
Alan
Good mourning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Runningart2004 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
We have Trump on tape discussing a FELONY campaign finance law violation with Michael Cohen (so Cohen's word AND a recording...AND reportedly corroboration from David Pecker too. Also, Weisselberg wasn't given immunity without being able to provide information they find useful (useful information is corroborated information).
Trump will go to prison for FELONY campaign finance violation (for which there is corroboration) AND bank fraud and other associated fraud that is proven out of the SDNY office. Part of Cohen's sentence is based on his two felony campaign finance violations, and Trump directed him to do that and is named currently as an unindicted co-conspirator. Cohen was given a lighter sentence for cooperating. Typically the one directing the felony gets a longer sentence. The governor of New York will not pardon Trump for the state crimes.
There will also be lots of people that we will know about who have testified that Trump attempted to obstruct justice with them, but we have corroboration on much of that because we have seen him do it in public.
So, the above answers the question you have, but there will be indictments on the federal level too. Pence might pardon, but we will have to see if he has the ability to or the wherewithal to. The totality of the information is going to be damning. He will have to resign or he will be impeached and convicted and removed by the Senate.
Mueller is coming. The SDNY is coming.
The clown is done.
But that’s not Collusion so who cares right? Besides, campaign finance violation is a REAL crime anyway right?
He’s not getting indicted while a sitting president. There’s no successful impeachment without a solid conspiracy charge. Even with a solid conspiracy charge his most ardent supporters (35%) will just say it’s all fake anyway.
Everyone surrounding him could catch fire and he could remain unburned.
I think we will see Trump Jr and Kushner indicted before this is all over. I think we will see Trump subpoenaed before this is all over. Because of that I think Mueller won’t be done for another year due mostly to Trump fighting the subpoena.
Mueller I think has been almost too thorough and Trump’s associates too dirty. If this seems like it’s taking too long then blame those dirty associates not Mueller. Mueller is just doing his job, uncovering cockroaches under every rock.
Alan
Dude, we don't live under rocks!
But we CAN fly, though.
https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/243838/israeli-scientists-global-warming-gives-cockroaches-superpowersA very stabIe genius! wrote:
Good [morning]! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Okay, thanks! Pleased that the Trump Shutdown has ended, at least for the nonce; but sorry that so far I can't see a reason to think this as a long-term solution.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/trump-tweets-government-shutdown-looms/Cj8SI7JIiSkUHbOifsaVcN/And I'm hopeful that LRCers were not hurt too badly by the last five weeks' torpor.
46980
I am doing awesome! How are you?
Just sayin'... wrote:
A very stabIe genius! wrote:
Good [morning]! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Okay, thanks! Pleased that the Trump Shutdown has ended, at least for the nonce; but sorry that so far I can't see a reason to think this as a long-term solution.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/trump-tweets-government-shutdown-looms/Cj8SI7JIiSkUHbOifsaVcN/And I'm hopeful that LRCers were not hurt too badly by the last five weeks' torpor.
I hear you, brother. The next few weeks will be fascinating for political junkies and simultaneously terrifying for anyone who loves America.
Our politicians need to really get away from using shutdowns as political leverage. This is bad for the country regardless of party affiliation.
My guess is there will be numerous proposals re: border security—including proposals with MORE than 5.7 billion for border security that the Dems will support. The problem is going to be 1) Dems will insist that this funding NOT go to construction of a wall 2) they will likely ask for something like a PERMANENT DACA fix.
My guess is that if there is a 5-10 billion dollar package for border security and reasonable demands for a DACA fix by Dems that many GOP Senators will want to support such legislation. Trump may not though. I do think it is possible that there is a second shutdown.
If the Dems can come across as being reasonable and if they agree to a border security package of > 5.7 billion (but no wall money) AND Trump still plays hardball leading to a shutdown—Trump will suffer politically from such a scenario much more than the Dems.
Just postin’ wrote:
Just sayin'... wrote:
Okay, thanks! Pleased that the Trump Shutdown has ended, at least for the nonce; but sorry that so far I can't see a reason to think this as a long-term solution.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/trump-tweets-government-shutdown-looms/Cj8SI7JIiSkUHbOifsaVcN/And I'm hopeful that LRCers were not hurt too badly by the last five weeks' torpor.
I hear you, brother. The next few weeks will be fascinating for political junkies and simultaneously terrifying for anyone who loves America.
Our politicians need to really get away from using shutdowns as political leverage. This is bad for the country regardless of party affiliation.
My guess is there will be numerous proposals re: border security—including proposals with MORE than 5.7 billion for border security that the Dems will support. The problem is going to be 1) Dems will insist that this funding NOT go to construction of a wall 2) they will likely ask for something like a PERMANENT DACA fix.
My guess is that if there is a 5-10 billion dollar package for border security and reasonable demands for a DACA fix by Dems that many GOP Senators will want to support such legislation. Trump may not though. I do think it is possible that there is a second shutdown.
If the Dems can come across as being reasonable and if they agree to a border security package of > 5.7 billion (but no wall money) AND Trump still plays hardball leading to a shutdown—Trump will suffer politically from such a scenario much more than the Dems.
There is now no chance for any wall funding, even in parts where it makes sense and in ways Dems have approved of before, while Trump is in office. That’s the result of Trump changing his mind about what a “Wall” is, from a huge concrete obstacle spanning the entire border to now fencing/barriers that have been approved by Congress and other administrations for decades.
“The Wall” is now a political tool. Dems have the public behind them on this and so the House will not give him his “Wall” while he is in office, maybe never. He will have to try executive order or declare a state of emergency, which will be challenged by the courts.
Alan
Just postin’ wrote:
Just sayin'... wrote:
Okay, thanks! Pleased that the Trump Shutdown has ended, at least for the nonce; but sorry that so far I can't see a reason to think this as a long-term solution.
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/trump-tweets-government-shutdown-looms/Cj8SI7JIiSkUHbOifsaVcN/And I'm hopeful that LRCers were not hurt too badly by the last five weeks' torpor.
I hear you, brother. The next few weeks will be fascinating for political junkies and simultaneously terrifying for anyone who loves America.
Our politicians need to really get away from using shutdowns as political leverage. This is bad for the country regardless of party affiliation.
My guess is there will be numerous proposals re: border security—including proposals with MORE than 5.7 billion for border security that the Dems will support. The problem is going to be 1) Dems will insist that this funding NOT go to construction of a wall 2) they will likely ask for something like a PERMANENT DACA fix.
My guess is that if there is a 5-10 billion dollar package for border security and reasonable demands for a DACA fix by Dems that many GOP Senators will want to support such legislation. Trump may not though. I do think it is possible that there is a second shutdown.
If the Dems can come across as being reasonable and if they agree to a border security package of > 5.7 billion (but no wall money) AND Trump still plays hardball leading to a shutdown—Trump will suffer politically from such a scenario much more than the Dems.
Although Trump likes to say Democrats want open borders I haven't read anything about disagreements about how much to spend on border patrol, new fencing and technology. The dispute has been 100% about whether Trump's wall makes sense.
I don't know what a reasonable fix for DACA would be. I believe some Republican senators would like to end DACA and don't give a sh-t about the wall, so amnesty would never get approved. Even if Trump can get his hands on DACA, polls indicate over 80% support for allowing them to stay, so if he starting deporting them the reaction would be even worse than it was for separating families at the border.
jesseriley wrote:
The shutdown was supposed to be a distraction from Mueller, which seems funny now. Now trump has a few million newly minted enemies who were unpaid for no reason, and Mueller is stronger than ever. There’s nothing the Supreme Court can do about it, even if they wanted to.
Disagree, nobody I work with blames Trump. We're painfully aware of border issues and it seems pretty clear Pelosi and Schumer have other motives than national border security.
Johnnie wrote:
Poor whites should have opposed slavery in their own self interest (in addition to the obvious moral issue). But the poor whites were kept towing the line and actively supporting the folks who they should have opposed (plantation owners) because, as crappy as it was to be a poor, ignorant white man in Antebellum South at least they were not black slaves.
. . . Poor whites should be in league with poor brown people and immigrants for their own self interest. But the poor whites are kept towing the line and actively supporting the folks who they should oppose (the rich and big corporations) because, as crappy as it is to be a poor, ignorant white man at least they are not brown immigrants.
Point taken, but that's actually "toeing."
Johnnie wrote:
Poor whites should have opposed slavery in their own self interest (in addition to the obvious moral issue). But the poor whites were kept towing the line and actively supporting the folks who they should have opposed (plantation owners) because, as crappy as it was to be a poor, ignorant white man in Antebellum South at least they were not black slaves.
. . . Poor whites should be in league with poor brown people and immigrants for their own self interest. But the poor whites are kept towing the line and actively supporting the folks who they should oppose (the rich and big corporations) because, as crappy as it is to be a poor, ignorant white man at least they are not brown immigrants.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”--Lyndon Johnson
The Fokus wrote:
L L wrote:
Ann Coulter is on Bill Maher's Real time tonight.
There's two reasons not to watch. Thanks.
Okay, I LOLed.
Opps, my super support bra busted and my boobs are sagging.
Pelosi and Schumer’s motives are to do what the majority of American voters elected them to do. And it’s not Trump’s agenda.
Speaking of border security, Trump’s policy of turning asylum seekers away at legal entrances has encouraged many of them to pursue illegal crossings to seek safety.