Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
Right.
Such as the lead story on cnn.com
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.htmlScroll down and you will see the story still on their site.
Is it still true that Buzzfeed reported it?
Notice the bias wrote:
Notice how democrat sponsored media (all of them) were quick to propagate the buzzfeed and now silent on the mueller contradiction.
Let's hear the LR Trump haters try to spin this. Total humiliation for the libs today.
M-A-G-A!!!
The Fokus wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Scroll down and you will see the story still on their site.
Is it still true that Buzzfeed reported it?
It is the promotion of an agenda that is the issue. Just like this thread.
TTH wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Mueller calls Buzzfeed's "Bombshell" report FAKE NEWS!!! LMAOOOO!!!
Unfortunately for you, no he didn't. The what is very carefully worded statement mentions merely that the "description" of the statements Cohen made along with the "characterization" of the what would be corroborating documents are inaccurate.
"inaccurate" can mean anything from no statement and no documents to statement but no documents to any other spin you'd want to put on it.
If it were completely false or fake news, the counsel's office would have worded it as such.
Nice try. It was fake news and you fell for it.
Bahahahaha!!!!
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
Is it still true that Buzzfeed reported it?
It is the promotion of an agenda that is the issue. Just like this thread.
So Foxnews.com has the same agenda since it is still up on their Political page I guess.
CNN and MSNBC promoted this story all day long. Fox did not. The other two ran with it because it is their agenda.
Period.
The Fokus wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
According to the story there is multiple forms of corroborating evidence. Assuming that is true what do you say about that? Is that not physical evidence?
If the report shows conspiracy by Trump I don’t see 90% of Rs still supporting him. Sheep are sheep. Once the other Rs in Congress start turning so will R public.
Alan
The story is that there is corroborating evidence. The question is whether the story can be corroborated which the writer has said he's not been able to do.
In terms of Trump's political support, unless a good many Republicans in Congress believe that continued support will cost their own political life, I don't think they waver. It's possible enough could but I wouldn't count on. The other political issue at play is in regards to Trump's electable-ness in 2020. While polls are against him now, I'm not sure there are enough Republicans who'd vote Democrat in a national election to swing the election to the Democrats. Arguments can be made against this theory but when push comes to shove voters stick to their Party affiliation.
It’s never about voters switching sides. It’s about getting your people to the polls. Many 2016 Trump voters will simply stay home. Because of that Trump loses at least PA, WI and MI and that’s all she wrote .
Alan
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Notice the bias wrote:
Notice how democrat sponsored media (all of them) were quick to propagate the buzzfeed and now silent on the mueller contradiction.
Well look at the crap that was promoted by those media outlets during the Kavanaugh hearing. Same B.S. that is spouted as fact on this thread every day.
"Two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement. … A spokesperson for the Office of Special Counsel declined to comment."
So, it is source is not so much the special counsel's office, but two other unnamed sources. It is far more likely that the unnamed sources were republican operatives working on the assumption that Mueller's office would be pressed to make a statement, or that Cohen would be pressed to deny it, meanwhile causing Trumpers to foam at the mouth.
BTW, it is very likely that Trump pressed Cohen to not be truthful with Congress, while never saying the word "lie." Take it as you like, but the most likely scenario is that Trump presses government witnesses to obfuscate the truth. I base this on Trump threatening Cohen's father-in-law. Why publicly rave and make threats about what Trump cries is a nothing burger?
by trumpers wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Well look at the crap that was promoted by those media outlets during the Kavanaugh hearing. Same B.S. that is spouted as fact on this thread every day.
"Two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement. … A spokesperson for the Office of Special Counsel declined to comment."
So, it is source is not so much the special counsel's office, but two other unnamed sources. It is far more likely that the unnamed sources were republican operatives working on the assumption that Mueller's office would be pressed to make a statement, or that Cohen would be pressed to deny it, meanwhile causing Trumpers to foam at the mouth.
BTW, it is very likely that Trump pressed Cohen to not be truthful with Congress, while never saying the word "lie." Take it as you like, but the most likely scenario is that Trump presses government witnesses to obfuscate the truth. I base this on Trump threatening Cohen's father-in-law. Why publicly rave and make threats about what Trump cries is a nothing burger?
More theories of what you want to believe.
Your agenda.
Runningart2004 wrote:
The Fokus wrote:
The story is that there is corroborating evidence. The question is whether the story can be corroborated which the writer has said he's not been able to do.
In terms of Trump's political support, unless a good many Republicans in Congress believe that continued support will cost their own political life, I don't think they waver. It's possible enough could but I wouldn't count on. The other political issue at play is in regards to Trump's electable-ness in 2020. While polls are against him now, I'm not sure there are enough Republicans who'd vote Democrat in a national election to swing the election to the Democrats. Arguments can be made against this theory but when push comes to shove voters stick to their Party affiliation.
It’s never about voters switching sides. It’s about getting your people to the polls. Many 2016 Trump voters will simply stay home. Because of that Trump loses at least PA, WI and MI and that’s all she wrote .
Alan
Nope. It will be six more years of Trump. He will win the popular vote in 2020 too. Liberal heads will continue to explode.
Flagpolian Flops are coming
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
by trumpers wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Well look at the crap that was promoted by those media outlets during the Kavanaugh hearing. Same B.S. that is spouted as fact on this thread every day.
"Two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement. … A spokesperson for the Office of Special Counsel declined to comment."
So, it is source is not so much the special counsel's office, but two other unnamed sources. It is far more likely that the unnamed sources were republican operatives working on the assumption that Mueller's office would be pressed to make a statement, or that Cohen would be pressed to deny it, meanwhile causing Trumpers to foam at the mouth.
BTW, it is very likely that Trump pressed Cohen to not be truthful with Congress, while never saying the word "lie." Take it as you like, but the most likely scenario is that Trump presses government witnesses to obfuscate the truth. I base this on Trump threatening Cohen's father-in-law. Why publicly rave and make threats about what Trump cries is a nothing burger?
Take your loss today like a man. Stop trying to spin- it's not helping your side. You lost this battle.
Move on.
Funny. Desperation of the insane obsession.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
CNN and MSNBC promoted this story all day long. Fox did not. The other two ran with it because it is their agenda.
Period.
....and now FoxNews is running in the other direction with the report out of the Mueller camp because it is their agenda.
Period.
As a post script, the dopey Democrats (Politicians not the dopey Dems on this board) who "ran with it" and brought up impeachment based on the report are just complete idiots and are the reason why a Trump victory in 2020 is even a consideration.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ha, ha ha, lies from your side.....
https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1086421048206053376?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
That is interesting.
He said the Buzzfeed report was not accurate.
He didn't say it was not true.
The White House also refused to say it was not true.
The special council's office is famous for not saying anything at all. Something about this story touched a nerve.
OK, I’ll buy that.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Funny. Desperation of the insane obsession.
Thanks, Ghost! Have a great weekend. I'm out.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Funny. Desperation of the insane obsession.
Thanks, Ghost! Have a great weekend. I'm out.
Me too. Enough damage done to the Liberal Agenda. Over and out. 10-4.
Fat hurts wrote:
That is interesting.
He said the Buzzfeed report was not accurate.
He didn't say it was not true.
The White House also refused to say it was not true.
The special council's office is famous for not saying anything at all. Something about this story touched a nerve.
We'll know soon enough.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
It’s never about voters switching sides. It’s about getting your people to the polls. Many 2016 Trump voters will simply stay home. Because of that Trump loses at least PA, WI and MI and that’s all she wrote .
Alan
Nope. It will be six more years of Trump. He will win the popular vote in 2020 too. Liberal heads will continue to explode.
Flagpolian Flops are coming
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Zero chance. What’s your bet? Humiliating video posted to let’s run? Name your price. I’m not a liberal, I’m a realist :)
I think he will make it to 2020 and get pounded. I think enough dems stayed home in key states, especially blue bedrock states like WI/MI, because they were butthurt over Sanders, felt Trump had no chance, and Hillary is a biotch.
The Hispanic birthrate itself is enough to sink Trump.
Buzzfeed got schooled.
Alan
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Thanks, Ghost! Have a great weekend. I'm out.
Me too. Enough damage done to the Liberal Agenda. Over and out. 10-4.
HI-larious that you Trumpers have found some joy over a news report that Mueller's office has stated is "not accurate". You couldn't care less about any other thing Mueller's office ever says. I thought Mueller was horrible and they were all angry Democrats!
Also, for the record, I had earlier in the day mentioned that there was a possibility this story was not true. We still don't know the truth though...the Buzzfeed author is sticking by his story, so we don't know really what Mueller's team had issue with.
Trump was going down with or without this story, and as I also said earlier today, it will just get worse from here. A wrong fact or story here or there doesn't wipe away all the criminality that he has engaged in. He's fighting a losing battle.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.