Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Forgotten Man wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

At this point, there are only two reasons for any American to continue to support Donald Trump:

1) Flat out racist.

2) Ignorant almost beyond measure.

Forgotten men and women of America support him because he has made American great again.

Those who oppose him do not want America to be great.

Even that support is shrinking:

Reminds me of an interview with a Republican political strategist (don't remember who) that I heard on the radio just after the 2016 election. He was asked whether the Republican Party had a problem with African-American voters. His answer was:

"When 92% of African-American voters vote for the Democrat, and the Republican nominee has been endorsed by the KKK, yes, the Republican Party has a problem with African -American voters."

PIO! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Don't misunderstand me. I am NOT pinning the deaths of these American heroes on Trump. I AM showing though that when he said ISIS was defeated that it is clear it was not. Just one more example of how we can't believe a word this man says.

The point about Lindsey is not supporting a pin this on Trump thing (as I am NOT doing that). Just making clear that even someone who has greatly supported Trump of late was against his saying that ISIS was defeated.

I am NEVER desperate.

I see. My apologies for misunderstanding the points you were trying to make.

That is a good and fair way of putting it, and the apologies are all mine. I should have realized that what I wrote could and likely would be interpreted not as I intended, and for that I apologize unreservedly.

johnny99 wrote:

Fiagpole wrote:

Obama said ISIS was defeated. You are the incompetent one. Stop the bias, it's really embarrassing buckeye.

I haven't looked up the quotes, if you have post a link. But what I think Obama did was call ISIS the junior varsity. Not a smart thing to do, but much different than saying that ISIS was defeated.

Obama DID call ISIS the "junior varsity". This was a BAD move on his part, and it just shows that I am more than willing to criticize Obama and any other Democrat when it is deserved, and here it is deserved. A failure on his part to see the bigger picture there. Part of the reason Islamic extremists are so mad at the US is that they believe we are arrogant (not the only reason, but it is one of the big reasons). Very arrogant and dismissive to say something like that. Turns out he was wrong too.

johnny99 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Now we have some American soldiers killed by ISIS. Trump said ISIS was defeated. Lindsey Graham says that comment emboldened ISIS.

So, this just shows his incompetence. On top of all the lying and all the criminality, he is also incompetent. Just insane that he has any support among the people at all.

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.” - Trump, 11/13/15

“[The generals] don’t know much because they’re not winning.” - Trump, 6/5/16

"We've won against ISIS," Trump said in a short video posted on Twitter. "We've beaten them and we've beaten them badly. We've taken back the land. And now it's time for our troops to come back home." - Trump, 12/19/18

Today:

https://www.axios.com/american-troops-dead-isis-explosion-syria-f91ef12f-08b8-43aa-8324-7551e16f65ef.html

Yep...he sucks. He's an imbecile, and he reportedly (and obviously) doesn't take advice from any of his advisers or staff. That is bad enough, and if that were it, I would shake my head in disbelief, but when you pile on the fact that he lies to our faces about all things big and small pretty much all the time and then the fact that he's a criminal of epic proportions, his imbecilic behavior takes a back seat to all that.

Fat hurts wrote:

non flagpole wrote:

Influence the election? LOL! Only people like you would be influenced by a facebook ad!

Last year, companies spent over $33 billion on Facebook ads. The companies that buy these ads know a lot more about advertising than you.

Yes, Facebook ads influence people.

The Russian ads were micro-targeted using stolen Facebook data. And apparently, the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to also give them internal polling data. All this was a conspiracy against the United States to help Russia put a puppet in the White House.

Now that collusion has been shown (will be nailed down HARD ultimately), Trumpers like this dude have to say the cheating had no bearing on the outcome. We can never know for sure, but that isn't the measure. It is the CHEATING that matters, not if the cheating had an impact. When Ben Johnson was caught using steroids, no one questioned whether they helped him or not. The very act of cheating was the crime and was punishable. Same here. Collusion has been shown by the Trump campaign. The only question is how deep it went and how much of it Trump knew about. I have already been proven right about the 2016 election (for cheaters can not be winners), but I will save the official declaration of that for after the Mueller report comes out.

Anyone who believe the cheating just involved some Facebook ads (and that wasn't insignificant anyway) doesn't know enough about the situation to be making comments among adults.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

This is a really good article about "fake news". Trump can whine about fake news all he wants, the reality is that Clinton was more a target of fake news than Trump and fake news was, on balance, a real boost to Trump. One of the great points made in this article is that Trump supporters are more gullible than Clinton supporters and, therefore, someone who was just trying to make some money off of fake news would get more internet clicks by attacking Clinton instead of Trump.

By his account, though he voted for Mr. Trump, his early preference had been for Senator Marco Rubio. Mr. Harris said he would have been willing to promote Mrs. Clinton and smear Mr. Trump had those tactics been lucrative. But as other seekers of clicks discovered, Mr. Trump’s supporters were far more fervent than Mrs. Clinton’s.

And fake news being put out by Trump supporters, and being believed by Trump supporters, continues to today:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/clemson-qb-trevor-lawrence-calls-out-fake-twitter-quote-praising-fast-food-at-white-house/ar-BBSilUh?li=BBnb7Kz

Fat hurts wrote:

No surprise at all wrote:

Coming as no surprise at all. Senate Republicans are in Putin's pocket.

"It sends the wrong message to Russia and to the oligarch -- a close ally of Mr. Putin, Oleg Deripaska -- who will in my judgment continue to maintain considerable control under the Treasury's plan," Sen. Susan Collins R] of Maine, one of the Republicans who voted with Democrats.

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/senate-democrats-sanctions-russia/index.html

Now they can end the shutdown. The distraction has done its job.

Da, Comrade. Da.

The Yellow Vest Movement in France helps explain the popularity of Trump and why this will not just go away.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/11/the-gilets-jaunes-are-unstoppable/

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

spiked-online com

The editor of your source is Mick Hume. Who is he?

Mick Hume is a journalist and erstwhile organiser of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Editor of Living Marxism, columnist for The Times (London) and now editor of Spiked online.

He was also the editor of LM Magazine—Living Marxism—, the journal of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Typical, instead of educating yourself you continue your personal delusion.

That is why you are continually wrong.

Enjoy your obsession.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Typical, instead of educating yourself you continue your personal delusion.

That is why you are continually wrong.

Enjoy your obsession.

The editor of your news source, Mick Hume, is someone you need to educate yourself about.

Hume has not the sense of duty to his readers or what passes for his intellect to deal with the power of the moneyed elite Donald Trump so conspicuously represents. Instead he flags himself as open to offers from the BBC and rightwing press by telling us that it is the beaten opponents of Trump and of Brexit who are the real elite, whose anti-democratic illegitimacy must be exposed and denounced.

"Now that collusion has been shown..." Wow, do you have new evidence that Mueller has not discovered yet? You call me dumb, but you are magnitudes worse; you are absolutely INSANE.

No, Trump did not call on the Russians to hack Hillary's emails and no, the GOP did not soften its platform on the Ukraine to please the Russians. And get this through your TDS infected brain, your girl was an absolute disaster during the campaign, she took days off, her rallies couldn't fill up high school gyms, she passed on visiting a few state because she was convinced that she had them locked up. She lost fair and square. And when Mueller finds no evidence of Russian collusion, you will proclaim on LR that you were completely wrong.

Prepare yourself for bigly disappointment. There will be no bombshells in the Mueller Report. Your day of reckoning is coming. You will go down as the biggest clown and laughingstock in LR history. I WILL deliver with the biggest "I told you so." Not you.

More than ever, it will be:

Flagpolian Flops galore

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Ah, OK make up your phony reasons not to read an interview with Christophe Gillouy. Actually interesting and something you should read.

But you won’t and that is why you will continue to misread the world around you.

It is OK, most people don’t want to see the error of their thinking.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

No, Trump did not call on the Russians to hack Hillary's emails

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said at the 2016 news conference, referring to emails Clinton had deleted from her private account.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

The Yellow Vest Movement in France helps explain the popularity of Trump and why this will not just go away.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/11/the-gilets-jaunes-are-unstoppable/

Read it.

Meh

BigTimeRetiredCoach wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

No, Trump did not call on the Russians to hack Hillary's emails

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said at the 2016 news conference, referring to emails Clinton had deleted from her private account.

Destroying emails, and other documents, is an common practice at Trump Org when the documents are demanded as part of a criminal investigation, and in defiance of court orders.

1) Trump Tower meeting is collusion. Manafort dealing with Russians regarding Trump polling data is collusion. And that's just what we know.

2) "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said at the 2016 news conference, referring to emails Clinton had deleted from her private account.

3) Hillary is not "my girl". Hillary is not the President. Nothing Hillary has ever done or not done has anything whatsoever to do with Trump.

4) Whether Hillary lost the election "fair and square" has no bearing on the cheating that Trump did and the criminal that he is. We will never know if Hillary won "fair and square", so you sure can't declare it now. What we DO know already is that his staff colluded with Russia to win the election which makes me right about the 2016 election. If you want to wait until there are charges to accept that, then fine, but it is a certainty. Don Jr., Kushner, and Manafort will spend time in prison over it. Trump may be pardoned on federal charges, but he will not escape the state charges (sent to them by Mueller's office). He will be imprisoned.

There will be some charges that none of us have considered, but I agree with you no bombshells as they have to be surprises to be so.

Likely charges (bold ones for sure):

Conspiracy to defraud the United States

Obstruction of justice

Emoluments clause violation

FELONY campaign finance violation (two of those that we know of)

Bank fraud and/or wire fraud

Computer fraud

Wiretap act violation

Conspiracy to Commit Trespass to Chattels

You focus on the wrong things. Trump is a criminal President. Hillary is yesterday's news.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.