the amazing and sad thing is that in a year most trumpers will have been brainwashed to think this whole episode is an example of media lying about trumpers.
Like they think the russia-trump connections were a hoax.
Trumpers are beyond help. Lost to the republic. Subjects of King Spanky rather than citizens of a republic.
So you essentially agree with me on fire fighters, except that I contend that they’re glad to have intervened and limited the loss of life and property, while you’re focused on enjoying the mechanics of being on the frontline. I question how enjoyable it is to be trying to get people in danger out of a building that’s in danger of collapse. It’s harrowing and sobering and one of the most honorable things another person can do, to put their life on the line for strangers. I just question that, after such stakes, that should they get home safely and think, “that was an enjoyable day at work.” Being proud of what you did during dangerous circumstances isn’t necessarily the same as enjoying the process.
On generals and wars: field commissions and advancement in a state of war certainly exist. But most in positions of leadership want to avoid risking the lives of their fellow men and women in uniform, if at all possible, and certainly not have their own career progress at the forefront of their decision making process. You wouldn’t want that, would you?
The firefighter analogy was idiotic.
Firefighters enjoy fighting fires. It's fun.
Soldiers enjoy war when it's going well.
Generals are always in complete safety so they always enjoy it.
You clearly learned all you think you know about war from books and television.
The founders were much much much smarter than you and they understood why it was necessary to have civilian control of the military. O-10s think every problem has a military answer.
Mattis's behavior on Syria proves that the generals have absolutely no business being involved with policy decisions.
“Enjoy it when it’s going well”
You don’t say? Who would have ever come up with that assessment.
Trumpers are beyond help. Lost to the republic. Subjects of King Spanky rather than citizens of a republic.
Unfortunately, I think it has to do more with where folks get their news, and what's being posted on social media. Cable news and social media are toxic cesspools. It's the same for both sides of the aisle.
the amazing and sad thing is that in a year most trumpers will have been brainwashed to think this whole episode is an example of media lying about trumpers.
Like they think the russia-trump connections were a hoax.
Trumpers are beyond help. Lost to the republic. Subjects of King Spanky rather than citizens of a republic.
Change the date of this story to 2023 and change the principles to Lloyd Austin, Kamala Harris, Avril Haines and Jen O’Malley Dillon and keep all other facts the same and please tell me how the Trump supporters would dismiss this embarrassment as being nothing of substance.
Solid summary of signalgate. With a detail I was not aware of, about blowing the cover of a covert CIA officer. Who no doubt has been pulled from the field already. Way to go, Trumpers. Firings and courts martial would be appropriate. Please proceed.
In the chat, they discussed policy concerns about the campaign, slagged the European allies, shared what experts say are by definition classified battle plans, which included "precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing" and even mentioned the name of a covert CIA officer. Goldberg published an article about it on Monday, complete with screenshots of the chat, although he did not publish the classified information or the name of the CIA officer.
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Solid summary of signalgate. With a detail I was not aware of, about blowing the cover of a covert CIA officer. Who no doubt has been pulled from the field already. Way to go, Trumpers. Firings and courts martial would be appropriate. Please proceed.
In the chat, they discussed policy concerns about the campaign, slagged the European allies, shared what experts say are by definition classified battle plans, which included "precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing" and even mentioned the name of a covert CIA officer. Goldberg published an article about it on Monday, complete with screenshots of the chat, although he did not publish the classified information or the name of the CIA officer.
And one of the attendees was in Moscow to keep them in the know per Trump's undocumented orders on Signal so that Putin has direct access to Trump's military plans.
I wonder how the Trumpers will cope with how little their leaders seem to think of their intelligence. We were told yesterday that this was all a hoax, that Goldberg lied, that no war plans were discussed, that no specifics or weapons systems were disucssed. All lies.
Will they now admit their situation? Or will they find a way to keep digging their hole deeper. Of course it will be the latter. You'll never lose money betting on Republicans finding a way to lower the bar.
The White House Press Secretary has responded: they have chosen to keep digging!
According to Down Syndrome Barbie, a schedule of military operations that includes the types of weapons systems being used and specific times at which they will be deployed is NOT a "war plan"; it is an "attack plan" which is somehiw totally different and, apparently, not sensitive information at all.
So, to summarize:
1. Using a compromised comms platform to evade FOIA is not a crime.
2. Discussing specific military "attack plans" on said compromised platform is not a crime.
3. Adding a civilian to a top secret group chat was a small mistake that "just happens sometimes."
4. Bombing civilians is awesome as long as you get at least one confirmed terrorist kill.
I wonder how the Trumpers will cope with how little their leaders seem to think of their intelligence. We were told yesterday that this was all a hoax, that Goldberg lied, that no war plans were discussed, that no specifics or weapons systems were disucssed. All lies.
Will they now admit their situation? Or will they find a way to keep digging their hole deeper. Of course it will be the latter. You'll never lose money betting on Republicans finding a way to lower the bar.
The White House Press Secretary has responded: they have chosen to keep digging!
According to Down Syndrome Barbie, a schedule of military operations that includes the types of weapons systems being used and specific times at which they will be deployed is NOT a "war plan"; it is an "attack plan" which is somehiw totally different and, apparently, not sensitive information at all.
So, to summarize:
1. Using a compromised comms platform to evade FOIA is not a crime.
2. Discussing specific military "attack plans" on said compromised platform is not a crime.
3. Adding a civilian to a top secret group chat was a small mistake that "just happens sometimes."
4. Bombing civilians is awesome as long as you get at least one confirmed terrorist kill.
It was a small mistake - nothing happened from it.
Solid summary of signalgate. With a detail I was not aware of, about blowing the cover of a covert CIA officer. Who no doubt has been pulled from the field already. Way to go, Trumpers. Firings and courts martial would be appropriate. Please proceed.
In the chat, they discussed policy concerns about the campaign, slagged the European allies, shared what experts say are by definition classified battle plans, which included "precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing" and even mentioned the name of a covert CIA officer. Goldberg published an article about it on Monday, complete with screenshots of the chat, although he did not publish the classified information or the name of the CIA officer.
The summary is that Goldberg lied as he always does.
There was no war plan. There were no names. There were no specific targets. There were no specific locations. There were no coordinates.
The cia agents you idiots are claiming got outed was Ratcliffe's chief of staff not a covert agent.
The White House Press Secretary has responded: they have chosen to keep digging!
According to Down Syndrome Barbie, a schedule of military operations that includes the types of weapons systems being used and specific times at which they will be deployed is NOT a "war plan"; it is an "attack plan" which is somehiw totally different and, apparently, not sensitive information at all.
So, to summarize:
1. Using a compromised comms platform to evade FOIA is not a crime.
2. Discussing specific military "attack plans" on said compromised platform is not a crime.
3. Adding a civilian to a top secret group chat was a small mistake that "just happens sometimes."
4. Bombing civilians is awesome as long as you get at least one confirmed terrorist kill.
Until a few days ago Trump was relying on Alina Habba as counsel. Not sure who's filled her shoes.
Solid summary of signalgate. With a detail I was not aware of, about blowing the cover of a covert CIA officer. Who no doubt has been pulled from the field already. Way to go, Trumpers. Firings and courts martial would be appropriate. Please proceed.
In the chat, they discussed policy concerns about the campaign, slagged the European allies, shared what experts say are by definition classified battle plans, which included "precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing" and even mentioned the name of a covert CIA officer. Goldberg published an article about it on Monday, complete with screenshots of the chat, although he did not publish the classified information or the name of the CIA officer.
The summary is that Goldberg lied as he always does.
There was no war plan. There were no names. There were no specific targets. There were no specific locations. There were no coordinates.
The cia agents you idiots are claiming got outed was Ratcliffe's chief of staff not a covert agent.
(putting aside your character assassination of a journalist for no reason other than your feels and your need to serve royalty....)
so you think the pentagon would have been fine with the NYT publishing all these details the day before the attack?
It was indeed an accident that the information was sent to the Atlantic. Gabbard meant for it to be sent to the Houthis, because she thinks they were on the Americans' side.
the amazing and sad thing is that in a year most trumpers will have been brainwashed to think this whole episode is an example of media lying about trumpers.
Like they think the russia-trump connections were a hoax.
Trumpers are beyond help. Lost to the republic. Subjects of King Spanky rather than citizens of a republic.
Most of you LIBT@RDS are too dumb to understand the nuanced different between war plans and attack plans. These were clearly attack plans dumb@ss!
Is “their top missile guy” not specific enough for you?
That detail was not mentioned until AFTER the strike.
You remain a moron.
What does that have to do with Gabbard’s lie to Congress? She didn’t claim “targets weren’t discussed before the strike” she said “I don’t recall any mention of specific targets”.
It was indeed an accident that the information was sent to the Atlantic. Gabbard meant for it to be sent to the Houthis, because she thinks they were on the Americans' side.
For the non imbeciles in the room Gabbards' position that you idiots are basing your current ignorant opinions about her on was that Assad was a monster but he's a better option than the terrorists that would replace him in Syria.
And she's been proven 100% correct as Al Quaeda is now running Syria and babies are being clubbed to death in their cribs for not being muslim...
Everything you're told is propaganda and all of your opinions are idiotic.
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