That's 14:27 pace wrote:
Carl 7 wrote:Sandy has done 27 miles after 6.5 hours.
That's not bad. It looks like she recovered some.
What pace did Pete K average?
Between 12-13. About 70 miles and 14 hours per day.
That's 14:27 pace wrote:
Carl 7 wrote:Sandy has done 27 miles after 6.5 hours.
That's not bad. It looks like she recovered some.
What pace did Pete K average?
Between 12-13. About 70 miles and 14 hours per day.
He did like 72 miles in 13 hours. He was a lot faster and had a lot more rest which makes all the difference.
Markus wrote:
He did like 72 miles in 13 hours. He was a lot faster and had a lot more rest which makes all the difference.
Pete is the one who set up Sandy's run. Rest stops, etc. He recommended 10 hours per day entirely off your feet. Sandy has been doing that.
He averaged just over 5 mph. His runs were mostly around 13-1/2 hours. His full daily data is here.
http://petesfeetaa.comLooks like full recovery; 4mph has been her pace throughout.
Carl 7 wrote:
Sandy has done 27 miles after 6.5 hours.
That's not bad. It looks like she recovered some.
Mimi's Strava indicates that the last few days she has been running at better than 8 km/mile, or over 5+ mph. In 13-1/2 hours of running, which was a typical Pete K day, she would cover 70 miles which is really close to Pete's 72 mile per day average. Hmmmm. ....
If so, sounds fishy.
Fast Mimi? wrote:
Mimi's Strava indicates that the last few days she has been running at better than 8 km/mile, or over 5+ mph. In 13-1/2 hours of running, which was a typical Pete K day, she would cover 70 miles which is really close to Pete's 72 mile per day average. Hmmmm. ....
I checked and she is averaging 13-14min/mile or 4.4mph, so 60 miles in 13.5 hours. Sounds right, not fishy after all.
We May Never Know wrote:
If so, sounds fishy.
Fast Mimi? wrote:Mimi's Strava indicates that the last few days she has been running at better than 8 km/mile, or over 5+ mph. In 13-1/2 hours of running, which was a typical Pete K day, she would cover 70 miles which is really close to Pete's 72 mile per day average. Hmmmm. ....
Mimi: Lunch Run. RUN September 22, 201741.2km Distance788m Elevation6:39:12 Moving Time9:41/km Avg Pacehttps://www.strava.com/activities/1198072073
We May Never Know wrote:
I checked and she is averaging 13-14min/mile or 4.4mph, so 60 miles in 13.5 hours. Sounds right, not fishy after all.
We May Never Know wrote:If so, sounds fishy.
Yup, 15:00 miles (probably hilly)
Fast Mimi? wrote:
Mimi: Lunch Run. RUN September 22, 2017
41.2km Distance
788m Elevation
6:39:12 Moving Time
9:41/km Avg Pace
https://www.strava.com/activities/1198072073We May Never Know wrote:I checked and she is averaging 13-14min/mile or 4.4mph, so 60 miles in 13.5 hours. Sounds right, not fishy after all.
14 hours wrote:
Markus wrote:He did like 72 miles in 13 hours. He was a lot faster and had a lot more rest which makes all the difference.
Pete is the one who set up Sandy's run. Rest stops, etc. He recommended 10 hours per day entirely off your feet. Sandy has been doing that.
He averaged just over 5 mph. His runs were mostly around 13-1/2 hours. His full daily data is here.
http://petesfeetaa.com
It doesn't matter much what Pete did, since Sandy is much slower and older. Pete is a world class runner, Sandy is not. You can't compare them period.
Sandy has to do her thing and not Pete's. I can see that people who have never run that long, don't understand.
Carl 7 wrote:
14 hours wrote:Pete is the one who set up Sandy's run. Rest stops, etc. He recommended 10 hours per day entirely off your feet. Sandy has been doing that.
He averaged just over 5 mph. His runs were mostly around 13-1/2 hours. His full daily data is here.
http://petesfeetaa.comIt doesn't matter much what Pete did, since Sandy is much slower and older. Pete is a world class runner, Sandy is not. You can't compare them period.
Sandy has to do her thing and not Pete's. I can see that people who have never run that long, don't understand.
The comment is about hours of running per day which has nothing to do with "world class". Why is that supposed experts, like you, don't understand that?
14 hours wrote:
Carl 7 wrote:It doesn't matter much what Pete did, since Sandy is much slower and older. Pete is a world class runner, Sandy is not. You can't compare them period.
Sandy has to do her thing and not Pete's. I can see that people who have never run that long, don't understand.
The comment is about hours of running per day which has nothing to do with "world class". Why is that supposed experts, like you, don't understand that?
This is true. The distance covered is what is different between levels of runners. I know several sub 3 hour marathoners who cannot run for 12 hours in a day, not even 6 hours—they have never tried to run that long.
The comment is about hours of running per day which has nothing to do with "world class". Why is that supposed experts, like you, don't understand that?
Running hours per day is just an indicator but doesn't tell the full story.
If you push to hard like Sandy did, you end up with 30-40 mile days.
You have to run in a way that you don't overdue it because you have to do it the next day again.
So Pete's 13 hours might have been easy for him but Sandy's 13 hours are tough on her. Still the same 13 hours but a totally different outcome over weeks.
We have to see what will happen in the next days. But her run might be over soon.
Carl 7 wrote:
Running hours per day is just an indicator but doesn't tell the full story.
If you push to hard like Sandy did, you end up with 30-40 mile days.
You have to run in a way that you don't overdue it because you have to do it the next day again.
So Pete's 13 hours might have been easy for him but Sandy's 13 hours are tough on her. Still the same 13 hours but a totally different outcome over weeks.
We have to see what will happen in the next days. But her run might be over soon.
How did you "determine" she pushed hard? She pushed slow per the Strava data.
And no, hours are hours. Some people can do it. Other cannot. Pete is an outlier. Better runners over shorter distances would fail to outlast him. So, why can't Sandy be one of those people who can run for hours on end? So far all you have provided is "your" opinion.
Sandy looks to be on pace to cover 52 miles in 13 hours today (when it gets dark in UT): she has 40 miles covered in a total of 10:40 including breaks, ~10 hours of running.
How did you "determine" she pushed hard? She pushed slow per the Strava data.
And no, hours are hours. Some people can do it. Other cannot. Pete is an outlier. Better runners over shorter distances would fail to outlast him. So, why can't Sandy be one of those people who can run for hours on end? So far all you have provided is "your" opinion.
Of course it is only my opinion.
Sandy pushed to hard on the 61 mile day because she couldn't run 50 on the next two days. It is that simple.
What is simple is that she ran 57+ 2 days before, and 59+ miles 3 days before. What is your "expert conclusion" for that? Here are the distance and times from Strava since day 7.
Day 12: 33.4 mi, 9:28:24
Day 11: 44.0 mi, 9:56:36
Day 10: 61.0 mi, 13:29:11
Day 9: 53.0 mi, 11:04:26
Day 8: 57.2 mi, 13:31:21
Day 7: 59.5 mi, 13:05:14
hmmm...wait, what? wrote:
(1) sponsor the group of folks to go track down Mimi to shadow her until she is exposed and drops (that is, if she actually is cheating);
Someone figure out when she gets to Illinois so Laz and the Geezers can get boots on the ground.
14 hours wrote:
What is simple is that she ran 57+ 2 days before, and 59+ miles 3 days before. What is your "expert conclusion" for that? Here are the distance and times from Strava since day 7.
Day 12: 33.4 mi, 9:28:24
Day 11: 44.0 mi, 9:56:36
Day 10: 61.0 mi, 13:29:11
Day 9: 53.0 mi, 11:04:26
Day 8: 57.2 mi, 13:31:21
Day 7: 59.5 mi, 13:05:14
Looks like she can't run steady days. Lots of ups and down.
You guys are so obsessed with her almost 60 mile days but that does not matter if you have 30 mile days afterwards.
Sandy ran 55 miles today. Her target is .... 55 miles per day.
Mimi is the one who seemed to be trying for 100 km per day.