Sandra Vi going for record across America

Ok....why would one choose the north route? Longer and probably more mountains?

Fake Strava wrote:

Or maybe Amy Hughes, who she also supports:

Mimi Anderson shared 53.53 Marathons's live video.

This remarkable lady has under 24 hrs to go on her 7 day treadmill World Record attempt. If anyone is in the Manchester area tomorrow please pop down to the Trafford Centre at around 7am to see her set a new Guinness World Record. I believe the end of her 7 days is 8.56am tomorrow.

Go and give Amy your support, running on a Treadmill is NOT easy, especially for 7 days!

GO GO GO Amy, you can do this.

53.53 Marathons was live.

I don't know the details. Was the AH effort determined a fraud?

hmmm...wait, what? wrote:

I don't know the details. Was the AH effort determined a fraud?

Yes, Any Hughes and her boyfriend lied about how far she really ran on the treadmill and there is even video evidence showing her hanging onto the handles of the treadmill when the janitors weren't around.

Everyone agreed, however, that she is one authentic mudrunner.

Professor Armstrong wrote:

hmmm...wait, what? wrote:

I don't know the details. Was the AH effort determined a fraud?

Yes, Any Hughes and her boyfriend lied about how far she really ran on the treadmill and there is even video evidence showing her hanging onto the handles of the treadmill when the janitors weren't around.

Okay,

So here is a possibility going on, touching all these cases: a 'psychosis clouded vision'. It goes hand in hand with the extreme exercise, and positive thinking. The folks involved, are convinced in their minds that they are capable of extreme feats, that the eventual bit of 'cheating' is not even recognized as such, and/or justifiably (in their minds) overlooked. What do you think?

They are usually decent athletes, and have accomplished atypical (compared to average joe) extreme endurance physical efforts. They actually are convinced the feat is accomplished, even if, along the way, a little bit of what the normal person would see as 'cheating' happens.

We know the Mimi effort has already had a span of days where the Strava data was delayed in being uploaded (evidently due to bad signal) in certain locations. However, I think her team would have to be in on it too if there was actually cheating going on. And if there isn't, it is unfortunate such suspicion even arises due to the past transgressions of others.

Case in point, RYoung. Did he start out meaning well, but then, with sponsorship, so many people depending on him, so much positive attention, that he felt some type of justified obligation once the 'failures', 'faults' (aka 'cheating') started to snowball?

Okay, so let's bring it over to the world of the real 'runners': the 'elites', and PEDS. See any parallels? Any similarities to the 'Breaking 2' effort being hyped now?

hmmm...wait, what? wrote:

Okay, so let's bring it over to the world of the real 'runners': the 'elites', and PEDS. See any parallels? Any similarities to the 'Breaking 2' effort being hyped now?

PEDS? "But they are just 'vitamins'. They are just 'supplements'. But, but the 'ACTOVEGAN cocktail' falls in-line with 'clean sport'...and besides, I be WORLD CLASS, and good for bidness." "But, but, I'm from a poor african country, and it was the shady agents, the shady doctors."

And on and on it goes, no?

Drugs are a relatively minor issue compared to riding in an RV or just flat out telling lies like Dave Reading or Amy Hughes. With drugs, you still run all of it. I don't know why the cheaters we catch don't just do the simple thing and dope.

To be clear, I'm not accusing Mimi. I just find it odd that she would associate with these types of people. It does suggest a certain lack of judgment which could easily extend to the people on her team. Then there's also the tracking issue.

If she's doing this legitimately, I can't think of a good reason to not have the Garmin tracking that others have had. Wouldn't you want to have everything as fully documented as possible? Running a Transcon is no small undertaking and it's not as if the Garmin requires considerable effort or expense. No one outside of her team knows where she is, so no outsider can run with her or even verify that she's the one doing all the miles. Given all the cheating we've seen lately I don't think Strava alone is enough to convince me. I've looked into it more and the log files can be absolutely be edited like any data file (search Digital EPO for just one example). Adding a file a day or two later isn't a good sign and remember Rob Young used the internet connection as an excuse too.

Professor Armstrong wrote:

Drugs are a relatively minor issue compared to riding in an RV or just flat out telling lies like Dave Reading or Amy Hughes. With drugs, you still run all of it. I don't know why the cheaters we catch don't just do the simple thing and dope.

If you are talking about 'extreme endurance athletes', the answer is because: no, simply taking some dope is not the ticket to performing 'extreme endurance efforts'. Or wait a minute, is it?!? Is there some of that being thrown in a few of these efforts? Dean K's thing was the java beans. But you are probably talking about something more than just caffeine.

hmmm...wait, what? wrote:

Case in point, RYoung. Did he start out meaning well, but then, with sponsorship, so many people depending on him, so much positive attention, that he felt some type of justified obligation once the 'failures', 'faults' (aka 'cheating') started to snowball?

No, he was a fraud through and through (starting well before the Transcon) and he cheated early on in his attempt. The RV broke down on one of the first days and he somehow sprinted through 40 miles of desert to arrive at the hotel before his team. That's an exaggeration, but it was something bizarre like that. His night "runs" were ridiculous as well.

Maybe the need is there to petition (or group shame awareness, i dunno maybe through a kickstarter campaign?) to get Guinness to up there 'scrutiny', (right, kinda like the IAAF and WDA scrutinizing elites to hear pop-pop tell it) of these efforts, and to demand, at minimum, GARMIN tracking and full 'location awareness', or the effort is disqualified.

As someone else alluded to earlier in the thread, the runner should have to wear a full-time video-cam, whereby each step can be recalled... (google-glass 'Truman Show', aye?).

Hear is a brainstorming idea: the BroJo' letsrun committee gets the kickstarter campaign going with the purposes of:

(1) sponsor the group of folks to go track down Mimi to shadow her until she is exposed and drops (that is, if she actually is cheating);

(2) from exposure and results of effort (1), a rules committee is established to create 'The Official Transcon Crossing' efforts...to which all future Transcon efforts must adhere to in order to be recognized as 'OFFICIAL', and whereby, anything less than such stringency (e.g., current Guinness World Record procedures) are shamed. Stringency might require full-time videocam of the effort.

(3) This would parlay into an official 'Badwater on steroids'...developing its own annual sponsorship. A reality show of various participants that come and go would be one end-result.

hmmm...wait, what? wrote:

(3) This would parlay into an official 'Badwater on steroids'...developing its own annual sponsorship. A reality show of various participants that come and go would be one end-result.

And of course, to keep viewership up, only American-born folks can participate as the runners (aka, like the POTUS...truth!), because, after-all, it is TRANSCON of the Americas.

Sandy has done 27 miles after 6.5 hours.

That's not bad. It looks like she recovered some.

Carl 7 wrote:

Sandy has done 27 miles after 6.5 hours.

That's not bad. It looks like she recovered some.

What pace did Pete K average?