Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

This Manly Man wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

If true, they still add up to obstruction of justice --- unless Trump is truly mental. In that case, they add up to the 25th amendment.

Either way, it's grounds to remove him as president. It all just a matter of when and if the Republicans in congress and the cabinet want to follow through.

You're talking to yourself.

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage. As such, these charges don't add up to a hill of beans.

There is no intent to obstruct justice. There is not even an understanding of what "justice" means. And Congress will NOT act on anything unless and until they think that they themselves benefit.

Not a hill of beans.

You have a very low opinion of the Republicans in congress. As far as intent to obstruct, he clearly did everything he could from initial pressure from his office to actually firing Comey to slow the progression of this investigation. Then he admits it to Lester and brags about it to the Russians.

Is stupidity an impeachable offence?

Mistakenly voted trump wrote:

This Manly Man wrote:

You're talking to yourself.

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage. As such, these charges don't add up to a hill of beans.

There is no intent to obstruct justice. There is not even an understanding of what "justice" means. And Congress will NOT act on anything unless and until they think that they themselves benefit.

Not a hill of beans.

You have a very low opinion of the Republicans in congress. As far as intent to obstruct, he clearly did everything he could from initial pressure from his office to actually firing Comey to slow the progression of this investigation. Then he admits it to Lester and brags about it to the Russians.

Is stupidity an impeachable offence?

It actually is...

This Manly Man wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

If true, they still add up to obstruction of justice --- unless Trump is truly mental. In that case, they add up to the 25th amendment.

Either way, it's grounds to remove him as president. It all just a matter of when and if the Republicans in congress and the cabinet want to follow through.

You're talking to yourself.

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage. As such, these charges don't add up to a hill of beans.

There is no intent to obstruct justice. There is not even an understanding of what "justice" means. And Congress will NOT act on anything unless and until they think that they themselves benefit.

Not a hill of beans.

That's pretty much what I said, except that Trump definitely intended to obstruct justice. He just thought he could get away with it. And he might be right.

Mistakenly voted trump wrote:

Also Michele's picture being taken when she is not smiling is much different than Melania forcibly pushing Trumps hand away. Like everything about trump this marriage is fake. It's pretty clear, Melania, like most of the country, can't stand trump.

Melania wants none of this. She wants to hang out in New York, shop and look good. This politics crap is cramping her lifestyle bigly. Having secret service helicoptering around her head all day ain't her bag.

"They're losers, that's what I will call them from now on, because that's what they are, losers"

Does DT have the mind of a 15yo boy?

The word "monster" and other seemingly derogatory terms are ineffective, and in fact celebrated by Islamic radicals. However, terrorists don't like to be called "losers" because it implies (1) that they will lose and (2) that they have chosen the meaningless existence. Many of the terrorists stem from good financial backing and upbringings. Using the world "losers" indicts the very puppet masters of terrorism who act on the fundamental basis that their righteous cause is somehow superior in all conceivable ways. "Losers" hits harder than you might think - stop being a stupid liberal.

Are you suggesting that because the term hits harder, it will deter the violence?

These are people ready to die

Phife wrote:

"They're losers, that's what I will call them from now on, because that's what they are, losers"

Does DT have the mind of a 15yo boy?

Yes he does! The fact that Trump behaves like an adolescent boy is why his base (poor, uneducated white men from rural areas) voted for him. Like Hingle, they loooovvvveeeee a good fart joke!

This Manly Man wrote:

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage.

I agree.

And I do think it may get to a point where they are at a political disadvantage if they let him continue as he does and destroys the name of the Republicans.

He is not a Republican. He's some businessman who used that party to get elected.

But now he is the face of the Republican party and they may not want that.

If impeaching Trump saves some of the Republican seats, they will do that.

Independent wrote:

The word "monster" and other seemingly derogatory terms are ineffective, and in fact celebrated by Islamic radicals. However, terrorists don't like to be called "losers" because it implies (1) that they will lose and (2) that they have chosen the meaningless existence. Many of the terrorists stem from good financial backing and upbringings. Using the world "losers" indicts the very puppet masters of terrorism who act on the fundamental basis that their righteous cause is somehow superior in all conceivable ways. "Losers" hits harder than you might think - stop being a stupid liberal.

Also a good point

Mistakenly voted trump wrote:

You have a very low opinion of the Republicans in congress. As far as intent to obstruct, he clearly did everything he could from initial pressure from his office to actually firing Comey to slow the progression of this investigation. Then he admits it to Lester and brags about it to the Russians.

Is stupidity an impeachable offence?

Well, the political estimations have to be done with a heavy bias towards keeping the idiot in office.

If the poll numbers keep dropping, they will have to come up with a way to end him in time before 2020. One of the problems here is Pence is a theocrat with more in common with Iran's government system than an American one. He presents his own problems in a general election.

That's IF the poll numbers keep falling. If they don't, then it's more of the same. And the poll numbers might not fall much further. People love fascist leaders.

Mistakenly voted trump wrote:

This Manly Man wrote:

You're talking to yourself.

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage. As such, these charges don't add up to a hill of beans.

There is no intent to obstruct justice. There is not even an understanding of what "justice" means. And Congress will NOT act on anything unless and until they think that they themselves benefit.

Not a hill of beans.

You have a very low opinion of the Republicans in congress. As far as intent to obstruct, he clearly did everything he could from initial pressure from his office to actually firing Comey to slow the progression of this investigation. Then he admits it to Lester and brags about it to the Russians.

Is stupidity an impeachable offence?

And you don't "have a very low opinion of the Republicans in congress"?!? So, you think they will attempt to remove Trump when it is not to their OWN advantage? If you seriously think that then you are hopelessly naive. My guess is that you too are fully aware that their actions (or lack thereof) will be based 100% on their own self interests. They will move against Trump only if and when he becomes a bigger liability to them in office than he would be during and after removal from office.

Now as far as intent to obstruct - did you not read my post? You are interpreting his moves as if he is a sane adult. He is not.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Well, the political estimations have to be done with a heavy bias towards keeping the idiot in office.

If the poll numbers keep dropping, they will have to come up with a way to end him in time before 2020. One of the problems here is Pence is a theocrat with more in common with Iran's government system than an American one. He presents his own problems in a general election.

That's IF the poll numbers keep falling. If they don't, then it's more of the same. And the poll numbers might not fall much further. People love fascist leaders.

Correction: SOME people love fascist leaders. More specifically, Trumpettes love fascists leaders (as does Trump himself). Real Americans do NOT love fascist leaders.

New poll from the Georgia special election - the democrat polled 7 points up on the republican. Ina republican district.

If the democrat wins in GA next month you will start seeing Repubs break with Trump. Expect to see trump visiting GA and making dog whistle pro-confederacy statements - he will try to make the election down there a race war, because he knows that if the Dems win that seat, his entire admin is at threat. If the Repubs won't shield him because he is box office poison, he's a lame duck quacking, and possibly worse, given the investigations.

L L wrote:

This Manly Man wrote:

Repubs in Congress will NOT impeach Trump unless (and ONLY unless) they think that it is to their own political advantage.

I agree.

And I do think it may get to a point where they are at a political disadvantage if they let him continue as he does and destroys the name of the Republicans.

He is not a Republican. He's some businessman who used that party to get elected.

But now he is the face of the Republican party and they may not want that.

If impeaching Trump saves some of the Republican seats, they will do that.

Their dilemma is that leaving him be costs them with independents and acting against him costs them with the Trump base. Until the base starts moving away from Trump they will (uncomfortably) leave him be, but there's damage being done for the 2018 Congressional races either way.

Independent wrote:

The word "monster" and other seemingly derogatory terms are ineffective, and in fact celebrated by Islamic radicals. However, terrorists don't like to be called "losers" because it implies (1) that they will lose and (2) that they have chosen the meaningless existence. Many of the terrorists stem from good financial backing and upbringings. Using the world "losers" indicts the very puppet masters of terrorism who act on the fundamental basis that their righteous cause is somehow superior in all conceivable ways. "Losers" hits harder than you might think - stop being a stupid liberal.

Yes, terrorists hate it when you call them names!!! Trump is a genius!!!

Now we finally know his secret plan to defeat ISIS.

Eric a Blair wrote:

New poll from the Georgia special election - the democrat polled 7 points up on the republican. Ina republican district.

If the democrat wins in GA next month you will start seeing Repubs break with Trump. Expect to see trump visiting GA and making dog whistle pro-confederacy statements - he will try to make the election down there a race war, because he knows that if the Dems win that seat, his entire admin is at threat. If the Repubs won't shield him because he is box office poison, he's a lame duck quacking, and possibly worse, given the investigations.

It's not a redneck district. It's a metro Atlanta suburb full of Bush conservatives. They go to work every day with black professionals. Racial politics won't play well.

I'll be surprised if Trump goes anywhere near it.

Fat hurts wrote:

Eric a Blair wrote:

New poll from the Georgia special election - the democrat polled 7 points up on the republican. Ina republican district.

If the democrat wins in GA next month you will start seeing Repubs break with Trump. Expect to see trump visiting GA and making dog whistle pro-confederacy statements - he will try to make the election down there a race war, because he knows that if the Dems win that seat, his entire admin is at threat. If the Repubs won't shield him because he is box office poison, he's a lame duck quacking, and possibly worse, given the investigations.

It's not a redneck district. It's a metro Atlanta suburb full of Bush conservatives. They go to work every day with black professionals. Racial politics won't play well.

I'll be surprised if Trump goes anywhere near it.

your view is that only rednecks vote racially?

The district is 71% white. It's not urban. it's in the deep South. I understand it is not in Deliverance territory, but that doesn't mean it's immune to the old dog whistles.

I think if turnout on the R side looks light, Trump will do some robocalls and tweets to firm up the base. I don't see him actually appearing no.

eric a blair wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

It's not a redneck district. It's a metro Atlanta suburb full of Bush conservatives. They go to work every day with black professionals. Racial politics won't play well.

I'll be surprised if Trump goes anywhere near it.

your view is that only rednecks vote racially?

The district is 71% white. It's not urban. it's in the deep South. I understand it is not in Deliverance territory, but that doesn't mean it's immune to the old dog whistles.

I think if turnout on the R side looks light, Trump will do some robocalls and tweets to firm up the base. I don't see him actually appearing no.

You were talking about pro-confederacy stuff. That's not who these people are. Take a look at the actual makeup of the district. Lots of the Republicans there are yankee transplants who came to Atlanta for their jobs. Others are evangelicals. Others are traditional Reagan conservatives.

Very few are the kind you might find in south Georgia who would react to racial dog whistles. In the Atlanta area, people are very sophisticated when it comes to racial politics. This is the home of MLK. It's the home of millions of black professionals.

The Democrat is being painted as naive and pro-ISIS. The Republican is being painted as a corrupt politician. I've yet to see racial politics enter the mix at all.