My daughter is competing against two boys this weekend in California 1600 State Championships

Ve must purify the competition Ja?!

Then vote with your feet and move to a red state like myself and many others. With so many conservatives moving it is only going to get worse. And when you do leave do not vote for Democrats and bring the insanity here.

Last year, people were afraid to say anything. As it came out of the White House - "Trans rights are human rights". The Lia Thomas win changed everything. An average male athlete who changes gender has good chance of dominating female sports.

Typical liberal media blame it on those who know the difference between a male and female.

latimes.com

CIF denounces 'harassing behaviors' that led to transgender athletes withdrawing from track finals

https://www.latimes.com/people/luca-evans

The sanctioning body for high school sports in California denounces 'harassing behaviors' that led to two transgender athletes withdrawing from track finals.

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Amongst children and adolescents who identify as trans, rates of suicide are actually very low. Thankfully.

The one sub-group of trans-identified people with rates of suicide that are exceptionally and alarmingly high are adults who've undergone and exhausted all the "medical transition" interventions available to them, including genital surgeries that involve removal of their gonads. In this group, high rates of suicides has been shown, with the most dramtic rise in suicide attempts and suicides starting 7-10 years after their last surgery.

Spreading the myth that all "transgender people have an extremely high risk of suicide" is a disservice. The constant repetition of myths about high risks of suicide actually cause a great deal of harm to the mental health of youngsters who identify as trans, including ones like the two CA runners who were no-shows yesterday.

Myths about suicide risks in youngsters with trans, non-binary and other novel gender identities are also used to induce guilt, cause alarm, shut down inquiry, induce silence, quell pushback and force compliance with these youngsters' often unreasonable requests amongst their families, friends, school mates, teachers, doctors, coaches, team mates, etc. This makes it more difficult for people who genuinely care about trans-identified youth like these two runners in CA to respond to them and their difficulties in ways that will truly help and benefit them both in the moment and over the long term.

You know who else scratched? Adeline Johnson. Why was that? Maybe it was because she was dragged into a controversy against her will and made out by ICONS and Fox News to be the avatar of the anti trans crowd. That was disgraceful. So not only did all the disgusting behavior of adults heckling minors scare away Athena and Lorelei, it ruined Johnson’s state meet too. Congratulations, job well done. Nothing useful has been accomplished except three kids are damaged by all of this. CIF is as determined as ever to NOT change the rules and there remains large numbers of trans inclusive feminists (yes, did you realize there are many) no more persuaded today than yesterday about the merits of any trans exclusion arguments.

You are delusional.

Confused liberals don't realize.that this "wedge issue" is critical to the Marxist playbook of "demoralization" of the population overall in order to exert totalitarian power. "Those that accept absurdities will commit atrocities". Mutilation of children's genitals in a corrupt medical/social system is one of those atrocities.

The California educational system is steeped in this Critical Theory overthrow of democratic sytems.

The San Francisco Chronicle has published several articles playing the misplaced blame game too.

The article below published yesterday starts out mischaracterizing what's going on by calling the two male athletes "female runners" in the very first sentence. In the second, it says "the science is far from clear" as to whether males who identify as girls "are actually faster or stronger" than females who actually are girls "experts say."

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Attacks on trans athletes have little basis in science

Two female runners competing in a state high school championship this weekend have come under attack because people believe they are transgender and therefore may have an unfair advantage. But the science is far from clear as...

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The only "experts" quoted and cited in the article are trans activists whose aim is the forced "inclusion" of males in the female category.

The only "science" mentioned are two (2) papers by trans-identified male runner and radiologist Joanna Harper, now doing work at Lougborough University in the UK trying to come with evidence to justify male intrusion into female sports.

One is a paper Harper published in 2021 whose findings the SF Chronicle misrepresents. The other is Harper's paper published in 2015 about Harper's widely-debunked and frankly laughable "study" of course/race times self-reported by Harper and 7 other trans-identified adult male distance runners before and after they "transitioned" in adulthood. All but one of the male runners self-reported that they ran slower after reducing their testosterone and taking estrogen - though the gap between their "before" and "after" times compared was usually at least several years, and in one case was 27 years.

One runner in Harper's "study" self-reported getting faster after "transition." But Harper decided to drop/eliminate that runner's results so that when coming up with the paper's final conclusions, Harper did not factor them in. Which just goes to show how insincere all the sob-story blather about "diversity and inclusion" is.

From that LA Times article “The CIF strongly denounces discriminatory or harassing behaviors that impact our student-athletes’ opportunities to participate in interscholastic competitions.”

Seriously? The CIF is harassing and discriminating against high school girls by trying to force males into girl's competitions, then falsely accusing anyone who stands up for the girls in a feeble attempt to justify their discriminatory and harassing behaviors.

Are you going to show the studies you think prove this? Because I know at least one study that anti-trans types like yourself love to use to claim it, but that shows nothing of the sort.

Looks like we found the solution to the problem. More protests, more signs at meets promoting women's rights, etc. I'm fine with these two not competing and I hope more continue to follow this pattern. Non-violent protest is the order of the day.

“It’s pathetic,” Max Engelhardt, Sadie’s father, said of the tripping calls Friday. A parent, he said, had tried after the race to enlist he and his wife, Shannon, to protest the final result: a third-place finish for Barrett. “What I saw this week was pretty ugly.”

when Chat GPT is asked whether the female winner of 100m at Olympics could run faster than the male winner, that’s what we get

“However, it's important to note that the specific athletes participating and their respective performance levels can vary widely from year to year. There may be instances where an exceptionally talented female sprinter achieves a faster time than the male winner in a particular Olympic race. Each race should be evaluated on its own merits and specific conditions.”

…so it does not look conclusive

lol. Chat GPT is so woke.

Sure I'll show studies if you want. Here's one:

link.springer.com

Suicide by Clinic-Referred Transgender Adolescents in the United Kingdom - Archives of Sexual Behavior

Archives of Sexual Behavior -

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As to you calling me an "anti-trans type" - I'm a pluralist who believes people of all kinds, walks of life, identities etc should be treated fairly and decently. I want everyone - even those very different to me and whose views I strongly disagree with - to be able to exercise their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in safety and security without unjust discrimination, bullying, cruelty or any kind of mistreatment.

But my focus in convos about "trans" and the gender identity movement in general is finding ways for society to be fair to, and accepting of, all whilst not compromising or rolling back the hard-won rights of women and girls (the female kind) that generations of women had to fight tooth and nail for; keeping in place and strengthening protective measures that provide safeguarding for children, girls and women, and other vulnerable people; advancing LGB rights and acceptance; not compromisng anyone's free speech rights; and not being bullied or browbeaten into going along with the unscientific, reality-denying, sexist and misogynistic dogma the gender identity movement is built on and peddles.

BTW, I probably personally know or have known more people who identify as trans, or did in the past, than anyone else on this thread. Which is why I know there is no unanimity amongst them on this and other issues, just as there is diversity of thought amongst "the LGB," Democratic Party voters, Labour (UK) members, lefties, liberals and so on.