Daddy's money wrote:
Here are some of Trump's bigly solutions for workers he refuses to pay:
– Ask their fathers for money!
– Coast Guard workers can have garage sales!
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/pelosi-said-trump-thinks-federal-workers-can-ask-fathers-money-meanwhile-coast-guard-told-garage-sales/
Did Tiny actually say that they can ask their fathers for money?
Pelosi said Tiny thinks that, but is there any evidence that he actually said it?
agip wrote:
trump is so used being the CEO of a family business in which only he has any real power - he has no idea how to deal with people who have equal power. Like Congress.
This is why we need to elect experienced politicians, who know how to keep the ship moving.
I see you refuse to answer how we get to 11 million and how Ann is wrong, good job!
And btw, more fact checking...
Fun facts.
The government has been shut down 18 times since 1976 for a total of 125 days, excluding Trump’s shutdown.
The Dems are responsible for 98 of those days compared to 27 for the Republicans.
And the 3 longest shutdowns belong to Dems - Clinton, Obama & Carter.
But yeah, it is Trump.....
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
trump is so used being the CEO of a family business in which only he has any real power - he has no idea how to deal with people who have equal power. Like Congress.
This is why we need to elect experienced politicians, who know how to keep the ship moving.
I see you refuse to answer how we get to 11 million and how Ann is wrong, good job!
And btw, more fact checking...
Fun facts.
The government has been shut down 18 times since 1976 for a total of 125 days, excluding Trump’s shutdown.
The Dems are responsible for 98 of those days compared to 27 for the Republicans.
And the 3 longest shutdowns belong to Dems - Clinton, Obama & Carter.
But yeah, it is Trump.....
The responsible party for a shutdown is always in dispute. So your 98 to 27 stat is bogus.
But I'm glad you agree that this shutdown is Trump's fault.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
trump is so used being the CEO of a family business in which only he has any real power - he has no idea how to deal with people who have equal power. Like Congress.
This is why we need to elect experienced politicians, who know how to keep the ship moving.
I see you refuse to answer how we get to 11 million and how Ann is wrong, good job!
And btw, more fact checking...
Fun facts.
The government has been shut down 18 times since 1976 for a total of 125 days, excluding Trump’s shutdown.
The Dems are responsible for 98 of those days compared to 27 for the Republicans.
And the 3 longest shutdowns belong to Dems - Clinton, Obama & Carter.
But yeah, it is Trump.....
what's happening here is different - it's as if Obama shut down the government until he got funding for obamacare.
it's nutso - totally inappropriate.
if the president wants to spend money on something he has to get it through congress. Congress has the purse strings.
the president is a freaking child.
Fat hurts wrote:
Daddy's money wrote:
Here are some of Trump's bigly solutions for workers he refuses to pay:
– Ask their fathers for money!
– Coast Guard workers can have garage sales!
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/pelosi-said-trump-thinks-federal-workers-can-ask-fathers-money-meanwhile-coast-guard-told-garage-sales/Did Tiny actually say that they can ask their fathers for money?
Pelosi said Tiny thinks that, but is there any evidence that he actually said it?
Schumer then asked Trump, "Why won't you open the government and stop hurting people?"
Trump responded bluntly, "Because then you won't give me what I want."
lol
Let them eat cake!
agip wrote:
asian r reallly hot wrote:
I see you refuse to answer how we get to 11 million and how Ann is wrong, good job!
And btw, more fact checking...
Fun facts.
The government has been shut down 18 times since 1976 for a total of 125 days, excluding Trump’s shutdown.
The Dems are responsible for 98 of those days compared to 27 for the Republicans.
And the 3 longest shutdowns belong to Dems - Clinton, Obama & Carter.
But yeah, it is Trump.....
what's happening here is different - it's as if Obama shut down the government until he got funding for obamacare.
it's nutso - totally inappropriate.
if the president wants to spend money on something he has to get it through congress. Congress has the purse strings.
the president is a freaking child.
I keep telling y'all that he has no choice. He isn't acting like a child, he's acting as someone who will lose his job if he doesn't get this.
Plus, Pelosi and Sherman are clowns too.
5 billion on the budget is nothing, but they want to play politics. Well so does Trump. Can't blame him and actually should be impressed that a politician is trying to live up go his campaign promises.
I don't understand why Coulter and Limbaugh are goading Trump into a battle he can't win. His message is pretty much, "because I said so" and he supports his request with tweets about walls around Obama's home and the Vatican, something about wheels and fear mongering. It would be negligent for Congress to approve a $5.7B expenditure based on the case he has made so far.
Any public owned business would require a study, including a cost/benefit analysis, to support a major expenditure.
Saying that Mexico will pay for it through the USMCA is ridiculous. The new trade agreement has nothing to do with any specific expenditure. It would be like me selling my house, buying a new car and saying that the buyer of my house paid for the car. I've also read articles that state that there aren't significant differences between NAFTA and USMCA.
Do they think Trump will look better if he fights it to the bitter end but, still doesn't get his wall?
asian r reallly hot wrote:
5 billion on the budget is nothing. . . .
A wall is a nothing. There is no reason to at all to spend $5 billion on a nothing.
$5B Nothing wrote:
asian r reallly hot wrote:
5 billion on the budget is nothing. . . .
A wall is a nothing. There is no reason to at all to spend $5 billion on a nothing.
Obviously not to Trump and half the country, so why not give it to them. It's such a small amount on d budget but they are playing politics.
It's stupid the dems don't give it to him. Guess what, if the wall fails, it's only 5 billion on a trillion dollar budget, freaking hell.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I don't understand why Coulter and Limbaugh are goading Trump into a battle he can't win. His message is pretty much, "because I said so" and he supports his request with tweets about walls around Obama's home and the Vatican, something about wheels and fear mongering. It would be negligent for Congress to approve a $5.7B expenditure based on the case he has made so far.
Any public owned business would require a study, including a cost/benefit analysis, to support a major expenditure.
Saying that Mexico will pay for it through the USMCA is ridiculous. The new trade agreement has nothing to do with any specific expenditure. It would be like me selling my house, buying a new car and saying that the buyer of my house paid for the car. I've also read articles that state that there aren't significant differences between NAFTA and USMCA.
Do they think Trump will look better if he fights it to the bitter end but, still doesn't get his wall?
Coulter is right that he won't have a job if he doesn't get this wall.
And your analogy is false.
It's more like, I took over selling your house and saved you 40 grand than what you were selling it for and then bought a car with it. Which is smart and proves he was able to get Mexico to pay for it after redoing a shitty deal for the US.
My mom has a piece of the Berlin Wall, they chopped it into 5 billion bits for souvenirs. Brilliant!
jesseriley wrote:
My mom has a piece of the Berlin Wall, they chopped it into 5 billion bits for souvenirs. Brilliant!
Nice, I have one too! Let's get together and compare!
Trump brought candy to the meeting! (Before leaving immediately.) When you’re depressed, a little sugar keeps you going.
Like in “The Birdcage” where the Senator starts gobbling candy as his career teeters on the brink!
It’s actually Melania who’s keeping trump from moving to Moscow. She’s from Eastern Europe, she knows what it’s like.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
$5B Nothing wrote:
A wall is a nothing. There is no reason to at all to spend $5 billion on a nothing.
Obviously not to Trump and half the country, so why not give it to them. It's such a small amount on d budget but they are playing politics.
It's stupid the dems don't give it to him. Guess what, if the wall fails, it's only 5 billion on a trillion dollar budget, freaking hell.
5 billion dollars is a LOT of money, no matter how you compare it to the overall budget. It's a LOT of money.
So if he wanted 5 billion to put purple flags all over the interstates should we give him that too? The flags are just as useful as the wall.
Your argument is that every time the president wants to do something moronic we should just give in to make him shut up. That's no way to run a country.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
$5B Nothing wrote:
A wall is a nothing. There is no reason to at all to spend $5 billion on a nothing.
Obviously not to Trump and half the country, so why not give it to them.
Guess what? 25% [rabid Trumpers] is not half the country.
asian r reallly hot wrote:
agip wrote:
what's happening here is different - it's as if Obama shut down the government until he got funding for obamacare.
it's nutso - totally inappropriate.
if the president wants to spend money on something he has to get it through congress. Congress has the purse strings.
the president is a freaking child.
I keep telling y'all that he has no choice. He isn't acting like a child, he's acting as someone who will lose his job if he doesn't get this.
Plus, Pelosi and Sherman are clowns too.
5 billion on the budget is nothing, but they want to play politics. Well so does Trump. Can't blame him and actually should be impressed that a politician is trying to live up go his campaign promises.
When Trump began his campaign he didn't meet with some border security experts who recommended that a huge wall be built. Instead, his campaign brain trust believed, correctly, that promising a wall would play well with the voters he was targeting. I doubt if his team ever contemplated how difficult it could be to get it approved by Congress.
Him winning the election does not mean the wall makes sense. I am not impressed by him trying force approval of the wall without providing a rational argument. Honouring a half-baked campaign promise is not admirable.
Actually, 44% support the Wall (has been as low as 38% maybe lower).
But, 65% DO NOT want the government shutdown over it. So that’s 35% hardcore Trumpers.
Really, shutdowns don’t typically last long enough for the real effects to set in....missed paychecks, WIC, food stamps, subsidized housing, etc. I think I read that food stamps are funded through Feb or end of Feb. We are now reaching a point where paychecks and government benefits will be missed. The longer this goes the worse this is for the president.
Alan