Baby Trump has decided to not sign the stop gap bill to keep some parts of government open after Friday. Federal employees will not get paid. Congress cannot go home for vacation at the start of the holidays. Meanwhile, Trump is already on vacation, and the Secret Service is required to work to protect him without pay or any vacation. Of course, Trump Org is bilking the government (oops, "billing") top rates for use of Mar a Lago facilities while Trump plays golf.
Right about now is the time for Paul Ryan to take an impeachment vote.
Well it’s only a partial shutdown....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heres-what-shuts-down-in-a-government-shutdown/
Alan
L L wrote:
Right about now is the time for Paul Ryan to take an impeachment vote.
Trump is increasing the number of Republicans in the Senate who would vote to impeach him. The odds of impeachment are getting better and better, regardless of what Trumpers desperately want to believe.
20 votes wrote:
L L wrote:
Right about now is the time for Paul Ryan to take an impeachment vote.
Trump is increasing the number of Republicans in the Senate who would vote to impeach him. The odds of impeachment are getting better and better, regardless of what Trumpers desperately want to believe.
R's in the senate were also pretty mad about the Syria withdraw. Our baby president is throwing a tantrum.
But will senate Republicans actually grow a spine? I'm not hopeful.
So, tRump is so desperate to get money for his Wall of Ego, which he cries he needs to protect the U.S. from bad hombres, that he will stop funding the Department of Homeland Security which happens to include ICE. The result being tRump is creating open borders. Okay . . . .
Runningart2004 wrote:
Well it’s only a partial shutdown....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heres-what-shuts-down-in-a-government-shutdown/Alan
down goes DHS wrote:
So, tRump is so desperate to get money for his Wall of Ego, which he cries he needs to protect the U.S. from bad hombres, that he will stop funding the Department of Homeland Security which happens to include ICE. The result being tRump is creating open borders. Okay . . . .
Runningart2004 wrote:
Well it’s only a partial shutdown....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heres-what-shuts-down-in-a-government-shutdown/Alan
Essential employees will still work.
With ninety percent of their personnel considered essential, the Department of Homeland Security will be hit the hardest. Nearly 54,000 Customs and Border Protection agents and 42,000 Coast Guard employees are projected to work without pay, and as travelers flood the nation’s airports and train stations, 53,000 T.S.A. agents will keep working, as will air traffic controllers and aviation and railroad safety inspectors.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/government-shutdown.htmlGovernment employees who work the holidays get double time pay, plus their regular holiday pay. I am not sure what the pay structure agreement is for people working for ICE, so maybe they only get regular straight time pay and no holiday pay or overtime.
Runningart2004 wrote:
down goes DHS wrote:
So, tRump is so desperate to get money for his Wall of Ego, which he cries he needs to protect the U.S. from bad hombres, that he will stop funding the Department of Homeland Security which happens to include ICE. The result being tRump is creating open borders. Okay . . . .
Essential employees will still work.
With ninety percent of their personnel considered essential, the Department of Homeland Security will be hit the hardest. Nearly 54,000 Customs and Border Protection agents and 42,000 Coast Guard employees are projected to work without pay, and as travelers flood the nation’s airports and train stations, 53,000 T.S.A. agents will keep working, as will air traffic controllers and aviation and railroad safety inspectors.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/government-shutdown.html
XY wrote:
RCP has him at 42.4 approval today. Not looking good.
My bad. It's 48.4. He's actually looking better than even I thought.
Racket wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
We didn’t really care about the Taliban controlling Afghanistan until they let Bin Laden and Al-Queda set up shop and carry out their attacks, We have a very long history of supporting dictators and strong arms so long as it is beneficial to our foreign policy goals.
You are also wrong. Pre-2001 the Taliban controlled Kabul. They no longer control Kabul. Afghanistan is really just an assortment of factions anyway with a “president”in Kabul. The Taliban, the warlords, never went away.
Alan
Point is it's getting worse. Can't find the WSJ article but here's a CNN one. Let me know what you think because I think it's hopeless to stay there
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/middleeast/afghanistan-report-taliban-gains-control-intl/index.html
CNN, wow...wanna see my shocked face?
So what’s the end game here? There will be no funding for a wall. There probably won’t even be greater funding for border security and improvements since last years money is sitting barely spent.
We are going to see the largest government shutdown in history. I’m guessing we won’t see Trump cave until Feb or March.
Alan
PIO! wrote:
Racket wrote:
Point is it's getting worse. Can't find the WSJ article but here's a CNN one. Let me know what you think because I think it's hopeless to stay there
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/middleeast/afghanistan-report-taliban-gains-control-intl/index.htmlCNN, wow...wanna see my shocked face?
We’re still in Kuwait, Korea, Japan, Germany, etc. Right now Iraq and Afghanistan is all about training their military forces and that job will never stop. The Army now has Security Force Assistance Brigades whose sole purpose is to deploy and train other armies. It’s in our best interest to train other nations how to fight....largely so we can sell them arms, and partially so we can easily defeat them if they turn sour.
We will always have a couple thousand soldiers in these places.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
I’m guessing we won’t see Trump cave until Feb or March.
Alan
What if he is under impeachment during that time?
It would be strange to need his signature while trying to get him expelled.
XY wrote:
XY wrote:
RCP has him at 42.4 approval today. Not looking good.
My bad. It's 48.4. He's actually looking better than even I thought.
Nope, RCP has donald at 42.4 approval. Proven outlier Rasmussen has him at a silly 48.
It’s still not looking good.
Lowest character POTUS of all time!!
Runningart2004 wrote:
So what’s the end game here? There will be no funding for a wall. There probably won’t even be greater funding for border security and improvements since last years money is sitting barely spent.
We are going to see the largest government shutdown in history. I’m guessing we won’t see Trump cave until Feb or March.
Alan
There is no end game. This is all just theatrics, which is the only thing Tiny knows how to do.
I don't even want to guess when he might cave. It will be when he has an opportunity to save face with the base. That day might never come on this shutdown fight.
I do see one way out though. Congress could repeal the stupid Antideficiency Act, which forces these shutdowns in the first place. Tiny's base might go for it because most of them don't like shutdowns and wouldn't realize what actually happened.
XY wrote:
XY wrote:
My bad. It's 48.4. He's actually looking better than even I thought.
Nope, RCP has donald at 42.4 approval. Proven outlier Rasmussen has him at a silly 48.
It’s still not looking good.
Lowest character POTUS of all time!!
Everyone knows RCP is the most politically skewed outlet there is
XY wrote:
XY wrote:
My bad. It's 48.4. He's actually looking better than even I thought.
Yep, RCP has donald at 48.4 approval. Even CNN has him at 48.2.
It’s still looking good.
Highest character for any President ever!!
Sorry, I mistyped. He won and he's our guy, let's all grow a pair and stand with him.
PIO! wrote:
XY wrote:
Nope, RCP has donald at 42.4 approval. Proven outlier Rasmussen has him at a silly 48.
It’s still not looking good.
Lowest character POTUS of all time!!
Everyone knows RCP is the most politically skewed outlet there is
President Trump is doing a fine job. There's simply a witch hunt going on with all of the sour pusses who voted HRC and lost.
PIO! wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Everyone knows RCP is the most politically skewed outlet there is
President Trump is doing a fine job. There's simply a witch hunt going on with all of the sour pusses who voted HRC and lost.
Agreed brother!