agip wrote:
it truly is exasperating that people like Igy and smtc defend a president who has lived his entire life committing crimes, has surrounded himself with criminals in the WH and before the WH, lies to us every day, and shames the WH with his behavior.
The only thing I am defending is the legal system.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
Well I can assure you when I'm lying back it ain't Trump I'm thinkin of.
Really pretty much spot on. The obsession is bizarre.
Igy don't sugarcoat yourself by saying you're just all about the legal system.
here you are saying nothing about the legal system - you are agreeing that anti-trumpers are obsessed, and you agree that they are just anxiety ridden and not being reasonable.
you try to have it both ways - to defend trump and not defend trump.
Take a position and stay with it. Or get anohter handle for your other position.
Wowzers!!!!!!! wrote:
2 min wrote:
For two minutes, if that, including the time to get in an out of the prez-mobile. He spoke for a whooping 7 seconds.
https://twitter.com/jejharrington/status/1087383883061125120Wow, that was ugly!
Seriously folks, watch the video. It is worth 20 seconds of your time.
Makes you wonder how he responded behind closed doors when he was told he needed to make an appearance. Also I’m sure he took his time consuming his daily dose of FOX policy briefings. Anyway, that’s all speculation, I should only base my opinion on things Trump has said and don... oh wait
Trump: “There were fine people on both ends of James Earl Ray’s rifle.”
Trump: “Make hate great again.”
Trump: “I have a dream; to destroy this nation.”
China awards Ivanka Trump 16 trademarks as her father was negotating a trade war
Russia considers awarding trump the contract for a giant hotel as he is running for president and writing the GOP platform on sanctions against russia.
Anyone ah see a pattern here? That everyone knows Trump can be bought off pretty cheaply?
kibitzer wrote:
Trump don't know jack-sheet wrote:
Trump on how much a border wall would cost:
Trump knows absolutely nothing about construction. It is no wonder he has gone bankrupt so many times.
- Sept. 14, 2015: $4 billion
- Sept. 30, 2015: $5 billion
- Nov. 8, 2015: $6 or 7 billion
- Feb. 9, 2016: $8 billion
- Feb. 27, 2016: $10 or $12 billion
- Jan. 24, 2018: $25 billion
A reminder that Trump’s 2019 budget requested $1.6 billion for the wall.
What people on *all* sides of the question need to remember is that the total estimated cost of The Wall would be on the order of $50 billion--exclusive of maintenance costs and the costs of eminent-domain seizures and litigation--and that $1.6bn or $5.7bn would simply be the FIRST INSTALLMENT.
Many people don't realize that The Wall would cost so much, and they need to be informed. But some people *do* know it, and nevertheless talk as though$5.7bn (or whatever) would be the total price tag. They know better, but still quote the smaller figure in a deliberate attempt to mislead.
And a deliberate attempt to mislead is lying. They're liars and should be called out for it repeatedly.
This can't be repeated often enough.
Also, if there were no legal challenges (everyone on the border said: "sure, build a wall through my property" and unlimited funding, how long would it take to build? Then considering the likely legal challenges, how long would it take if there were sufficient political support to get enough funding? Is it feasible to do before the next Presidential election? What about the 2024 election?
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/01/21/kamala-harris-announces-presidential-campaign/2632083002/Hahahahahaha!!!!
Another hillary piece of trash.
Democrat “men” voting for women is hilarious!!!!
Democrats lose again!!!!
So you feel men shouldn't vote for women? Sad
agip wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Really pretty much spot on. The obsession is bizarre.
Igy don't sugarcoat yourself by saying you're just all about the legal system.
here you are saying nothing about the legal system - you are agreeing that anti-trumpers are obsessed, and you agree that they are just anxiety ridden and not being reasonable.
you try to have it both ways - to defend trump and not defend trump.
Take a position and stay with it. Or get anohter handle for your other position.
I don’t need to defend Trump, he has attorneys for that. Just like the media does not need to try Trump, Mueller has the ability to charge and refer for prosecution or report to Congress. That seems not to be enough for you. Like the Kavanaugh hearing, much that turned out to be wrong and politically motivated. The constant harranging and theorizing here seems over the top. That’s all.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
agip wrote:
Igy don't sugarcoat yourself by saying you're just all about the legal system.
here you are saying nothing about the legal system - you are agreeing that anti-trumpers are obsessed, and you agree that they are just anxiety ridden and not being reasonable.
you try to have it both ways - to defend trump and not defend trump.
Take a position and stay with it. Or get anohter handle for your other position.
I don’t need to defend Trump, he has attorneys for that. Just like the media does not need to try Trump, Mueller has the ability to charge and refer for prosecution or report to Congress. That seems not to be enough for you. Like the Kavanaugh hearing, much that turned out to be wrong and politically motivated. The constant harranging and theorizing here seems over the top. That’s all.
Being over the top and perpetually offended is what keeps Flagpole, LL, Fathurts, and Trollminator busy all day.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
That's been the logical solution all along.
For the poster who says the president can't fix it alone, he's sort of right. But presumably, the fix would be written into the legislation. So you could do a comprehensive deal that:
1. Opens the government
2. Funds the wall
3. Provides permanent residence and a path to citizenship for the dreamers
I just don't think Tiny will go for it because it would be the kind of legislation that makes for good government. He doesn't want the government to work properly. He's trying to break it and bend it to his will.
I really think he believes that sowing utter chaos is his only chance to stay in power and avoid prison. And he might be right.
The thing I don't understand about the wall is why it seems so binary. Trump seems to be insisting on a 2000 mile wall, from ocean to gulf. Which can't happen, won't happen and will not happen.
The Dems are fine with walls where they make sense, and they all all for border security.
So stop with the binary wall/no wall.
Have an agreement for 100 miles of new border wall and fixing old walls, and increasing tech for border cops. It all seems so simple to me. Stupid politics.
Why don’t you actually educate yourself on the proposal and get back to us before making such ignorant statements.
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
agip wrote:
Igy don't sugarcoat yourself by saying you're just all about the legal system.
here you are saying nothing about the legal system - you are agreeing that anti-trumpers are obsessed, and you agree that they are just anxiety ridden and not being reasonable.
you try to have it both ways - to defend trump and not defend trump.
Take a position and stay with it. Or get anohter handle for your other position.
I don’t need to defend Trump, he has attorneys for that. Just like the media does not need to try Trump, Mueller has the ability to charge and refer for prosecution or report to Congress. That seems not to be enough for you. Like the Kavanaugh hearing, much that turned out to be wrong and politically motivated. The constant harranging and theorizing here seems over the top. That’s all.
Have you seen his attorneys in action? Pretty sure they could use your help.
Drew Peacock wrote:
Also, if there were no legal challenges (everyone on the border said: "sure, build a wall through my property" and unlimited funding, how long would it take to build? Then considering the likely legal challenges, how long would it take if there were sufficient political support to get enough funding? Is it feasible to do before the next Presidential election? What about the 2024 election?
But bear in mind, litigation is *still* underway--more than a decade later--over property that the U.S. tried to seize via eminent domain in 2007, during GWB's fence-building effort. Realistically, and speaking only about litigation (i.e. ignoring that realities of construction along certain parts of the border), a wall could not be finished before 2030.
Day THIRTY-TWO of the DONALD TRUMP SHUTDOWN . . . hang in there, everybody!
agip wrote:
China awards Ivanka Trump 16 trademarks as her father was negotating a trade war
Russia considers awarding trump the contract for a giant hotel as he is running for president and writing the GOP platform on sanctions against russia.
Anyone ah see a pattern here? That everyone knows Trump can be bought off pretty cheaply?
Don't forget about the Saudi's, who spent a lot of money at Trump's DC hotel, and then became Trump's BFF in the Middle East.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Democrats lose again wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-students-full-video-shows-viral-protest-new-light/2635085002/Democrat pieces of trash, agip, flagpole, et al, once again are proven wrong.
You democrat pieces of trash are disgusting.
Check out @roflinds’s Tweet:
https://twitter.com/roflinds/status/1087486166939680768?s=09Take a look at these poor misunderstood white RepubliKKKKan kids doing what they do best. Notice in the comments how the right wingers try to make excuses for their behavior. They all want to make up shittt that COULD have happen. Thats one of the favorite go to lines of the racist right when faced with police brutality videos. "We don't know what happen before the video started". How about admitting that they are a bunch of little a$$holes.
By the way, did you notice that no Caucassians came to the defense of Kareem Hunt by using their go to "We don't know what happen before the video started" excuse.
Wow...so these idiots are not the choir boys Fox News made them out to be.
johnny99 wrote:
agip wrote:
China awards Ivanka Trump 16 trademarks as her father was negotating a trade war
Russia considers awarding trump the contract for a giant hotel as he is running for president and writing the GOP platform on sanctions against russia.
Anyone ah see a pattern here? That everyone knows Trump can be bought off pretty cheaply?
Don't forget about the Saudi's, who spent a lot of money at Trump's DC hotel, and then became Trump's BFF in the Middle East.
and T Mobile, who wanted to get a merger approved, so they spent money at trump's hotel.
completely corrupt. and shows how low the Rs have fallen and how easily the world has taken the measure of the president.
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/16/18185162/t-mobile-legere-trump-international-hotelhttps://www.businessinsider.com/trump-saudi-arabia-financial-interests-ties-hotel-bookings-sales-2018-10https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.c3c9149479cfagip wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Don't forget about the Saudi's, who spent a lot of money at Trump's DC hotel, and then became Trump's BFF in the Middle East.
and T Mobile, who wanted to get a merger approved, so they spent money at trump's hotel.
completely corrupt. and shows how low the Rs have fallen and how easily the world has taken the measure of the president.
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/16/18185162/t-mobile-legere-trump-international-hotel