TruthforAmerica wrote:
some incredibly verbose drivel
Hey, Lying Gary! Come on, Lying Gary, you can to better than that regurgitated drivel.
Can't you?
TruthforAmerica wrote:
some incredibly verbose drivel
Hey, Lying Gary! Come on, Lying Gary, you can to better than that regurgitated drivel.
Can't you?
The throes of death of the GOP continue. Oh, the agony.
Kansas GOPers Dinah Sykes and Stephanie Clayton flip to Democrat because far-right takeover is getting worse
TruthforAmerica wrote:
From that lefty rag The Nation, no less. Wake up libs.
The new Cold War is not a mere replica of its 40-year predecessor, which the world survived. In vital ways, it is more dangerous, more fraught with actual war, as illustrated by events in 2018, among them:
The militarization of the new Cold War intensified, with direct or proxy US-Russian military confrontations in the Baltic region, Ukraine, and Syria; the onset of another nuclear arms race with both sides in quest of more “usable” weapons; mounting, but entirely unsubstantiated, claims by influential Cold War lobbies, such as the Atlantic Council, that Moscow is contemplating an invasion of Europe; and the growing influence of Moscow’s own “hawks.” The previous Cold War was also highly militarized, but never directly on Russia’s own borders, as is this one, from the small nations of Eastern Europe to Ukraine, a process that continued to unfold in 2018.
Russiagate—allegations that President Trump is strongly influenced by or even under the sway of the Kremlin, for which there remains no actual evidence—continued to escalate as a dangerous and unprecedented factor in the new Cold War. What began as suggestions that the Kremlin had “meddled” in the 2016 US presidential election grew into mainstream insinuations, even assertions, that the Kremlin put Trump in the White House. The result has been to all-but-shackle Trump as a crisis-negotiator with Russian President Putin. Thus, for attending a July summit meeting with Putin in Helsinki—during which Trump defended the legitimacy of his own presidency—he was widely denounced by mainstream US media and politicians as having committed “treason.” And twice subsequently Trump was compelled to cancel scheduled meetings with Putin. Americans may reasonably ask whether the politicians, journalists, and organizations that assail Trump for the same kind of summit diplomacy practiced by every president since Eisenhower actually prefer trying to impeach Trump to avoiding war with Russia.
The same question can be asked of major mainstream media outlets that have virtually abandoned the reasonably balanced and fact-based reporting and commentary they practiced during the latter stages of the preceding Cold War. In 2018, for example, their non-factual, surreal allegation that “Putin’s Russia attacked American democracy” in 2016 became an orthodox dogma and the pivot of their Russiagate and new Cold War narrative. Also unlike during the preceding Cold War, they continued to exclude dissenting, alternative reporting, perspectives, and opinions. Still more, these media outlets persist in relying heavily on former intelligence chiefs as sources and commentators, even though the role of these Intel officials in the origins of the Russiagate narrative now seems clear. A striking example of media malpractice was coverage of the maritime conflict between Ukrainian and Russian gunboats on November 25, in the Kerch straits between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea. All empirical evidence available, as well as Ukrainian President Poroshenko’s desperate need to bolster his chances for reelection in March 2019, strongly indicated that this was a deliberate provocation by Kiev. But the US mainstream media portrayed it instead as yet another instance of “Putin’s aggression.” Thus was a dangerous US-Russian proxy war fundamentally misrepresented to the American public.
In large part due to such media malpractice, and despite the escalating dangers in US-Russian relations, in 2018 there continued to be no significant anti–Cold War opposition anywhere in mainstream American political life—not in Congress, the major political parties, think tanks, or on college campuses, only a very few individual dissenters. Accordingly, the policy of détente with Russia, or what Trump has repeatedly called “cooperation with Russia,” still found no significant supporters in mainstream politics, even though it was the policy of other Republican presidents, notably Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan. Trump has tried, but he has been thwarted, repeatedly again in 2018.
Meanwhile, the charge that Russia “attacked American democracy” and continues to do so might best be applied to Russiagate promoters themselves. Their allegations have undermined the America presidency as an institution and cast doubt on US elections. By criminalizing both “contacts with Russia” and proposals for “better relations,” and by threatening to weed out a capacious and nebulous body of “disinformation” in US media, they have considerably diminished the vaunted American marketplace of free speech and ideas. Also under growing assault are traditional concepts of US political which, at least based on what is known in regard to Russia, have been abused in the cases of General Michael Flynn and, in Soviet-like fashion, of Maria Butina. At worst, this young Russian woman seems to have been an undeclared (but candidly open) advocate of “better relations” and an ardent proponent of her own country. For this, something long pursued by young Americans in Russia as well, she was held for months in solitary confinement until she confessed—that is, entered a plea. And this in a nation that has long officially “promoted” democracy abroad.
Finally, while US political and media elites remained obsessed with the fictions of Russiagate—which increasingly appears to be Russiagate without Russia and instead mostly tax-fraud-gate and sex-gate—post–Soviet Russia continued its remarkable rise as a diplomatic great power, primarily, though not only, in the East, as documented recently in three highly informed publications far from and scarcely noted by the US political-media establishment. Meanwhile, Washington’s primary base of allies in world affairs, the European Union, continued its slide into self-inflicted, ever deepening crisis.
I'm not interested in reading something you pasted from the internet.
Please post your own thoughts and opinions.
Fat hurts wrote:
TruthforAmerica wrote:
some incredibly verbose drivel
I'm not interested in reading something you pasted from the internet.
Please post your own thoughts and opinions.
Lying Gary doesn't have thoughts. He has regurgitations.
Fat hurts wrote:
TruthforAmerica wrote:
From that lefty rag The Nation, no less. Wake up libs.
The new Cold War is not a mere replica of its 40-year predecessor, which the world survived. In vital ways, it is more dangerous, more fraught with actual war, as illustrated by events in 2018, among them:
The militarization of the new Cold War intensified, with direct or proxy US-Russian military confrontations in the Baltic region, Ukraine, and Syria; the onset of another nuclear arms race with both sides in quest of more “usable” weapons; mounting, but entirely unsubstantiated, claims by influential Cold War lobbies, such as the Atlantic Council, that Moscow is contemplating an invasion of Europe; and the growing influence of Moscow’s own “hawks.” The previous Cold War was also highly militarized, but never directly on Russia’s own borders, as is this one, from the small nations of Eastern Europe to Ukraine, a process that continued to unfold in 2018.
Russiagate—allegations that President Trump is strongly influenced by or even under the sway of the Kremlin, for which there remains no actual evidence—continued to escalate as a dangerous and unprecedented factor in the new Cold War. What began as suggestions that the Kremlin had “meddled” in the 2016 US presidential election grew into mainstream insinuations, even assertions, that the Kremlin put Trump in the White House. The result has been to all-but-shackle Trump as a crisis-negotiator with Russian President Putin. Thus, for attending a July summit meeting with Putin in Helsinki—during which Trump defended the legitimacy of his own presidency—he was widely denounced by mainstream US media and politicians as having committed “treason.” And twice subsequently Trump was compelled to cancel scheduled meetings with Putin. Americans may reasonably ask whether the politicians, journalists, and organizations that assail Trump for the same kind of summit diplomacy practiced by every president since Eisenhower actually prefer trying to impeach Trump to avoiding war with Russia.
The same question can be asked of major mainstream media outlets that have virtually abandoned the reasonably balanced and fact-based reporting and commentary they practiced during the latter stages of the preceding Cold War. In 2018, for example, their non-factual, surreal allegation that “Putin’s Russia attacked American democracy” in 2016 became an orthodox dogma and the pivot of their Russiagate and new Cold War narrative. Also unlike during the preceding Cold War, they continued to exclude dissenting, alternative reporting, perspectives, and opinions. Still more, these media outlets persist in relying heavily on former intelligence chiefs as sources and commentators, even though the role of these Intel officials in the origins of the Russiagate narrative now seems clear. A striking example of media malpractice was coverage of the maritime conflict between Ukrainian and Russian gunboats on November 25, in the Kerch straits between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea. All empirical evidence available, as well as Ukrainian President Poroshenko’s desperate need to bolster his chances for reelection in March 2019, strongly indicated that this was a deliberate provocation by Kiev. But the US mainstream media portrayed it instead as yet another instance of “Putin’s aggression.” Thus was a dangerous US-Russian proxy war fundamentally misrepresented to the American public.
In large part due to such media malpractice, and despite the escalating dangers in US-Russian relations, in 2018 there continued to be no significant anti–Cold War opposition anywhere in mainstream American political life—not in Congress, the major political parties, think tanks, or on college campuses, only a very few individual dissenters. Accordingly, the policy of détente with Russia, or what Trump has repeatedly called “cooperation with Russia,” still found no significant supporters in mainstream politics, even though it was the policy of other Republican presidents, notably Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan. Trump has tried, but he has been thwarted, repeatedly again in 2018.
Meanwhile, the charge that Russia “attacked American democracy” and continues to do so might best be applied to Russiagate promoters themselves. Their allegations have undermined the America presidency as an institution and cast doubt on US elections. By criminalizing both “contacts with Russia” and proposals for “better relations,” and by threatening to weed out a capacious and nebulous body of “disinformation” in US media, they have considerably diminished the vaunted American marketplace of free speech and ideas. Also under growing assault are traditional concepts of US political which, at least based on what is known in regard to Russia, have been abused in the cases of General Michael Flynn and, in Soviet-like fashion, of Maria Butina. At worst, this young Russian woman seems to have been an undeclared (but candidly open) advocate of “better relations” and an ardent proponent of her own country. For this, something long pursued by young Americans in Russia as well, she was held for months in solitary confinement until she confessed—that is, entered a plea. And this in a nation that has long officially “promoted” democracy abroad.
Finally, while US political and media elites remained obsessed with the fictions of Russiagate—which increasingly appears to be Russiagate without Russia and instead mostly tax-fraud-gate and sex-gate—post–Soviet Russia continued its remarkable rise as a diplomatic great power, primarily, though not only, in the East, as documented recently in three highly informed publications far from and scarcely noted by the US political-media establishment. Meanwhile, Washington’s primary base of allies in world affairs, the European Union, continued its slide into self-inflicted, ever deepening crisis.
I'm not interested in reading something you pasted from the internet.
Please post your own thoughts and opinions.
Is the sand getting in your eyes? Don't have time for advice from a distinguished Russia scholar?
TruthforAmerica wrote wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I'm not interested in reading something you pasted from the internet.
Please post your own thoughts and opinions.
Is the sand getting in your eyes? Don't have time for advice from a distinguished Russia scholar?
0/10. You failed to name the supposed distinguished Russia scholar.
TruthforAmerica wrote wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I'm not interested in reading something you pasted from the internet.
Please post your own thoughts and opinions.
Is the sand getting in your eyes? Don't have time for advice from a distinguished Russia scholar?
This is a discussion board. Something you pasted from the internet is not a discussion.
A small quote from an expert will be read by me if it is in the context of your own analysis.
When I want to read expert opinions, I go to those sources.
Fat hurts wrote:
TruthforAmerica wrote wrote:
Is the sand getting in your eyes? Don't have time for advice from a distinguished Russia scholar?
This is a discussion board. Something you pasted from the internet is not a discussion.
A small quote from an expert will be read by me if it is in the context of your own analysis.
When I want to read expert opinions, I go to those sources.
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
TruthforAmerica wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
This is a discussion board. Something you pasted from the internet is not a discussion.
A small quote from an expert will be read by me if it is in the context of your own analysis.
When I want to read expert opinions, I go to those sources.
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
What kind of Russian name is Stephen F. Cohen?
Russka wrote:
TruthforAmerica wrote:
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
What kind of Russian name is Stephen F. Cohen?
Well, things are not so bad in this country yet that Jews from the South can't become fluent in Russian and spend a lifetime learning the history that is denied to most Russians. He is a world expert on the country.
TruthforAmerica wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
This is a discussion board. Something you pasted from the internet is not a discussion.
A small quote from an expert will be read by me if it is in the context of your own analysis.
When I want to read expert opinions, I go to those sources.
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
-- Cathy Young characterized Cohen's 2014 article on "Kiev's atrocities" (mentioned above) as "error-riddled" and an "embarrassing" repetition of Kremlin propaganda.
Putin’s Pal
Stephen Cohen was once considered a top Russia historian. Now he publishes odd defenses of Vladimir Putin. The Nation just published his most outrageous one yet.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/07/stephen-cohen-vladimir-putins-apologist-the-nation-just-published-the-most-outrageous-defense-of-the-russian-president.htmlAnother great day for Trump!
Stock market down another 350 points.
Walks back a promise to shut down the government over border wall funding, can't keep his word and the wall won't be built (and even if it was, we'd be paying for it, not Mexico).
Bans bump stocks, far more significant than any gun control legislation passed by Obama/Dems, despite promises to defend 2nd amendment.
Trump just keeps selling out his base, and they keep coming back for more.
evaluation wrote:
TruthforAmerica wrote:
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
-- Cathy Young characterized Cohen's 2014 article on "Kiev's atrocities" (mentioned above) as "error-riddled" and an "embarrassing" repetition of Kremlin propaganda.
Putin’s Pal
Stephen Cohen was once considered a top Russia historian. Now he publishes odd defenses of Vladimir Putin. The Nation just published his most outrageous one yet.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/07/stephen-cohen-vladimir-putins-apologist-the-nation-just-published-the-most-outrageous-defense-of-the-russian-president.html
So, Lying Gary is spouting the gospel of a Putin propagandist. Why am I not surprised?
TruthforAmerica wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
This is a discussion board. Something you pasted from the internet is not a discussion.
A small quote from an expert will be read by me if it is in the context of your own analysis.
When I want to read expert opinions, I go to those sources.
Except you don't bother to go to those sources. His name is Stephen F. Cohen
I read expert opinions every day.
What I don't do is paste them or post links to them when I want to make a point. I use my own words to express my own thoughts.
By the same token, I'm not interested in what you've read, but I might be interested in what you personally have to say.
TruthforAmerica wrote:
From that lefty rag The Nation, no less. Wake up libs.
The new Cold War is not a mere replica of its 40-year predecessor, which the world survived. In vital ways, it is more dangerous, more fraught with actual war, as illustrated by events in 2018, among them:
The militarization of the new Cold War intensified, with direct or proxy US-Russian military confrontations in the Baltic region, Ukraine, and Syria; the onset of another nuclear arms race with both sides in quest of more “usable” weapons; mounting, but entirely unsubstantiated, claims by influential Cold War lobbies, such as the Atlantic Council, that Moscow is contemplating an invasion of Europe; and the growing influence of Moscow’s own “hawks.” The previous Cold War was also highly militarized, but never directly on Russia’s own borders, as is this one, from the small nations of Eastern Europe to Ukraine, a process that continued to unfold in 2018.
Russiagate—allegations that President Trump is strongly influenced by or even under the sway of the Kremlin, for which there remains no actual evidence—continued to escalate as a dangerous and unprecedented factor in the new Cold War. What began as suggestions that the Kremlin had “meddled” in the 2016 US presidential election grew into mainstream insinuations, even assertions, that the Kremlin put Trump in the White House. The result has been to all-but-shackle Trump as a crisis-negotiator with Russian President Putin. Thus, for attending a July summit meeting with Putin in Helsinki—during which Trump defended the legitimacy of his own presidency—he was widely denounced by mainstream US media and politicians as having committed “treason.” And twice subsequently Trump was compelled to cancel scheduled meetings with Putin. Americans may reasonably ask whether the politicians, journalists, and organizations that assail Trump for the same kind of summit diplomacy practiced by every president since Eisenhower actually prefer trying to impeach Trump to avoiding war with Russia.
The same question can be asked of major mainstream media outlets that have virtually abandoned the reasonably balanced and fact-based reporting and commentary they practiced during the latter stages of the preceding Cold War. In 2018, for example, their non-factual, surreal allegation that “Putin’s Russia attacked American democracy” in 2016 became an orthodox dogma and the pivot of their Russiagate and new Cold War narrative. Also unlike during the preceding Cold War, they continued to exclude dissenting, alternative reporting, perspectives, and opinions. Still more, these media outlets persist in relying heavily on former intelligence chiefs as sources and commentators, even though the role of these Intel officials in the origins of the Russiagate narrative now seems clear. A striking example of media malpractice was coverage of the maritime conflict between Ukrainian and Russian gunboats on November 25, in the Kerch straits between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea. All empirical evidence available, as well as Ukrainian President Poroshenko’s desperate need to bolster his chances for reelection in March 2019, strongly indicated that this was a deliberate provocation by Kiev. But the US mainstream media portrayed it instead as yet another instance of “Putin’s aggression.” Thus was a dangerous US-Russian proxy war fundamentally misrepresented to the American public.
In large part due to such media malpractice, and despite the escalating dangers in US-Russian relations, in 2018 there continued to be no significant anti–Cold War opposition anywhere in mainstream American political life—not in Congress, the major political parties, think tanks, or on college campuses, only a very few individual dissenters. Accordingly, the policy of détente with Russia, or what Trump has repeatedly called “cooperation with Russia,” still found no significant supporters in mainstream politics, even though it was the policy of other Republican presidents, notably Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan. Trump has tried, but he has been thwarted, repeatedly again in 2018.
Meanwhile, the charge that Russia “attacked American democracy” and continues to do so might best be applied to Russiagate promoters themselves. Their allegations have undermined the America presidency as an institution and cast doubt on US elections. By criminalizing both “contacts with Russia” and proposals for “better relations,” and by threatening to weed out a capacious and nebulous body of “disinformation” in US media, they have considerably diminished the vaunted American marketplace of free speech and ideas. Also under growing assault are traditional concepts of US political which, at least based on what is known in regard to Russia, have been abused in the cases of General Michael Flynn and, in Soviet-like fashion, of Maria Butina. At worst, this young Russian woman seems to have been an undeclared (but candidly open) advocate of “better relations” and an ardent proponent of her own country. For this, something long pursued by young Americans in Russia as well, she was held for months in solitary confinement until she confessed—that is, entered a plea. And this in a nation that has long officially “promoted” democracy abroad.
Finally, while US political and media elites remained obsessed with the fictions of Russiagate—which increasingly appears to be Russiagate without Russia and instead mostly tax-fraud-gate and sex-gate—post–Soviet Russia continued its remarkable rise as a diplomatic great power, primarily, though not only, in the East, as documented recently in three highly informed publications far from and scarcely noted by the US political-media establishment. Meanwhile, Washington’s primary base of allies in world affairs, the European Union, continued its slide into self-inflicted, ever deepening crisis.
Stephen Cohen? Really?
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
The Criminal Justice Reform Bill was a big deal, so instead of talking about that and how it was a bipartisan success it’s overshadowed by some seemingly drunk ISIS tweet and follow on marketing video. Maybe Trump is upset because the bill wasn’t single handedly directed by him? As the Commander in Chief he can pretty much direct the military to do what he wants, even though everyone at the Pentagon and every Republican in Congress is telling him it’s a bad idea. I think he just wanted a win that was his own and to fulfill a campaign promise before he starts the run up to 2020.
It makes political and military sense to keep a few thousand troops in Iraq and Afghanistan for training purposes. Heck the Army even has new Brigades just recently created for this purpose (SFAB).
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
It makes political and military sense to keep a few thousand troops in Iraq and Afghanistan for training purposes. Heck the Army even has new Brigades just recently created for this purpose (SFAB).
Alan
Serious question : why? How many more green on blue attacks until it's the last straw? How many more tax payers dollars wasted? The Taliban has more of a presence in Afghanistan now than they did in 2001. We have literally gone backwards and the only thing we have to show for it is an unholy credit card bill and the lost lives of many. I understand wanting to be the leaders of the free world and inspiring other nations, but God himself would not be able to bring peace to that region.
Just saw this in the news :
North Korea said it wouldn’t give up its nuclear arsenal until the U.S. first removed its nuclear threat, raising fresh doubts about a breakthrough in stalled bilateral talks
lol
PIO! wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
It all begins and ends with Flynn. Why else would Trump try to get Comey to stop the investigation into Flynn. If you say Comey lied about that whats the motivation?
Trump brought this on himself.
Alan
Not having perfect insight into the motivations of Trump in trying to get Comey to stop the investigation into Flynn is extraordinarily week evidence to back up the specific claim; "It all begins and ends with Flynn."
I'm beginning to think Flagpole and his predictions are going to be another bust. No way Trump won't finish his first term, which is what HE has claimed for about 1 1/2 years now. Seacrest OUT!!!!